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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / February 2006

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Is Odometer "rollback" still possible?

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c - 13 Feb 2006 06:47 GMT
What's possible and what's not in the world of odometer rollback these days?

RE: Digital odometers can they be rolled back or can they pretty much be
trusted?

What about the devious owner who just disconnects the odometer...is that
possible or will the engine computer pick it up and toss everything into
"limp mode"?

Vehicle in my sights is a 2500 ...but I'd like to se what anyone has to say
on the topic in a more general sense...

Thanks,  Chuck
Tom Lawrence - 13 Feb 2006 06:53 GMT
> What's possible and what's not in the world of odometer rollback these
> days?

Someone can disconnect the speed sensor, which will not let the odometer
itself accumulate, but the PCM (engine computer) still keeps an internal
counter, which can be easily checked with a dealer's diagnostic computer.

> Vehicle in my sights is a 2500 ...but I'd like to se what anyone has to
> say on the topic in a more general sense...

If you are otherwise committed to the vehicle, and have reason to suspect
tampering, see if the owner will let you take it to a local dealer to just
"scan for codes" (but mention to the service guys what you're interested in
seeing).  It'll probably cost you a half-hour's shop rate, but it would be
worth it for peace of mind.
Scott Moseman - 13 Feb 2006 14:09 GMT
My wife's car (make/model will not be disclosed) can just have the
onboard computer swapped and the mileage changes with the computer.
The dealership, or maybe it's a function of GM when they order the
part, can reset the mileage to anything.  Digital odometers cannot be
100% trusted.  But, to be fair, neither can analog odometers.  Do your
research on a vehicle before purchasing if the mileage is a big factor.

Thanks,
Scott
Steve K - 13 Feb 2006 14:09 GMT
> > What's possible and what's not in the world of odometer rollback these
> > days?
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> seeing).  It'll probably cost you a half-hour's shop rate, but it would be
> worth it for peace of mind.

Won't changing the computer allow you to re-enter the mileage at
whatever you'd like?
Coasty - 15 Feb 2006 11:19 GMT
>> What's possible and what's not in the world of odometer rollback these
>> days?
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> in seeing).  It'll probably cost you a half-hour's shop rate, but it would
> be worth it for peace of mind.

If you do all your service yourself some unscrupulous person might just buy
a new odometer and install it themselves.  Who would be the wiser, no dealer
check, or carfax check will ever tell.  In the states with yearly
inspections that record the mileage many only maintain the mileage records
in the data base which do not make it to the DMV.  A few states the
inspection and mileage do make it to the DMV in that case when the vehicle
is sold you will know during the title transfer.

The other thing people have done is pull an odometer from a junk yard that
has low mileage on it and install it in a vehicle with high mileage.

Coasty
EDTHEWARD - 15 Feb 2006 01:14 GMT
> What's possible and what's not in the world of odometer rollback these
> days?
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>
> Thanks,  Chuck

If you pay  for an online full disclosure vin check, and the truck has been
to a dealer, the mileage should have been recorded at that time and any
repairs recorded also.  also will list transfer of ownership at the very
least and the mileage at the time.
td - 15 Feb 2006 03:32 GMT
Odometer rollback happens all the time, digital and analog (scan a lot
of VINS on ebay and you'll see more Milage Rollback warnings than you
can shake a stick at).  Be really cautious about older vehicles near
the drop point, ie a RAM 2500 @ 74,000 miles instead of 120,000 is a
big payout for a roller.  Trust your gut and walk away if it's to good
to be true.  CarFAX can help with their 1 year warantee but I've never
heard of anyone who actually collected on it.

Of course if it's a diesel who cares it'll run forever anyway :)
 
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