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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2006

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Langerhans - 27 Jan 2006 03:41 GMT
I've finally decided to bite the bullet and buy myself a new OBD-II code
reader. I've looked at a few models on the web, and am leaning toward
the Innova/Equus CANOBD-II Model 3110.

Does anybody here have anything good or bad to say about this one?

I'm also a bit confused about the CAN protocol. It appears that DC
introduced this on some '04 models, and frankly, I figure that since I'm
not likely to buy another scanner this decade, it's worth the small
upcharge to include this feature, since it's going to be required on all
cars soon.

Can anybody point me to a source of information as to which DC models
use CAN, and what it is good for?

Thanks.
terrapin - 27 Jan 2006 04:33 GMT
> I've finally decided to bite the bullet and buy myself a new OBD-II code
> reader. I've looked at a few models on the web, and am leaning toward
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>
> Thanks.

I've been satisfied with a Model 3100, never heard of CAN before. Now
you made me find this:
http://www.iequus.com/assets/code_readers/CAN_vehicles.htm

It's good for nothing! My next truck will be an oldie.
Langerhans - 27 Jan 2006 17:28 GMT
>> I've finally decided to bite the bullet and buy myself a new OBD-II
>> code reader. I've looked at a few models on the web, and am leaning
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>
> It's good for nothing! My next truck will be an oldie.

Thanks for the reply. I gotta wonder how you found that page, as I
thought I had wrung out their site for the info. Anyway, thanks again.
TheSnoMan - 27 Jan 2006 17:25 GMT
> I've finally decided to bite the bullet and buy myself a new OBD-II code
> reader. I've looked at a few models on the web, and am leaning toward
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thanks.

I have a GJ3-S made by Injectoclean and it is awesome and you can update
it for free online and it support CAN now and it has a feed thru so you
can connect it to a laptop or a PDA!

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Steve Lusardi - 28 Jan 2006 12:26 GMT
The CAN bus is an industry standard inter controller network. It was
originally designed by Bosch and has since been adopted by SAE. It is now
used throughout the industry. The protocol is in the public domain and
consequently readily available. Although the protocol identifies the
structure of the data sentence, the contents of the data code carried is
proprietary and is fiercly protected. That means boys and girls that the
data can be read, but is meaningless without the ability to decode the
contents. Owning one of these readers is only half the answer. The DRB III
the dealers use also contains the Daimler Chrysler proprietary translation
and that is NOT in the public domain. Of course the DRB III is ONLY
available to dealers, it cost around $6,000 and its firmware is updated
monthly.
Steve

> I've finally decided to bite the bullet and buy myself a new OBD-II code
> reader. I've looked at a few models on the web, and am leaning toward the
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thanks.
Langerhans - 28 Jan 2006 21:38 GMT
> The CAN bus is an industry standard inter controller network. It was
> originally designed by Bosch and has since been adopted by SAE. It is now
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> monthly.
> Steve

Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the reply. I have taken a look at the Bosch
CAN site, and you have cleared up some of my confusion.

I guess the takeaway message here is that, as a weekend mechanic who
works only on his own cars, the value of a code reader capable of
reading CAN data is somewhat questionable.

I may decide to go with a plain vanilla reader and save some bux.
 
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