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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2006

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Budd Cochran - 30 Jan 2006 04:40 GMT
Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition module
by connecting a set of points to pin  # 4. I disagree.

There's a 12 pack of Pepsi One riding on who is right.

Thanks, folks!

Budd
Ace - 30 Jan 2006 05:09 GMT
Budd

I swaped my 72 Dodge 318 to a transistor by doing this. Took a module
from a 73 318 van.  Not sure about the pin numbers though. Also had to
add a different resistor block. Made it a different PU in a hurry.
Better low end torque and it cleaned out the carbon etc in about a
week.
Bob  AZ
Budd Cochran - 30 Jan 2006 13:47 GMT
Personally, I think it was one of the best systems ever made and should
have been adapted to Chrysler computerized cars just to give a less
expensive ignition repair. Crank trigger input to a computer run timing
program then to the ECU and then output to run the coil.

The computer would be cheaper to replace since it could use a smaller
trigger transistor.

Budd

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TBone - 30 Jan 2006 05:14 GMT
> Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
> electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition module
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>
> Thanks, folks!

If you connect a set of points to pin 4 then you have effectively bypassed
the electronic ignition and turned it back into a standard point type
ignition since pin 4 is what the big transistor actually controls, so you
are correct Budd.

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Budd Cochran - 30 Jan 2006 13:43 GMT
> > Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
> > electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition
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> ignition since pin 4 is what the big transistor actually controls, so you
> are correct Budd.

How can that be when pin # 4 is one of the pins to the control side of
the transistor and not directly to a coil connection? The transistor
would act like a backwards diode. Pin # 5 is a redundant ground to the
distributor pickup, so no point connection there would work.

You're not making sense, Tom.

Budd
TBone - 30 Jan 2006 14:54 GMT
> > > Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
> > > electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition
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> would act like a backwards diode. Pin # 5 is a redundant ground to the
> distributor pickup, so no point connection there would work.

My mistake.  I forgot about the screwed up pin out numbering of that ECU and
my manual does not number them and it was late and I just counted around the
connector.  As for pin 4, it needs a voltage to be applied and removed there
to trigger the ECU and a set of points directly connected to ground (as most
are) would not supply that and therefore have no effect.

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beekeep - 30 Jan 2006 10:31 GMT
>Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
>electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition module
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>
>Budd

Yeah, right, like wer're supposed to believe you have any friends!

beekeep
Budd Cochran - 30 Jan 2006 13:48 GMT
At least my "friends" won't sting me in a heartbeat. VBG

Budd

> >Ok, folks, a friend and I were discussing the first generation Chrysler
> >electronic ignition. He says you can use one as a transistor ignition module
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>
> beekeep
beekeep - 31 Jan 2006 00:41 GMT
>At least my "friends" won't sting me in a heartbeat. VBG
>
>Budd

That's just my girls kissing me.

beekeep

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