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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / March 2006HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDD!
like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday.  SignatureNathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com http://InlineDiesel.com http://BighornRefrigeration.com http://ConcealedCarryForum.com > like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. ========= ========= who brought the cake.......?????? ~:~ MarshMonster ~drinks one to Budd.....while wrapping the "Tornado" and putting on the bow~ >> like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. > >========= >========= > >who brought the cake.......?????? i did. better check it for fuses. (vbg) >~:~ >MarshMonster >~drinks one to Budd.....while wrapping the "Tornado" and putting on the >bow~ Then I would suggest not lighting the candles. Happy Birthday Budd and Nate SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > >> like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >~drinks one to Budd.....while wrapping the "Tornado" and putting on the > >bow~ On 2/20/06 6:42 PM, in article 1fokv1lr0m6c5ct9q93fdiebfbem9lh0bu@4ax.com, >>> like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > i did. better check it for fuses. (vbg) Hell with the cake, where's the booze Happy birthday Bud and I hope you have many more to come :))) Dale > > like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ~drinks one to Budd.....while wrapping the "Tornado" and putting on the > bow~ Never mind the cake... who brought the beer?! =) I got the beer and I am drinking one now, toasting these two people I consider friends on their B-day. Let's see, this make Nate what, about 75 and Budd about 30? <VBFG> >> > like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Never mind the cake... who brought the beer?! =) I'm 59 and Nate's young enough to be my son, if I had sired one at age 20, that is. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >I got the beer and I am drinking one now, toasting these two people I >consider friends on their B-day. Let's see, this make Nate what, about 75 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Never mind the cake... who brought the beer?! =) Aren't they twins, somehow they got separated at birth. On 2/20/06 10:54 PM, in article u1xKf.18$V27.6@fed1read06, "azwiley1" > I got the beer and I am drinking one now, toasting these two people I > consider friends on their B-day. Let's see, this make Nate what, about 75 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Never mind the cake... who brought the beer?! =) It's yours too, ya big bag of overdeveloped muscle. <VBG> Hope ya had a good one. I did. I got some parts for my old motor scooter, some tools and a big old birthday cake, but thanks to my diabetes, I could only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 > like the subject line says, this is budd's birthday. Nates birthday also??? Happy birthday Nathan, does that make you and Budd twins??? :))) dale On 2/20/06 7:08 PM, in article 43fa68e6$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom SPAM.net> wrote: > It's yours too, ya big bag of overdeveloped muscle. <VBG> > > Hope ya had a good one. I did. I got some parts for my old motor scooter, > some tools and a big old birthday cake, but thanks to my diabetes, I could > only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. Of course not, Dale. Nate would have to become much better looking for us to be twins. How ya been, friend? SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 > Nates birthday also??? > Happy birthday Nathan, does that make you and Budd twins??? :))) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> could >> only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. I have been doing ok, healh wise. Farming has been the sh.ts, poor poor grain prices. Here's a joke: My farming neighbour friend took a thousand dollars out of his bank account all in loonies (our dollar coin is called a loonie). I seen him standing on a busy street corner with a lot of people gathered around him. I went over to see what was going on. Here the fool had set up a money exchange. He was selling his $1 coins for 75ยข. Man, did he have a line up. I asked him what was he thinking of. How in the hell are you making any money doing this. He looked at me and says: This is better then farming :)))) Dale On 2/24/06 5:54 AM, in article 43fef4cb$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom SPAM.net> wrote: > Of course not, Dale. Nate would have to become much better looking for us to > be twins. > > How ya been, friend? Compared to the two ol' boys I saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each, he _was_ making a fortune! Sorry to hear about the grain prices. I think US farmers have been doing poorly as well. My health has been better of late, but I think it's because I've lost about 50 pounds . . . .and no, I don't plan to go looking for them. <VBG> SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >I have been doing ok, healh wise. > Farming has been the sh.ts, poor poor grain prices. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> How ya been, friend? Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind you. <BFG> SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > Compared to the two ol' boys I saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling > them for $0.50 each, he _was_ making a fortune! [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. What is it, Tom? Is it that guys like you can't stand to hear of another person's successes or achievements? Are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming I was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health? I know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called "whining", so what will you do with this? Don't worry, I won't accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 > Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind > you. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from > http://www.SecureIX.com *** >Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a >disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Don't worry, I won't accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around, even just on a ng, you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. first, the joke was a common one, i have heard people say that same thing, tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no, you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course, you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. anyway, back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little, even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. >>Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a >>disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have > to take it personally. If you tease a dog long enough, it will bite. Consider yourself bit. > first, the joke was a common one, i have heard people say that same > thing, tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized > that..........but no, you are always just spoinling for a fight. of > course, you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like > a baby. I'm sorry, where is it written that I can't be offended by people like the two of you? I don't have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. > anyway, back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it > never hurts to laugh a little, even if you think you might be laughing > at yourself. Stop acting like I should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. >>>Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a >>>disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >If you tease a dog long enough, it will bite. Consider yourself bit. lol. ok. i'm just almost speechless. what an idiot. >> first, the joke was a common one, i have heard people say that same >> thing, tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I'm sorry, where is it written that I can't be offended by people like the >two of you? I don't have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. i suppose you can be as big an idiot as you want to be. you don't even have to try. >> anyway, back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it >> never hurts to laugh a little, even if you think you might be laughing >> at yourself. > >Stop acting like I should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. budd, that is sort of the point, except that it is you that acts like you should bbe stuffed in a closet and/or ignored. i don't do that, you do it all by yourself. >*** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** >*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** >>>>Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a >>>>disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > lol. ok. i'm just almost speechless. what an idiot. Yes, you are. >>> first, the joke was a common one, i have heard people say that same >>> thing, tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > i suppose you can be as big an idiot as you want to be. you don't > even have to try. And you can be as unsociable as you want to be, just don't expect me to roll over and play dead for it. >>> anyway, back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it >>> never hurts to laugh a little, even if you think you might be laughing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you should bbe stuffed in a closet and/or ignored. i don't do that, > you do it all by yourself. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You and Tom have taken a simple report on the status of my health and a mention of physical limitations and turned it into an insult directed towards me. It shows the depths of your intolerance and uncaring attitudes. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>>>>Ya know, as I wrote those words I just knew someone would have to make a >>>>>disparaging crack about it. Thanks for being predictable, as always. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >It shows the depths of your intolerance and uncaring attitudes. what are you talking about? > what are you talking about? Something beyond your capacity to comprehend, apparently. >> what are you talking about? > >Something beyond your capacity to comprehend, apparently. or: 1. yours to explain, or 2. there is no explaination. and it is door number two budd. that's because you don't even know what the explaination is. you don't know what you are even talking about once again. >*** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** >*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Whatever. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>> what are you talking about? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from >>http://www.SecureIX.com *** >> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >> you. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Don't worry, I won't accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. Dammit, Bud! Yes, he's a bothersome, know-it-all PITA, but he was just joking. SignatureSome people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. >>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>> you. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Dammit, Bud! Yes, he's a bothersome, know-it-all PITA, but he was just > joking. Darn it, Mike!!!! How many times do I have to put up with their crap about my health?????? But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations, aches and pains, reported their health condition to friends when asked. Budd >>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Darn it, Mike!!!! How many times do I have to put up with their crap about >my health?????? oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke, one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldn't have whined about like a baby..........except you. >But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of >their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some physical >limitations, aches and pains, reported their health condition to friends >when asked. > >Budd i have no f.cking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of sh.t. but never the less, if you don't want it discussed or mentioned, two pieces of advise for you: 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the f.cking issue. you do it, you bring it up, you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? it is a public news group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public newsgroup, it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet? >*** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** >*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else > here wouldn't have whined about like a baby..........except you. Which proves I am not "everyone else". I have the right to be offended. >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of >>their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > i have no f.cking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine > about people making fun of your health and that type of sh.t. Ah, you have short, medium and long term memory problems. > but > never the less, if you don't want it discussed or mentioned, two > pieces of advise for you: Take your "advice" and shove it. > 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it > up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the f.cking issue. > you do it, you bring it up, you discuss it and then you whine about it > being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could > not be more stupid budd. I only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. That you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? > it is a public news group budd. think about that. no password > required to get on. you bring it up in a public newsgroup, it is > pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you > getting the picture yet? Gee, mr nobody (since you refuse to identify yourself, that's who you are to me, nobody), shove it someplace dark and smelly. I know very well what this group is. Do you? Do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale? Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read here in the States? Guess what? I don't put anything on these pixels that I need worry about. I have nothing to hide. Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take delight in another's suffering or anguish. Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. Congratulations, I'm your fault, and Tom's. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>>>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >I only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. That >you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what? >> 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that >> anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >group is. Do you? Do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards >me on an international scale? now you got me laughing. man, you are amazing. what a waste. >Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's >broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read here >in the States? Guess what? I don't put anything on these pixels that I need >worry about. I have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up? >Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take delight >in another's suffering or anguish. again, what are you talkiing about? i don't make fun of any "suffering or anguish" you mention here. in fact, i am really not sure what "suffering and anguish" you are even talking about. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity, which you don't acknowledge. in fact, at first i actually tried to help you out budd, but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. as is usual, you are your own worst enemy. i don't know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are. it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you said that you were 59 the other day?? that isn't that old. it isn't old at all. you got a lot of life in front of you but with your attitude you are going to walk backward through the whole thing. >Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but >you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. >Congratulations, I'm your fault, and Tom's. no, you are your own fault budd. nobody,,,,,,and i mean nobody,,,,,,,can control the way you think and what you say and how you confront life except you. once again, it is a victims mantality to put responsiblity for your own actions at someone elses feet. >>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>> behind [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > what? Read it again, but more slowly. >>> 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that >>> anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > now you got me laughing. man, you are amazing. what a waste. The internet is a two way street. Your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. >>Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's >>broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read here [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > then why do you whine when it is brought up? I call it self -defense. >>Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take >>delight [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "suffering or anguish" you mention here. in fact, i am really not sure > what "suffering and anguish" you are even talking about. ROTFLMBO!!!! Go on, denial is the first step towards admission. > you have an > incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity, > which you don't acknowledge. So you admit to being deliberately insulting? How unsociable. > in fact, at first i actually tried to > help you out budd, but you went spastic and refused to > listen........to me or to several others that have written the same > thing. One difference between you, Tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends, as far as I can tell from your lack of identity. I don't listen to enemies. > as is usual, you are your own worst enemy. Really?? That would be your worthless-to me opinion, of course. > i don't know what > physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever > they are I don't believe you. You have made the situation such that I cannot believe you. > it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you > said that you were 59 the other day?? that isn't that old. it isn't > old at all. you got a lot of life in front of you but with your > attitude you are going to walk backward through the whole thing. You are not me, so how can you presume to decide how "old" I should be or how I should feel? How dare you! Get out and look around you. There are people much younger than me that are much "older", healthwise, than I due to their own infimities. And yes, I have told you what my health problems are, but your poor memory seems to select what it will retain. >>Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but >>you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you confront life except you. once again, it is a victims mantality > to put responsiblity for your own actions at someone elses feet. How odd it is that you can remember to call me stupid, a person with a victim mentality, and not remember my infirmities. Btw, where did you get your degree in psychology? Cracker Jacks box? SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>>> behind [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] >One difference between you, Tom and the others . . . .you two have never >been my friends, score one for tom and i. > as far as I can tell from your lack of identity. I don't >listen to enemies. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >You are not me, score one more for me. > so how can you presume to decide how "old" I should be or >how I should feel? How dare you lol. you are f.cking senile. >you are Get out and look around you. There are >people much younger than me that are much "older", healthwise, than I due to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Btw, where did you get your degree in psychology? Cracker Jacks box? no, college, but i would not expect you to catch that. >>>>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>>>> behind [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] > > no, college, but i would not expect you to catch that. Then you should ask for your money back. You learned nothing. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>>>>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>>>>> behind [quoted text clipped - 187 lines] > >Then you should ask for your money back. You learned nothing. lmfao, yeah, like you'd know. >>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" >>>>>>> <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 205 lines] > > lmfao, yeah, like you'd know. I've known a few psychologists / psychiatrists as either a friend or a family member, and none make the kind of asinine assumptions that you have. Yep, demand your money back. Besides, Freud was a frustrated pedophile and narcissist. Not all education can be found in halls of ivy. