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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2006

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Battery Draining on 99 Durango 5.2l SLT

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Jason - 10 Jan 2006 01:05 GMT
I'm stumped...

I've taken out my alternator and had it tested - it's fine.
I've replaced my battery (which was old and apparently only at 45%) - so the
new one should be fine...

But the new battery (Saturday) has drained, and I've only done like 100Km
(60 miles).

It seems like the alternator isn't charging the battery while I'm driving.
Is my fan belt loose? I didn't see where I could tighten the bloody thing.

Here's some work that has been done on it since December:

1. Replaced heater core.
2. New ball joints.
3. Fixed left light wires - my high beam was out, but it wasn't the light
itself - some wires were corroded.

I've cleaned all of the leads in/around the battery, so they're clean.

Can anyone help??

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miles - 10 Jan 2006 02:22 GMT
It is very possible you have a bad battery cable or connection on either
end.  Often corrosion creeps down under the insulation eroding the
cable.  Since its under the insulation its not easy to detect.

Heres a simple quick test you can do.  Take a volt meter and measure the
battery voltage.  Now start the engine and measure again.  Should be a
bit higher, typically 14v with engine running.  Next, turn the
headlights on and measure again.  If the alternator is working the
voltage should not drop when the headlights are turned on.  If the
alternator is not charging then the voltage will drop some.

It's also quite possible your new batter is also bad.  It happens.

> I'm stumped...
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> Can anyone help??
TBone - 10 Jan 2006 15:05 GMT
> I'm stumped...
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> Can anyone help??

You need to be a little more clear on how the new battery died.  You did
give a mileage but in relation to what?  Did you put it in and drive right
away and it died or did you put it in and drove that far and the next day it
was dead or did you put it in and a few days later took that drive and it
died after 100Km?  You did mention a wiring problem due to corrosion and you
could have a similar one on the charging side.  Do you have a volt meter?
If not I would suggest you get one as the low cost one are quite cheap
anymore.  If you have one, check for voltage (with the battery connected) on
the alternator output terminal (engine not running).  You should be getting
battery voltage here and if not, then you have a failed cable or blown
fusible link.  If you have voltage here, start the truck and measure it
again.  It should now be higher, around 14.5 volts and if so, measure the
voltage at the battery.  It should be the same at the battery or within
1/10th of a volt difference.  If it is lower than that, you have a corroded
connection from the alternator to the battery.  If the voltage on the
alternator output is still at battery voltage (12V) with the engine running,
your alternator is not charging which could be a problem in the regulation
side like a bad field wire or a computer failure.  As a final test if
everything else checks out is to put a load on the system (headlights on)
and check the voltages at those two points again.  If the voltage is now
different between these two points then again, you have a corroded
connection between the alt and the battery.  If everything checks out ok, it
looks like you might have something that is now constantly drawing current.
Post back your results form your checks and we can go forward from there.

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Tom Lawrence - 10 Jan 2006 20:20 GMT
> You need to be a little more clear on how the new battery died.  You did
> give a mileage but in relation to what?  Did you put it in and drive right
> away and it died or did you put it in and drove that far and the next day
> it
> was dead or did you put it in and a few days later took that drive and it
> died after 100Km?

Sucks when people don't give you all the information, doesn't it?  :)
Jason - 11 Jan 2006 02:33 GMT
>> You need to be a little more clear on how the new battery died.  You did
>> give a mileage but in relation to what?  Did you put it in and drive
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>
> Sucks when people don't give you all the information, doesn't it?  :)

Well, when you're grasping at straws and don't know what information to give
in the first place, what can you do? ;-) Thanks for the insightful comment
though...
Jason - 11 Jan 2006 02:38 GMT
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> You need to be a little more clear on how the new battery died.  You did
> give a mileage but in relation to what?  Did you put it in and drive right
> away and it died or did you put it in and drove that far and the next day
> it
> was dead or did you put it in and a few days later took that drive and it
> died after 100Km?

Put the new battery in, did a day of normal driving around town, thought all
was swell, then the next day noticed (based on reading the dash gauge) that
it appeared to be draining. Coming home last night it was near 8V and the
'check gauge' light was on. I parked it in the garage overnight and checked
it in the morning by starting it, it immediately went up to 14V (again, by
the gauge - I don't have, but will purchase tomorrow, a volt reader). I
drove it today (had to get the wife to work), and everything seemed fine -
it wasn't draining. I then turned the lights on, and noticed an appreciable
difference immediately - the gauge dipped to about 11-12V. I turned the
lights off and it stopped. I also had the radio and heater off.

>You did mention a wiring problem due to corrosion and you
> could have a similar one on the charging side.

The corrosion was right beside where the battery is housed - so you're
probably right. I'll look again tomorrow.

>Do you have a volt meter?
> If not I would suggest you get one as the low cost one are quite cheap
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> current.
> Post back your results form your checks and we can go forward from there.

I appreciate the help very much! I'll get the voltmetre tomorrow and report
back how I did!

Jason
Joe Brophy - 12 Jan 2006 04:42 GMT
>> I'm stumped...
>>
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>looks like you might have something that is now constantly drawing current.
>Post back your results form your checks and we can go forward from there.

When you indicate that the rig charging or discharging do you mean the
battery is totall dead and won't run the vehicle, or are you watching
the voltage being measured by the in-dash voltmeter changing from 13+
volts to something less than 12 volts??  If your serpentine belt is
original or has any visible cracks on the ribbed side of the belt, it
likely is reaching the end of its useful life and should be replaced.
There is no actual "adjustmet" for it however with this vehicle it is
advisable to also replace the spring tensioner at the same time.  Any
belt squealing heard is also a telltale sign.  My '99 would squeal
when cold sometimes and on occaision when turning the steering close
to its limit when cold.  Put on a new gates belt and a new tensioiner
and it has been fine since (approx 25k miles ago).  Does the battery
retain a charge any better if you disconnect the negative lead when
you are not using the rig?  If you haven't tried it, might provide
additional insight.  Also, if there is something continuiously
"draining" juice from the battery regardless if you are driving it or
not, with the battery disconnected try measuring the "resistance" in
ohms between the two disconnected leads in the vehicle using your
trusty "volt"meter which is usually referring to a "multimeter"  Radio
shack or harbor freight have meters that will do the job for less than
15$, sometimes less than 5$ on sale.  If something is "loading" the
battery you will read a fairly low resistance on the "ohms" scale of
your meter.  If it is normal, you should read almost nothing, an "open
circuit" with no way to draw amps from the battery.  Some things to
checck out anyway.  good luck, regards, Joe.
 
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