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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2005

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please help - van stalls A LOT

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whatserface - 08 Nov 2005 02:34 GMT
Would greatly apreciate any advice on this.

My work van (2002 Dodge Ram Van 1500 - 80k miles) is giving me a lot of
trouble. In the morning when I start it up, it runs perfectly fine for
about 15 minutes. Then it abruptly starts stalling. Once it starts
stalling, it stalls at almost every red light. If I'm in heavy traffic
where a lot of stop and go is required, it'll stall many times. In a
parking lot, I sometimes have to restart the van a few times to get in and
out of a parking space. Right before it stalls, I hear a clicking noise
down towards the left side of the dash. If I'm driving above 30mph or so,
the van seems to jerk as if it was trying to stall, and the oil level
guage drops all the way to the left as if the van was shut off. I hear a
clicking noise down toward the left side of the dash when this happens,
too. It always starts right back up - usually the oil guage returns to
normal, and sometimes it remains buried as if the van was shut off - even
though the van runs fine and does not overheat.

I took it to a mechanic who charged me $100 to hook it up to some sort of
sensor, only to tell me that there were no faulty codes detected, but he
thought it might be the ignition switch - which he replaced. However, the
problem continues. So, I stopped by the Dodge dealership and they said
that the sensors they use there are much more hi-tech and that it would
definitely pinpoint the problem, but it's going to cost me $150.

Looking under the hood, I placed my fingers on the relays by the battery
as someone started the van. As it stalled, I noticed 2 things: 1. The
engine seems to slow down a little right before it stalls...... 2. The
relay under one of my fingers (ASD) clicks right before and right after it
stalls. Could a faulty ASD Relay be the cause of this?

I know I should just take it to a mechanic and get it fixed, but I really
don't have the money for it right now. So, please... any advice at all.

Thanks.
Tom Lawrence - 08 Nov 2005 04:30 GMT
> engine seems to slow down a little right before it stalls...... 2. The
> relay under one of my fingers (ASD) clicks right before and right after it
> stalls. Could a faulty ASD Relay be the cause of this?

It could - as the ASD relay supplies power to the PCM, which runs the
engine.  Try swapping it with another relay - they're all the same
(actually, you may have two types of relays in there, but the difference
will be obvious.  All the relays of the same physical size are
interchangeable with each other)

I suspect you'll find you have the same problem after swapping the relays,
but it's certainly worth it to try.
whatserface - 08 Nov 2005 22:56 GMT
Thanks. I'll give that a shot. Is there any other things that might cause
these problems that someone with little or no automotive knowledge (such
as myself) would be able to easily repair?
Todd - 12 Nov 2005 17:50 GMT
You could try cleaning the Idle Air Control valve, but you did say it
surged at 30mph (meaning, at 30, you are no longer relying on the IAC).
Have you ever changed the fuel filter? I don't think a dirty filter
would cause an idle problem, but if it's never been done in 80k miles,
your overdo for the change anyway. Also, check the air filter while
your at it, a clogged or extremely dirty air filter is also not going
to help things. Other things I would check would be vacuum leaks. Look
for any hoses that may have come disconnected, make sure your PCV valve
is good (pull it out and give it a shake, you should hear and feel it
rattle). Space is limited on a van, but I've always had good luck
checking manifold gasket leaks using carb cleaner spray. While the
enging is running, spray the carb cleaner at the junctions of the
manifold to the cylinder head (spray enough to make it wet). If the
gasket is leaking, you should hear the idle pick up temporarily as the
fluid is drawn through the leak. Also spray around the throttle body
base and along the vacuum hoses (to check for cracks) in the same
manner. Finally, just because there aren't any trouble codes thrown
doesn't mean nothing is wrong. A sensor can still go bad and misread,
but if it does so within "normal specs" the computer won't know it's a
problem (like a temp sensor stuck on a normal reading). Hope some of
this helps and good luck!
-Todd
 
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