> Hello,
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> Mike C
I have a 05 2500 quad cab 4x4 with auto and 4:11's. I have yet to see 20mpg.
City 15, highway 17maybe 18 if I drive very gently. I find it a little odd
that you would be worrying about fuel mileage. It is a huge truck with the
aero of a brick and will probably cost in excess of 40K.
Imho, if fuel is a worry you probably shouldn't be buying a truck anyway.
Roy
MikeC - 23 Jan 2006 19:01 GMT
>> Hello,
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> Roy
Thank you Roy for your input. It is nice to have some actual fuel
consumption numbers, it makes a big difference in the overall operating
cost.
The intial cost of the vehicle is not so much of a concern as it is to
operate it (fuel, insurance, servicing, maintenance). Trucks are all I've
driven the last 18 years, and I've noticed a drastic increase over the years
to own and operate one. So the price of fuel, and the amount the truck
consumes, is a factor. If the numbers warrant the extra initial cost of the
Cummins, then I will be more than happy to make a sound purchase on both a
financial and emotional level.
Thanks again for your help.
Mike C
Advocate - 24 Jan 2006 05:27 GMT
> The intial cost of the vehicle is not so much of a concern as it is to
> operate it (fuel, insurance, servicing, maintenance). Trucks are all I've
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> cost of the Cummins, then I will be more than happy to make a sound
> purchase on both a financial and emotional level.
I think you have misunderstood what some of the posters are telling you...
You haven't stated your intended use for this pickup. If you really need the
incredible power of the Cummins, you wouldn't ask what kind of mileage they
get for the simple reason that it wouldn't make a difference.
Diesels are expensive to purchase, expensive to operate and expensive to
repair. That's the minus side. On the plus side, if you need to pull
something, it will pull the house off of a foundation (exageration).
If you aren't pulling a big 5th wheel trailer or a stock trailer, you
probably shouldn't go the diesel route.
Tom Lawrence - 24 Jan 2006 06:16 GMT
> Diesels are expensive to purchase, expensive to operate and expensive to
> repair.
I've got to disagree there. Expensive to purchase? Yes - about a 10-12%
premium on the purchase price. Expensive to operate? Compared to what?
The only other choice is the 5.7L Hemi. It's been discussed here several
times - the diesel is less money per mile to operate, and that's factoring
in all maintenance as well. They're even less expensive to operate when
towing than when running empty, because of the greater gap in fuel economy.
As for repair, I can see that... but remember that the diesel is warranted
for 3x the mileage of the Hemi, so repair costs aren't even an issue until
you hit 100,000 miles.
> The dealer tells me that he has customers that report up to 30MPG with
> their trucks on the highway.
He is absolutely flat-out lying to you. The ONLY way you're going to see
30MPG is to get up to 70MPH or so, going downhill, and reset the overhead
computer.
Typical mileage ranges from 15-19 in mixed driving, 18-22 highway, and 13-16
towing.
MikeC - 23 Jan 2006 18:28 GMT
>> The dealer tells me that he has customers that report up to 30MPG with
>> their trucks on the highway.
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> Typical mileage ranges from 15-19 in mixed driving, 18-22 highway, and
> 13-16 towing.
Thank you Tom, for your response. In order for me to do a proper vehicle
cost analysis, I need real world numbers. As well, it confirms my belief
that the dealer was grossly exagerating the efficiency. Which in turn,
makes me question his potential sale.
Much appreciated.
Mike C
Christopher Thompson - 23 Jan 2006 18:41 GMT
right along with what tom said has been my personal experiance too.
ive got a 05 6 speed i get 19 reliably to and from work. 55-60 mph on 2 lane
highway. mileage seems to go down over 70 mph on interstate so i hang the
right lane round 65 most of the time.

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05 CTD
99 Durango
> > The dealer tells me that he has customers that report up to 30MPG with
> > their trucks on the highway.
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> Typical mileage ranges from 15-19 in mixed driving, 18-22 highway, and 13-16
> towing.
Big Al - 24 Jan 2006 17:11 GMT
> > The dealer tells me that he has customers that report up to 30MPG with
> > their trucks on the highway.
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> Typical mileage ranges from 15-19 in mixed driving, 18-22 highway, and 13-16
> towing.
My 04.5 is getting 13-15 on the highway. It's a standard cab 4X4.
Al
Tom Lawrence - 25 Jan 2006 01:10 GMT
> My 04.5 is getting 13-15 on the highway. It's a standard cab 4X4.
Are you driving at 80MPH?
Big Al - 25 Jan 2006 05:05 GMT
> > My 04.5 is getting 13-15 on the highway. It's a standard cab 4X4.
>
> Are you driving at 80MPH?
Sometimes:)
Al
You will find several threads on the TDR addressing this issue over and over
again. Expect about 15-17 depending upon how you drive.
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/