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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2005

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Cummins Engine Coolant - Special Coolant or Marketing tactic????

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nojodas67 - 27 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
I am about to flush the radiator in my Ram 2500 with Cummins engine.  The
bottle cap says "use only special coolant".  What could be so special
about this coolant; afterall, it's a cast iron block and head engine.  GM
now has a lawsuit against their "Special" coolant; experts claim it ruined
their engines.  
Any thought?

John
Bob M - 27 Nov 2005 16:48 GMT
> I am about to flush the radiator in my Ram 2500 with Cummins engine.  The
> bottle cap says "use only special coolant".  What could be so special
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> John

 Not sure about the Cummins but I just wanted to say that my elderly
parents just had to spend $3600 to put a new engine in their Oldsmobile.
Mechanic said the Dexcool had ruined the engine. Gigantic Mistake (GM)
won't cover a penny of it. Said it's not their problem. I would be
really interested in any class action lawsuit against GM.

Bob
TheSnoMan - 27 Nov 2005 16:56 GMT
>> I am about to flush the radiator in my Ram 2500 with Cummins engine.  The
>> bottle cap says "use only special coolant".  What could be so special
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> Bob

It was not really the dexicools fault per say, it is GM's. The problem
lies in the increasing presence of aluminun with the cart iron in the
engine assembly which increase reactivety with water in coolant. A 50/50
mixture will not cut it and GM came up with Dexi to try to stay with
50/50 to save money on coolant on production line. I have a few vehicles
that have had dexi in them for over 5 years now and they are all fine
and coolant and overflow tanks are a clean as day one but they are also
running 60 to 70 percent dexi too. Even Mazada recognized the problem
when they came out with the rotary engine long ago and called for a
90/10 mex (anitfreeze to water) in their early rotary engines that had a
lot of aluminum in them.

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nojodas67 - 27 Nov 2005 18:05 GMT
Actually, there is a class action lawsuit pending against GM for Dex-cool,
Alleging severe engine problems.  Do a google search on the issue and
you'll find lots of info on it.  But of course, the lawyers will get the
bulk of the settlement millions, and each consumer will probably just get
a replacement bottle of antifreeze.  
Hope this helps.
John Kunkel - 28 Nov 2005 18:57 GMT
>I am about to flush the radiator in my Ram 2500 with Cummins engine.  The
> bottle cap says "use only special coolant".  What could be so special
> about this coolant; afterall, it's a cast iron block and head engine.

Cummins engines with removable liners tend to suffer from cavitation
corrosion, these engines require a special coolant additive but the 5.9L
doesn't have removable liners and doesn't seem to suffer that problem so any
good quality antifreeze should work.

More on the subject:

http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/cooling-sys/antifreeze.htm
 
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