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 > >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind > >>>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Which proves I am not "everyone else". I have the right to be offended. Sure you do but in this case, you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. > >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of > >>their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. That > you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. There is a big difference between insults and joking Budd. The only one talking about your health for years is YOU. > > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that > > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > group is. Do you? Do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards > me on an international scale? LOL! The sad thing here Budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. > Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's > broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read here > in the States? Guess what? I don't put anything on these pixels that I need > worry about. I have nothing to hide. Please define this intolerance you speak of and please give examples. > Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take delight > in another's suffering or anguish. Oh, give us a break. > Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but > you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. > Congratulations, I'm your fault, and Tom's. Really?????? When???? Sorry Budd, but you have always acted this way and while I fully admit that I was an a.shole over a year ago toward you, it most certainly was not one sided. The difference now is that it is one sided and it is on you this time. Now you have a choice. You can grow up or continue to be an a.shole, choose! SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all > behind [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > making > a fool out of yourself doing it this way. In your bigoted opinion. Actually, I find you extremely offensive. An anti-social cur, to be exact. >> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of >> >>their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > There is a big difference between insults and joking Budd. The only one > talking about your health for years is YOU. Ah, yes, I forget, _YOU_ never are in error. That's why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. In my case, you attack my health. Btw, those attacks, as far as I'm concerned, are insults. >> > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that >> > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > LOL! The sad thing here Budd is that your childish whining is also on a > international scale. Your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the Internet, possibly the Universe . . . . >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's >> broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Please define this intolerance you speak of and please give examples. I'm sorry, did you miss that class in your liberal studies? >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take > delight >> in another's suffering or anguish. > > Oh, give us a break. How about you give me a break? >> Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but >> you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sided and it is on you this time. Now you have a choice. You can grow up > or continue to be an a.shole, choose! No, you are still the same, and I am still defending my faith, my health, and my knowledge because you are still the same, if not worse. Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just so you understand. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>> >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >> behind [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >In your bigoted opinion. Actually, I find you extremely offensive. An >anti-social cur, to be exact. geez, score one more for tom. i'm falling behind. >>> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of >>> >>their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just so you >understand. > >> >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all > > behind [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > In your bigoted opinion. Actually, I find you extremely offensive. An > anti-social cur, to be exact. The problem is Budd that it is not just my opinion, it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. Of course you find me offensive, that is your hatred of me showing through. > >> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun of > >> >>their physical limitations, etc. just because they admitted to some [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Ah, yes, I forget, _YOU_ never are in error. What does this incorrect statement have to do with anything??? > That's why whenever anyone > points out your errors you attack them personally. In my case, you attack my > health. Btw, those attacks, as far as I'm concerned, are insults. Once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and BTW, this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. No need to point to a link as you just did it again, LOL! > >> > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that > >> > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to you? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the Internet, > possibly the Universe . . . . It is not paranoia, just intelligence. There are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but I am the first to admit that I am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of ID theft and the international level of UseNet it simply is not worth the risk. The thing is Budd that you really have nothing to lose but I and many others do. > >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's > >> broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'm sorry, did you miss that class in your liberal studies? This neither answers the question or provides any examples, IOW, another false accusation. > >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take > > delight [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How about you give me a break? I haven't done anything to you Budd. > >> Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, but > >> you both went beyond that, and that's were things are today. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > No, you are still the same, and I am still defending my faith, my health, > and my knowledge because you are still the same, if not worse. Really??? Where is the proof to back up these lies? I said you were wrong a little while ago because you were, it has been a long time since I questioned your faith and years since I said anything negative about your health and I don't think I ever said anything negative about your actual health issues. > Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just so you > understand. You really need to get you accusations in order. