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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2005Home heating oil
Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul tax issues is there really any reason I can't get away with this? $2.39 vs. $3.xx plus makes this pretty tempting. > Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul tax > issues is there really any reason I can't get away with this? $2.39 vs. $3.xx > plus makes this pretty tempting. Depends on how hungry your state is for pothole tax money...they certainly know how tempting it is and how to check for dye. Rick >> Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the >> obvioul tax [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Rick Yes you do not want to get cuaght because it will cost you many, many times more than the money you saved. Heating oil glows under a black light.  Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com >> Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the >> obvioul tax issues is there really any reason I can't get away with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rick Just beware some home oil suppliers will contact you if your consumption jumps, better have a good reason when the call :-) ron > Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul > tax > issues is there really any reason I can't get away with this? $2.39 vs. > $3.xx > plus makes this pretty tempting. Yes, but if you get caught by the tax Nazis you will be in deep do-do. Also, there is a dye in the fuel used for auto consumption that is how they tell it apart. If you decide to do so put a pre-filter with a water separator on the tank it will save you some head aches. SignatureCoasty Remove the SPOOGE to reply The dye is in the heating oil. It glows under UV light and just a few gallons of it in your tank will make the whole tank glow >>Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul >>tax [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > tell it apart. If you decide to do so put a pre-filter with a water > separator on the tank it will save you some head aches. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com > Yes, but if you get caught by the tax Nazis you will be in deep do-do. > Also, there is a dye in the fuel used for auto consumption that is how they > tell it apart. If you decide to do so put a pre-filter with a water > separator on the tank it will save you some head aches. Why would the government dye "the fuel used for auto consumption," do you think they want to bust those who use -on- road fuel in an -off- road application? >>Yes, but if you get caught by the tax Nazis you will be in deep do-do. >>Also, there is a dye in the fuel used for auto consumption that is how they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > consumption," do you think they want to bust those who use -on- > road fuel in an -off- road application? It is dyed when it is sold as home heating oil so it is marked as a non road fuel (no road tax) for those trying to get around the tax. Motor fuel is not dyed. Signature----------------- www.thesnoman.com Yep, Used to be the other way around. The road fuel was dyed red to show it had the federal road tax paid on it while No2 for the home was clear (but had a UV additive in it). The DOT can pull over ANY commercial registered vehicle in the US and test the fuel. They can also do spot checks of passenger vehicles to test fuel for dyes. IF your caught using ANY off road fuel in a road vehicle the fine is VERY high. From the DOT. Any owner who is found with dyed fuel in his/her vehicle is subject to a penalty of $1,000 or $10 per gallon of dyed fuel involved, whichever is greater. The penalty increases with additional violations, the Department can also seize both the contraband fuel and vehicles used in fuel tax evasion. Jail time is also a possibility. SignatureSteve Williams > >>Yes, but if you get caught by the tax Nazis you will be in deep do-do. > >>Also, there is a dye in the fuel used for auto consumption that is how they [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > road fuel (no road tax) for those trying to get around the tax. Motor > fuel is not dyed. > >>Yes, but if you get caught by the tax Nazis you will be in deep do-do. > >>Also, there is a dye in the fuel used for auto consumption that is how they [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > road fuel (no road tax) for those trying to get around the tax. Motor > fuel is not dyed. Where do I suggest otherwise? Luckily, the constitution protects you. Even the DOT is not above the constitution. They can not seize and search your property regardless of where it is. Unless of course, they have probable cause, like someone asking ....."Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul tax issues is there really any reason I can't get away with this?"..... on a public newsgroup. But then what are chances they might just happen to read it? It isn't like they would use google to do a search of key words tax cheats might use. > Luckily, the constitution protects you. Even the DOT is not above the > constitution. They can not seize and search your property regardless of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like they would use google to do a search of key words tax cheats might > use. If someone is that hard up to drive their oil burner that they want to try to cheat with heating oil, they need to sell it and get a gas truck. You supplier can get in trouble too if he sells you heating oil that is used as motor fuel. It is VERY easy to determine is heating oil is in tank, it takes but a few seconds. ----------------- www.thesnoman.com >If someone is that hard up to drive their oil burner that they want to >try to cheat with heating oil, they need to sell it and get a gas truck. >You supplier can get in trouble too if he sells you heating oil that is >used as motor fuel. It is VERY easy to determine is heating oil is in >tank, it takes but a few seconds. Your chances of getting caught are in direct proportion to the number of people who know (or suspect) that you're doing it. It's been said that two people can keep a secret as long as one of them is dead. This is the exact same way many satellite and cable TV pirates got caught. I certainly wouldn't mention it to anyone, not even your spouse. Your home heating oil supplier -WILL- notice the markedly increased consumption. Suddenly 2 people know. See above about keeping a secret. IMO the risk and penalty for getting caught far outweighs any possible benefit. The crime is called motorfuel tax fraud and it's serious. Well, I called DOT and EPA. LOL >>If someone is that hard up to drive their oil burner that they want to >>try to cheat with heating oil, they need to sell it and get a gas truck. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > IMO the risk and penalty for getting caught far outweighs any possible > benefit. The crime is called motorfuel tax fraud and it's serious. > Luckily, the constitution protects you. Even the DOT is not above the > constitution. They can not seize and search your property regardless of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like they would use google to do a search of key words tax cheats might > use. Actually they can just pull over any commercial registered vehicle for a safety inspection when they want. Those inspections are part of their job. IF your caught with illegal fuel they can seize the vehicle. It is a criminal violation of the law. Ask Al Capone about what tax evasion can get you. >>Luckily, the constitution protects you. Even the DOT is not above the >>constitution. They can not seize and search your property regardless [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- In Ontario, at certain times of the year, ie hunting season, they stop everyone,gas, diesel, private, commercial, doesn't matter. First, the OPP and the Revenue guys physically check your fuel, farmers have access to cheaper marked gas (not for road use). They nailed the guy in front of me for using furnace oil. Then the wildlife folks take pokes at the deer or moose you shot, tags, where, etc. etc. It can get expensive if you are caught. OPP and the Rev guys are bad enough, but the wildlife dudes take everything. Just put in a hiddentank, like under a tool box or something. Put in a hidden switch and keep normal fuel in the truck tank, and home fuel in the hidden tank. Put some of your own die in it and call it your bio diesel or other home maded fuel. Your entitled to something like 600 gallons of home made per year without issue.. This way, the main tank is not contaminated. IF they find the aux tank, their is some PLASABLE denial. Since your aux tank will be used mainly around town. Do some research on dyes and make sure that the color you select might have some...UV to it..and...let me know :) Us in the Southern States, don't have home oil..so we have to work on making our own bio... >Can I use regular home heating oil in my diesel? Aside from the obvioul tax >issues is there really any reason I can't get away with this? $2.39 vs. $3.xx >plus makes this pretty tempting. I don't know the price of K-1 but it will work if you add a qt of oil to every 5 gallons. beekeep Isn't K-1 kerosene?? |
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