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Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if you get the Cummins engine. So on a truck with the msrp over $54K the front end is so marginal that it can't handle a snow plow? That will cost DC some customers. I know my friend is going looking at Ford and I don't blame him. Roy And people can't understand why I like my old vehicles . . . . I believe the used value will take a jump on the older trucks now. Budd > Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn > disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Roy > And people can't understand why I like my old vehicles . . . . Older vehicles are okay to a point. This Mega Cab deal has gotta be a design flaw. Roy > I believe the used value will take a jump on the older trucks now. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Roy Yep, they designed it to be an urban wannabe "truck" instead of a TRUCK, like that old D-150. Budd >> And people can't understand why I like my old vehicles . . . . > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> >>> Roy Are you kidding me? What is it that prevents a plow from being mounted? I was actually thinking this would be my next truck....but I require plow mounting.  Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) Ice Angels > Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn > disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Roy I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a family or large group around with the ability to tow a heavy trailer and do it in reasonable comfort. I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the limits of the front end components. It is probably using the same front end as the crew cab to save money. I guess that my question would be why would you want to use a truck with such a large cab to plow snow? Is the extended cab model still available? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > Are you kidding me? What is it that prevents a plow from > being mounted? I was actually thinking this would be my next [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Roy > I guess that my question would be why would you > want to use a truck with such a large cab to plow snow? To be able to carry your crew to sites with one vehicle. Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) Ice Angels >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this > vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > >> > Roy >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this > vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a > family or large group around with the ability to tow a heavy trailer and > do > it in reasonable comfort. Kinda like a large quad cab or crew cab. I don't see where Mega Cab suggests not intended for plowing with a Cummins but it is okay with a gas engine. If that front end is that close to it's limits... we are talking about a $59K truck. > I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by > itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the limits > of > the front end components. It is probably using the same front end as the > crew cab to save money. You can plow with a crew cab > I guess that my question would be why would you > want to use a truck with such a large cab to plow snow? To a contractor a truck is a tool, like a hammer or saw. If it is a 4X4 then it better be able to plow. > Is the extended cab > model still available? You mean a quad cab? Yes, with a cummins and plow. >> Are you kidding me? What is it that prevents a plow from >> being mounted? I was actually thinking this would be my next [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > >> > Roy > >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this > > vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that front end is that close to it's limits... we are talking about a $59K > truck. This is nothing unusual for DC to do. My 97 with a 5 speed has less towing capacity than the automatic of the same series and the 360 was not available with the 5 speed because the NV3500 simply was not up to the additional torque. They could have increased the spec for the NV3500 to handle it without limitations or just used a NV4500 but the NV3500 was already being used in the Dakota and costs less $$$$$ than the NV4500 and would work in the 1500 with limitations so that's what they did. It appears that they have since increased the spec but when I bought mine..... As for the term Mega, to me that sounds more like a luxury version of a crew cab and who plows with a luxury vehicle? Of course I don't plow and this is only my personal view on the matter. > > I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by > > itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the limits [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You can plow with a crew cab But does the crew cab weigh less? This could be a re-use of parts issue like the trans in my truck. With the rising cost of fuel, they might not want to invest more into this model than absolutely necessary (different front end components) until they get an idea of demand and then will address these issues if they see it as profitable to do so or to even keep the model at all and the crew cab components were probably not designed to carry that increased weight. > > I guess that my question would be why