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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2005

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Time for a new Heater Core - how much?

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RamMan@dodgecity.cc - 02 Nov 2005 02:56 GMT
It figures, doesn't it? ABout the time I get the P0307 misfire problem
under control something else crops up.

Guessing, I'd say I have a bad heater core.

Symptoms: strong odor of antifreeze fumes inside the cab when the T-stat
opens up. Also windows fog up on the inside and the defroster only makes
it worse.

How big a job is this to tackle yourself? What's involved?

About what's the going rate to have this repair (replaced) at a dealer or
independent shop?

Recommendations & ideas welcome.
Thanks!!
CigarSki - 03 Nov 2005 00:06 GMT
Not sure how much difference there is between a Ram and Dakota core
replacement, but mine just cost me 800 dollars for my dak. Dealer did the
work. If you take it to the dealer, BEWARE!

When I got it home I smelled antifreeze outside of the truck, I figured that
the "tech" spilled some while filling it back up. The entire engine
compartment was covered in antifreeze, both fenders had a nice coating of it
also. Don't dealerships own a friggin hose?!

The front section of the center console was loose not secured back down. The
rear section was loose. Upon further checking, the metal clips for the front
section were missing and rather than remove the mounting screws, it looked
like he just pulled up on it and broke the plastic out around the screws.
Out of six screws that hold down the rear portion, one was missing, two were
stripped out and loose, the final two were barely hand tight. I found the
clips on the floor and replaced them. Fixed everthing else. I'm going to go
over tomorrow evening and bitch about it to the service guy. Not sure if it
will do any good though.

Wayne - 2000 Dak QC 4x4.
TBone - 03 Nov 2005 00:39 GMT
You should not have fixed it first and don't just yell at the guy or he will
do nothing for you.

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> Not sure how much difference there is between a Ram and Dakota core
> replacement, but mine just cost me 800 dollars for my dak. Dealer did the
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> Wayne - 2000 Dak QC 4x4.
RamMan@dodgecity.cc - 03 Nov 2005 02:48 GMT
>You should not have fixed it first and don't just yell at the guy or he will
>do nothing for you.

I agree.
If there's a problem with any job ever, take it back and show the dealer
why you're unhappy. But fix it yourself first then bitch and you come off
as a crank customer and it's only your word against theirs.

With A/C the $800 for R&R of the heater core seems to be about the going
rate; there's a ton of labor time involved due to having to R&R almost the
entire dash. The core itself is around $200, then there's a charge for
replacing the refrigerant. Even with the right tools and know-how I'm
finding out it's easily a 5½ to 6 hr job.

By butchering the dash they can save about an hour and a half but still
bill you for the std. flat rate charge. That way the dealership makes more
and so does the line tech because the sooner they get yours done the
sooner they can go to work on gouging someone else.

Over the years I have managed to acquire an immense distaste for
dealerships for this very reason. Once out of warranty it has to be
something very specialized and uniquely compelling for me to ever go back
to the dealer. Chryco, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Fiat, etc., yes, even Lexus;
they're all the same. Once it's out of warranty you're like a tender young
lamb going to visit the big bad wolf. The damn service writers are all on
the take. The more unnecessary services they can sell you to embellish the
job, the greater their commission.

Sad to say but there's also no shortage of shoddy workmanship, even at
dealerships. At currently prevailing labor rates it's inexcusable. As long
as you tolerate it they will not change.
CigarSki - 03 Nov 2005 03:09 GMT
> You should not have fixed it first and don't just yell at the guy or he
> will
> do nothing for you.

Point taken on the yelling thing :)

Why did I fix it myself? Need the truck, it's getting just a little chilly
to ride the cycle in to work. I can do the job better than their so call
"techs". Go to school 3 nights a week (to make me more skilled and valuable
in my trade), my time is valuable to me. I figure that they screwed it up
the first time around and they'll only end up making it worse.

It's truly a shame that so many take so little pride in their work these
days.
 
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