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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / October 2005

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1998 Ram 3500 cummins no power

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YVONNE THOMPSON - 20 Oct 2005 00:02 GMT
My 1998 Dodge diesel suddenly has no power. I went on a 2.200 mile road trip
pulling a 30ft fifth wheel with no problems at all, but now, three weeks
later it barely has enough power to get on the freeway with no load at all.
I have replaced the fuel filter and air filter with no results. I have
bought fuel at three different stations thinking maybe it was bad fuel but
had no results. The truck does not smoke or run hot and everything seems
normal except no power. The truck will get up to speed (I had going 90 mph)
but it takes forever. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Randy
Tom Lawrence - 20 Oct 2005 00:40 GMT
> normal except no power. The truck will get up to speed (I had going 90
> mph) but it takes forever. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

12V or 24V?  What's the fuel pressure between the filter and the injection
pump?  Have you checked for any boost leaks?
YVONNE THOMPSON - 21 Oct 2005 01:33 GMT
It is a 12v and I have checked nothing other than what I stated. I don't
know how to check the fuel pressure. If it had a boost leak wouldn't I be
able to hear it?

>> normal except no power. The truck will get up to speed (I had going 90
>> mph) but it takes forever. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 12V or 24V?  What's the fuel pressure between the filter and the injection
> pump?  Have you checked for any boost leaks?
John - 20 Oct 2005 23:37 GMT
Is the turbo still spinning? Can you hear it whining?

John
YVONNE THOMPSON - 21 Oct 2005 01:36 GMT
The turbo is not spinning but I was told that it would smoke and run hot if
the turbo was bad. It has no other problems except no power.

> Is the turbo still spinning? Can you hear it whining?
>
> John
WC - 23 Oct 2005 10:15 GMT
Assuming that the turbo is not spinning while the truck is running, the
problem is YOU NEED a TURBO. It should spin any time the truck is running.
While the truck is off, pull the breather hose off and make sure that the
turbo can spin freely, it should. There may be some in and out play. A
"little" is ok, but  more than about 1/8in is going to show wear will be an
indication that seal are in need. White smoke usually goes with this as
well. White smoke shows your burning oil.

Depending on how your truck is set up, most of your fuel may be set to come
in with the AFC. It fuels, based on the boost pressures. No pressure, no
added fuel no power.
I have my truck set up this way. It helps to limit smoke and makes smother
power.

The turbo air has two functions;
  1) provides "air" for combustion
  2) provides cooling air for the cylinders

SO, you can melt down if you have "enough" fuel without the cooling volume,
but with enough to burn the most of the fuel(means it will be most likely be
smoking out the tail pipe). Temperatures can easily reach the melting point
of the pistons(over 1500F). Regular road cruse temps are around 700-900F.
MELT DOWN does not make a sound as the truck dies.

One thing that could have "killed" your turbo, is not allowing shut down
time. From 3mins to 30seconds is all it takes to cool down the turbo before
shutdown. It depend on how you were driving just prior to shutdown. Oil will
burn and coke around 400F. IF you work the truck and quickly shut it down,
the EGT(Exhaust Gas Temperature) could easily be in the 600F range. Oil
would coke and clog the oil line that would lubercate the turbo. This would
at some time kill the turbo.

MY 2cents, if your turbo is fried from the lack of lube as described above.
Get a hybrid HX35/40 turbo which will provide more air quicker than your
HX-35. Then get on the forums and start on the path to the dark side
(bombing)<learning to add hp to your truck>

IF your going to keep the truck, get some gauges(EGT and Boost Pressure) at
the least. You can make 400hp, easy without harming mpg. Many times the
upgrades will add up to 2mpg.

Their are a couple of wonderful forums;
http://www.dieselram.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/

> The turbo is not spinning but I was told that it would smoke and run hot if
> the turbo was bad. It has no other problems except no power.
>
> > Is the turbo still spinning? Can you hear it whining?
> >
> > John
 
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