would you > > want to use a truck with such a large cab to plow snow? > > To a contractor a truck is a tool, like a hammer or saw. If it is a 4X4 then > it better be able to plow. While true, there are different types of hammers and saws and each one has it's intended use and are not all completely interchangable. I don't know how well my 4X4 (1500) would hold up plowing? Does the cab size have much of an effect on the ability to plow with the vehicle such as manuvering and blind spots? > > Is the extended cab > > model still available? > > You mean a quad cab? Yes, with a cummins and plow. I was actually talking about the one with the half sized back doors but even here, it seems that they still have a vehicle that can hold 5 people and still plow. I haven't seen this new model yet, does the mega-cab actually hold more people than the crew cab or does it just have more room for the same number of passengers (luxury version)? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> > Is the extended cab >> > model still available? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I was actually talking about the one with the half sized back doors but > even The model with the half-sized rear doors was called a Quad Cab. Starting in '03 (or '02 for the 1500's), that body style was discontinued, and the new "Quad Cab" was the four-door, all-open-the-same-way model. > still plow. I haven't seen this new model yet, does the mega-cab actually > hold more people than the crew cab or does it just have more room for the > same number of passengers (luxury version)? More room. It's the same frame as the Quad-Cab Longbed model. They stretched the cab 20", and only offer it with a short bed, thereby keeping the same 160" wheelbase. So, Dodge now has three cab choices, and two bed choices, for a total of five body configurations: Regular cab (SB/LB), Quad Cab (SB/LB), and Mega Cab (SB only). > >> > Is the extended cab > >> > model still available? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > '03 (or '02 for the 1500's), that body style was discontinued, and the new > "Quad Cab" was the four-door, all-open-the-same-way model. Ok, thanks Tom. I was going by what Ford and GM seem to be doing. My buddy has a F350 extended cab which has the half sized doors in back and IIRC, they also make a crew cab that has full sized rear doors. I thought Dodge was doing the same thing. I have no need for an extended or crew cab so I don't pay much attention to them. > > still plow. I haven't seen this new model yet, does the mega-cab actually > > hold more people than the crew cab or does it just have more room for the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stretched the cab 20", and only offer it with a short bed, thereby keeping > the same 160" wheelbase. This goes along the line I was saying to Roy. It looks like this mega-cab is set up as their luxury pickup, not a work truck. http://www.dodge.com/autoshow/news/news_megacab.html When you read the description in here, it is obvious where this truck is targeted and althouhg it is still capable of doing work when needed, it is more geared to family and comfort. > So, Dodge now has three cab choices, and two bed choices, for a total of > five body configurations: Regular cab (SB/LB), Quad Cab (SB/LB), and Mega > Cab (SB only). IOW, a work truck, a work truck / family hauler, and a luxury car that can work. I bet the main reason the diesel is offered in this model is to be able to offer a power plant that can do better than 10 MPG, LOL. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > they also make a crew cab that has full sized rear doors. I thought Dodge > was doing the same thing. Don't I wish.... I've been wanting a real crew cab for about 6 years now... but I've got this contract with DC that locks me in :) >> >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this >> > vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > plows with a luxury vehicle? Of course I don't plow and this is only my > personal view on the matter. The deal imo is simply this. The Mega Cab is a truck who's front end can't stand up to a plow with a Cummins engine that weigh about 3-4hundred pounds more than the gas engine. That 3 -4 hundred pounds makes the difference. That they would build a truck that is that shakey is f.cked up. This is their top of the line truck!! >> > I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by >> > itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that > increased weight. >> > I guess that my question would be why would you >> > want to use a truck with such a large cab to plow snow? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and > blind spots? Most plowing is done looking ahead. Blind spots go with the game. Snow can cause blind spots from one minute to the next. Wheel base has to do with manuvering not cab size. > >> >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that this > >> > vehicle was not intended for plowing, more in line with transporting a [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > That they would build a truck that is that shakey is f.cked up. This is > their top of the line truck!! LOL, you are not getting an argument out of me as I agree with you. I simply gave a possible reason as to why it couldn't do it, not that it was a good one or a valid design decision. BTW, did you see the new Challenger? If they actually bring this to the market looking the way it does now even with the fake Hemi and a 5 or 6 speed, there will be one in my garage ;-) > >> > I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by > >> > itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > cause blind spots from one minute to the next. Wheel base has to do with > manuvering not cab size. Fair enough. I don't think I would use such an expensive vehicle to push snow around when far less expensive models could do it just as well if not better but as I said before, that's just my personal choice. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> >I see no problem with this at all. Just by its name suggests that > this [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > If they actually bring this to the market looking the way it does now even > with the fake Hemi and a 5 or 6 speed, there will be one in my garage ;-) It is a pretty car. Wonder how much they will cost if it goes into production. >> >> > I bet that this vehicle is extremely heavy by >> >> > itself and when you add the weight of the diesel to it, pushes the [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > snow around when far less expensive models could do it just as well if not > better but as I said before, that's just my personal choice. http://www.dodgechallenger.com/ ------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) Ice Angels > It is a pretty car. Wonder how much they will cost if it goes into > production. > http://www.dodgechallenger.com/ Interesting read. I question the performance claims though. Seems a tad quick for a 4100 pound car. Roy ------------------------------------------ > Laszlo Almasi > Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) > Ice Angels > >> It is a pretty car. Wonder how much they will cost if it goes into >> production. >> > of an effect on the ability to plow with the vehicle such as manuvering >> > and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > snow around when far less expensive models could do it just as well if not > better but as I said before, that's just my personal choice. I'm with TBone and Budd -- I love the old trucks -- who wants to get a brand new truck scratched up plowing when you can get a cheap old reliable D150? And if you really want something you can mount a plow on and use to carry the crew and tools, try an old cargo van -- not the same maneuverability but an all round relaiable work truck. And while I am at it, imho I don't like the new dakotas -- too big For $1000 cdn I have a set up with little work -- needed trans. for 400 in the old short box, so bought 74 powerwagon complete and running rough with no body left but plow, harness, 360+trans so am dropping out the 400 and doing a bit of body repair, new brakes and decent tires see truck: http://www3.sympatico.ca/rske/ and click on projects rach I actually love my '01 2500 QC for plowing...and no scratches at all if you're careful. The guys I contract for up north have Fords and when it comes to the heavy stuff...they actually move out of my way since they can't compete when it comes to the heavy stuff. As for a van....I'd expect huge blind spots and that'd be more of a problem than anything else. Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) Ice Angels >>> > of an effect on the ability to plow with the vehicle such as >>> > manuvering [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > rach The thing is that you are not going to do the kind of plowing down here that Roy and Denny do up north although at least up there, people know how to drive. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > I actually love my '01 2500 QC for plowing...and no scratches at all > if you're careful. The guys I contract for up north have Fords and when [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > rach although at least up there, people know how to > drive. Nope, we have more than our share of idiots here. We have a certain percentage of idiots that think they know how to drive in snow, like doing 60 mph when you should be doing 30, and bitching all the time about how people "don't know how to drive". Seems to me like they are the ones who keep the body shop busy in the winter. Denny > although at least up there, people know how to >> drive. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Denny Hey, Denny, Sent to me by a good friend from back in CO: >>>>Jeff Foxworthy on Colorado: >>>> > > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >>>> > >20. You actually understand these jokes, and you >>>> > >forward them to all your Colorado friends. And I understood every one of them. Budd Budd, by the dozen or so times I've been in Colorado, I gotta agree with a few of those. Especially about being long winded talking to strangers... Hell, It's taken me a half hour to get gas before. <BG> Denny Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . BTW, did the rest of the family recover ok from that? I never asked and hope they did. Budd > Budd, by the dozen or so times I've been in Colorado, I gotta agree with a > few of those. Especially about being long winded talking to strangers... > Hell, It's taken me a half hour to get gas before. <BG> > > Denny > Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . > > BTW, did the rest of the family recover ok from that? I never asked and > hope they did. > > Budd Hhhmmmm. Maybe that female teenager stuff that I thought was normal may have been the lasting effects from............... Now I can blame you for all this grey hair and empty bank accounts!!!!! <VBG> Denny >> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Denny I think the fact the poor girls did garner more than a bit of their looks from you might be pretty solid evidence that I am not responsible for those financial and physical conditions. Now you know the real meaning behind an F& P report . . . . . Budd >>> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I think the fact the poor girls did garner more than a bit of their looks > from you might be pretty solid evidence Wrong, wrong, wrong!! I met one of Denny's daughter's, she is a very pretty girl. Actually looked quite a bit like her mother. There is absolutley no way she resembled here father. How could you possibly say that????? <BFG> Roy >>>> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Roy And you was talking about circling jackals................. sheeeeesh Denny >>>>> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > And you was talking about circling jackals................. sheeeeesh Hey!! Stop complaining, I'm within the rules and ya know it. <BFG> Roy > Denny Rules??????? What hoppin' rules????? Ain't it Wabbit season yet????? Budd >>>>>> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Roy >> Denny >>>> Not to mention a certain Super 8 motel parking lot . . . . . >>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Roy Shush, Roy . . .we don't want the poor bunny losing what little self-confidence he . . . . . . otoh . .. . . . . . . .. Budd >I actually love my '01 2500 QC for plowing...and no scratches at all > if you're careful. The guys I contract for up north have Fords and when [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Laszlo Almasi sure -- i agree -- a point had come up about trying to make an all purpose work truck -- contracting vehicle expected to carry crew, tools, (install shelves and put a rack on top if you like) and expect it to plow as well, and it will not maneuver like a short box reg cab dodge 4x4 and the blind spots are much bigger. i guess as some of you point out, climates are too diverse in n.am. -- i expect other ideas but... i think there is a market if the contractor-owner can only write off one truck or write off lease payments which is maybe where the marketers are going with it but, imnsho, i agree that if the vehicle is expected to plow full time, you may want a different contracting truck -- even an unlicenced "wheelbarrow" for the property that may not even need brakes -- only hauls, turns, pulls, turns, pushes, turns there is no question about a short body, 4x4 and height to see. i still think if you need something to carry tools and crew (and materials too) their i have had 3 long box cargo vans over the years and visibility is not bad -- my first vehicle i ever had was a '72 gmc long box ex-refrigeration van w. motor on its way out but still good for light work, $375 cdn + needed one tie rod for safety -- had those rear mirrors you see on fed-ex trucks on one so i could parallel park with about 5-6 extra feet -- awesome visibility -- long wheelbase so turning still poor of course -- of course if a van is not modified to 4x4 you do not want to go off the road unless snow is light and you have posi rear or crew that don't mind pushing <grn> -- good for clearing a straight road or light snow as you are driving it with crew and tools like small contractors might need in one all purpose truck i think i would have at least two older trucks for the business and if i had the money for a brand new one i'd buy a toy -- forget the crew and the tools -- they could drive one of the beaters :-) and if mom needs to drive the kids around she can throw a cap on the box and throw the kids in the box <bfg> rach >>> > of an effect on the ability to plow with the vehicle such as >>> > manuvering [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > brand new truck scratched up plowing when you can get a cheap old reliable > D150? The thing with a older truck is that plowing snow really takes it's toll on a truck and reliability suffers. It doesn't matter how careful you are or how anal you are about maintance. After about 5 years ya have to just about rebuild them due to the wear and tear, salt, water and abuse. We get calls all the time from customer's who have hired some guy who with a older truck that gave them a low price that didn't show up. Believe me it doesn't work out. Maybe a older truck used around your property and your neighbors but not in commercial operation. > And if you really want something you can mount a plow on and use to carry > the crew and tools, try an old cargo van -- not the same maneuverability > but an all round relaiable work truck. A plow on a cargo van?? Roy > Are you kidding me? Not in the least. >What is it that prevents a plow from > being mounted? Dunno, probably the same bs when they started with the quad cab. Couldn't put a plow with the Cummins with them either for the first year or so. I'm thinking that the front axle once again is too light. You can put a plow on with the gas engine. Figure the gas is about 3-4 hundred pounds lighter. >I was actually thinking this would be my next > truck....but I require plow mounting. A lot of people were. It is a shame, I can plow with my 2500 quad cab with a Cummins but with a 1 ton truck ya can't. I've a friend that has a 03 crew cab with a Cummins with a 9 foot fisher on it, no problem. Same wheel base as the mega but it is a no go. Roy >> Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn >> disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Roy Then it's gotta be related to the suspension I'd think. If that's all it is then the next year or so will be ok to mount. Or...maybe aftermarket suspension upgrades will be the ticket. Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) Ice Angels >> Are you kidding me? > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> >>> Roy >Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn >disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Roy I haven't seen it yet.. is it as big/roomy as the F-250? My guess (though I don't know sh.t about snow or plowing) is that they were looking more at the RV market with the mega thing.. seems like a lot of money for a truck you're going to plow snow with.. Last time I was at the sealer, they had a standard cab 2500 HD with the cummins for about $30k... seems like more of what you'd use? mac Please remove splinters before emailing >>Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn >>disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > I haven't seen it yet.. is it as big/roomy as the F-250? It is huge in the back seat. > My guess (though I don't know sh.t about snow or plowing) is that they > were > looking more at the RV market with the mega thing.. seems like a lot of > money > for a truck you're going to plow snow with.. Seems like a lot of money for a 4X4 truck you CAN'T plow snow with. Here is what you folks may be missing. YOU CAN PLOW WITH THE MEGA CAB but with the GAS ENGINE ONLY!! That is what has folks around here questioning the strength of the truck. > Last time I was at the sealer, they had a standard cab 2500 HD with the > cummins > for about $30k... seems like more of what you'd use? Some use the standard cab. My 2K was. But it is nice to get dual use out of a truck especially at the price of the Mega Cab. My Quad Cab gives me that, 4 doors, seating for a couple of more people or a place to put stuff that is secure, a 6 foot bed that the atv will fit in, and a Cummins under the hood. It dosen't really matter what is behind the drivers seat when plowing snow. It can be a 8 foot bed or a dump body. The diesel is real important. Bro, wasn't yelling at you, just making a point in general. Roy >My guess (though I don't know sh.t about snow or plowing) is that they were >looking more at the RV market with the mega thing.. seems like a lot of money >for a truck you're going to plow snow with.. I'm not even sure they were looking at the RV market with the MegaCab. It has a shortbed box on it, which means if you go with a full sized fiver, you'd have to spend the extra bux for a sliding fifth wheel hitch. Greg >>My guess (though I don't know sh.t about snow or plowing) is that they were >>looking more at the RV market with the mega thing.. seems like a lot of money [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Greg good point, greg, but most of the folks that I know with 5'ers have the short box and 4 doors... (a lot of f-250/350's) I was advised by a lot of people that if you're going to buy a 5th wheel hitch, spend the extra $100 for a slider as cheap insurance and hope that you never need it.. My buddy has been full time for a few years now with his f-250HD and whatever they call their 4 door cab... short bed, 5th wheel hitch and 36' 5'er... He says that he's used his slider twice so far, once at the dealer to make sure that it worked, once when he was coming out of a tight space and slid the hitch "just in case"... mac Please remove splinters before emailing my next door neighbor has a 35 foot fleetwood he pulls behind his crew cab short box f250 he has only slid the hitch forward once. most the time he pulls his with the slider slid back. says it does fine and makes him feel better as he worries about the cab interference if he should forget. dont know if i would want to try pulling one that way though. i wonder about pin location and weight dist with it slid back. Signature-Chris 05 CTD 99 Durango > >>My guess (though I don't know sh.t about snow or plowing) is that they were > >>looking more at the RV market with the mega thing.. seems like a lot of money [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Please remove splinters before emailing >my next door neighbor has a 35 foot fleetwood he pulls behind his crew cab >short box f250 he has only slid the hitch forward once. most the time he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >dont know if i would want to try pulling one that way though. i wonder about >pin location and weight dist with it slid back. I guess that was my point. Why should I have to pay extra for a slider hitch and why should I have to worry about dinging the corner of the trailer against the back of the cab in a truck in a senile moment when I forget to slide the hitch back. They should offer a long box option, IMO. Greg >>my next door neighbor has a 35 foot fleetwood he pulls behind his crew cab >>short box f250 he has only slid the hitch forward once. most the time he [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > moment when I forget to slide the hitch back. They should offer a > long box option, IMO. It would seem that DC should off a bunch of options. I wonder how their sales would be if the contract with Cummins went away. Roy > Greg As I said before, perhaps they will in the future but to do it now would be way too expensive and not worth the investment for a new model, especially since this new model would be just about impossible to park in a lot or garage. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > >my next door neighbor has a 35 foot fleetwood he pulls behind his crew cab [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Greg i have no trouble parking my truck Signature-Chris 05 CTD 99 Durango > As I said before, perhaps they will in the future but to do it now would be > way too expensive and not worth the investment for a new model, especially [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Greg It is not a matter of driving skill, it is a matter physical size and it not fitting. My truck just fits into my garage length wise and it is a standard cab long bed. A crew cab long bed would not fit and a mega-cab long bed would be almost two feet longer than that. I can see how much farther my truck sticks out in a parking space than many of the cars around it and my buddies crew cabs stick out even farther. This mega-cab would stick out another two feet beyond the length of a crew cab long bed and would probably get it's nose or tail clipped by other vehicles unless you parked it out in the boondocks taking up two spaces and the turning radius would probably suck as well. Then you could add to that the possible negative public opinion of such a huge unnecessary vehicle when we are already in trouble with our current fuel consumption that could kill sales and their investment in this new model which may happen anyway. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > i have no trouble parking my truck > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > Greg >It is not a matter of driving skill, it is a matter physical size and it not >fitting. My truck just fits into my garage length wise and it is a standard [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >with our current fuel consumption that could kill sales and their investment >in this new model which may happen anyway. <G> Neither of the USA's Big Two are in so much trouble that they are being forced into Chapter 11 . . . yet! . . . despite the fact that one of GM's big pushes this year will be for it's big SUV's. And I already park out in BF at the malls and shopping centers where I can take up two spaces so the front end doesn't stick out. Only tough place is the parking garage at the Navy hospital where they don't have head to head parking slots ;-( Greg ><G> Neither of the USA's Big Two are in so much trouble that they are >being forced into Chapter 11 . . . yet! . . . despite the fact that >one of GM's big pushes this year will be for it's big SUV's. And I just found this: "At least Ford Motor Co. did in determining how best to introduce the redesigned 2007 Ford Expedition SUV and the new supersize Ford Expedition EL, which will hit showrooms this fall." You can see Ford's spin here: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/AUTO01/601290341/1149 /rss26 Greg > ><G> Neither of the USA's Big Two are in so much trouble that they are > >being forced into Chapter 11 . . . yet! . . . despite the fact that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You can see Ford's spin here: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/AUTO01/601290341/1149 /rss26 They can spin it all they want, the massive upcoming layoffs and plant closures say all that needs to be said. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > >It is not a matter of driving skill, it is a matter physical size and it not > >fitting. My truck just fits into my garage length wise and it is a standard [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > being forced into Chapter 11 . . . yet! . . . despite the fact that > one of GM's big pushes this year will be for it's big SUV's. LOL, are you so sure of that? Ford is letting go between 30, 000 and 40,000 employees and closing 13 to 14 plants. Not exactly the picture of health. GM OTOH, is thinking about eliminating or significantly reducing its dividend and has sold a significant amount of GMAC (perhaps to force a bankruptcy), again not exactly the picture of health. Both have lost considerable market share and are continuing to do so. > And I already park out in BF at the malls and shopping centers where I > can take up two spaces so the front end doesn't stick out. Only tough > place is the parking garage at the Navy hospital where they don't have > head to head parking slots ;-( And if they came out with the mega-cab long bed, you would not be able to park it there at all. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn > disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Roy Wow, That really surprises me too. Thank you Roy for posting this. I was close to purchasing a Mega Cab, but after finding your post, I doubt I will. I just naturally assumed, an HD truck would accomodate a plow. I am going to have to start pricing out the Quad Cab 2500 CTD instead. I am amazed that Dodge would have made an oversight such as this. It's too bad, the Mega Cab would have been perfect for me. Would you by any chance know whether it is the suspension or the axle assembly itself not being up to par? I'm glad I discovered this newsgroup, lots of knowledgeable people with great info to share. Cheers, Mike C I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a vehicle? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > > Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Mike C >I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a > vehicle? A 4X4 with 160" wheelbase and a plow. What is to understand?? > >I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a > > vehicle? > > A 4X4 with 160" wheelbase and a plow. What is to understand?? Because IIRC, that is the same wheelbase as the quad cab LB. You also made a very valid point that vehicles with plows can get the hell beat out of them and don't tend to last as long so why would you put such a device on DC's most expensive luxury targeted truck when the quad cab gives you the same wheelbase and passenger carrying capability for considerably less money. 1500 series trucks also come as 4X4's but I doubt that you would recommend them for preferred use as snow plows. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a >> > vehicle? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > same wheelbase and passenger carrying capability for considerably less > money. Because they want to. Dual use. A one ton 4X4 tuck should be able to plow if so desired, and that seem to be the case. There is not much more luxury offered in the MC than in the QC. Only a longer cab. People plow with the top of the line trucks made by Ford and Chevy and with DC top line with the excetion of the MCCTD. > 1500 series trucks also come as 4X4's but I doubt that you would > recommend them for preferred use as snow plows. You are correct. Roy SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > >> >I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > money. > Because they want to. Fair enough. > Dual use. Again, this is just my personal opinion but I wouldn't want to make that one of the uses on such an expensive vehicle. > A one ton 4X4 tuck should be able to plow if so desired, and that > seem to be the case. There is not much more luxury offered in the MC than in > the QC. Only a longer cab. People plow with the top of the line trucks made > by Ford and Chevy and with DC top line with the excetion of the MCCTD. Like I said before, I am not saying you're wrong, I just don't personally see it but since you do this type of work and I never have... > > 1500 series trucks also come as 4X4's but I doubt that you would > > recommend them for preferred use as snow plows. > > You are correct. LOL, I hope so. > Roy > Like I said before, I am not saying you're wrong, I just don't personally > see it but since you do this type of work and I never have... Lucifer just put on his ear muffs.... :) Do the words BITE ME have any meaning to you :-) SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > Like I said before, I am not saying you're wrong, I just don't personally > > see it but since you do this type of work and I never have... > > Lucifer just put on his ear muffs.... :) > Do the words BITE ME have any meaning to you :-) sorry TBone -- gotta take a shot here <grn> -- and warn you: last time a guy told me that, i replied, "where would you prefer?" rach >> > Like I said before, I am not saying you're wrong, I just don't > personally >> > see it but since you do this type of work and I never have... >> >> Lucifer just put on his ear muffs.... :) I guess it's understanding beating the living hell out of such an expensive vehicle when much less costly ones can do the same job and do it as well if not better as there is less crap to break. When I look at that truck, I see rear reclining leather seats, multiple stereo systems, probably multiple climate controls, soft ride, not exactly what I would call a down and dirty work truck and I would personally be far to worried about damaging it and/or voiding its warranty. Like I said multiple times, I have never plowed and don't think I'll ever have to if I stay here in NC and my fears are based on horror stories told to me by others that do plow rather than personal experience and this is simply my personal opinion. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > >I still don't understand why someone would want to put a plow on such a > > vehicle? > > A 4X4 with 160" wheelbase and a plow. What is to understand?? >> Was out with a friend looking at the new Mega Cab's. What a damn >> disappointment. A suppoosedly HD 4x4 truck that you can't put a plow on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > close to purchasing a Mega Cab, but after finding your post, I doubt I > will. I just naturally assumed, an HD truck would accomodate a plow. Don't be misled. You can put a plow on a hemi powered mega cab. > I am going to have to start pricing out the Quad Cab 2500 CTD instead. I've plowed with a 2500 QC CTD for a couple of years with no problems. I'd suggest a rear window defogger though. > I am amazed that Dodge would have made an oversight such as this. It's > too bad, the Mega Cab would have been perfect for me. Would have been perfect for a lot of people. > Would you by any chance know whether it is the suspension or the axle > assembly itself not being up to par? I'm not sure. Roy |
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