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" >> >> > <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > your > hatred of me showing through. ROTFLMBO!!!! I don't hate you, there's nothing to hate. . . . . . . Btw, my friends know they can speak for themselves. They sure don't need you to do it for them. >> >> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun > of [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. No > need to point to a link as you just did it again, LOL! Spin, twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know? >> >> > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that >> >> > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > It is not paranoia, just intelligence. ROTFLMBO!!!!!! > There are some in here with a > sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of UseNet it simply is not worth the risk. The thing is Budd that you > really have nothing to lose but I and many others do. ROTFLMBO!!!!!!! "Thou Fool!"" ( Jesus of Nazareth circa 30 A.D.) Do you really believe that ID theives strike only those with "something to lose"?????? I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation shows it to be far less rampant than you fear. Btw, your phrasing, once again, says you consider yourself to be better than me. I'd also like to know how you know how much I have. Maybe _you're_ an ID thief . . . . . . >> >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's >> >> broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > This neither answers the question or provides any examples, IOW, another > false accusation. Don't have define anything, your phrasing is rank with it today. >> >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take >> > delight [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I haven't done anything to you Budd. Yes, you have, or have you forgotten your denegration of my faith, the teases about health( claiming you didn't know is no excuse for the teases. It's socially unacceptable and bigotous), or just the plain name calling? >> >> Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, > but [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > health and I don't think I ever said anything negative about your actual > health issues. You still are saying them. >> Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just so > you >> understand. > > You really need to get you accusations in order. And you just need to admit to the truth. SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 > >> >> > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" > >> >> > <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > I don't hate you, there's nothing to hate. . . . . . . LOL, and everything else you say says different. It is ok for "friends" to say what they want but not me or theguy. You didn't say not anyone else, you named us specifically. The funny thing is not all that long ago you were calling theguy a friend. What happened Budd? Do you even know what a friend is beyond the dictionary definition? > Btw, my friends know they can speak for themselves. They sure don't need you > to do it for them. I am doing no such thing. They are speaking for themselves and in this thread. You are just in too deep a level of denial to see it. > >> >> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making fun > > of [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Spin, twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know? Sorry Budd, there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming from YOU! > >> >> > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise that > >> >> > anyone can read the sh.t posted here? has that ever occurred to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > ROTFLMBO!!!!!! Is this the laugh of ignorance I see??? > > There are some in here with a > > sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > really believe that ID theives strike only those with "something to > lose"?????? Of course not, talk about twist and spin. The difference is that if you don't have much to lose, there is not much risk either. > I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation shows > it to be far less rampant than you fear. For identity theft, maybe. That would depend on what they were after now, wouldn't it? And here comes the denial since it is far more wide spread than you would care to believe. > Btw, your phrasing, once again, says you consider yourself to be better than > me. I'd also like to know how you know how much I have. Maybe _you're_ an ID > thief . . . . . . Once again, your paranoia strikes again, along with the false accusations. I don't know how much you have other than what you have said many times in this international NG. Perhaps you have a lot of money packed away somewhere and I hope that you do for your sake alone. > >> >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that it's > >> >> broadcast internationally. Do you think your intolerance is only read [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Don't have define anything, your phrasing is rank with it today. Like I said, you can't and there are still no examples, imagine that. > >> >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take > >> > delight [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > teases about health( claiming you didn't know is no excuse for the teases. > It's socially unacceptable and bigotous), or just the plain name calling? Lets see some examples. > >> >> Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be teases, > > but [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > You still are saying them. Still saying what Budd? Your imagination and paranoia are getting the best of you again. > >> Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just so > > you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And you just need to admit to the truth. And what would that be Budd, the real truth or your imagined one? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> >> > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" >> >> >> > <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > to > say what they want but not me or theguy. I'm sorry, what part of "you're not a friend so leave me alone" don't you understand? Do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world? Can I not do the same in a virtual world? > You didn't say not anyone else, > you named us specifically. Yes, that is true. Like I said, there is NOTHING to hate. You are insignificant. > The funny thing is not all that long ago you > were calling theguy a friend. What happened Budd? Things change. He stepped over as line. > Do you even know what a > friend is beyond the dictionary definition? Do you? >> Btw, my friends know they can speak for themselves. They sure don't need > you >> to do it for them. > > I am doing no such thing. They are speaking for themselves and in this > thread. You are just in too deep a level of denial to see it. Then how was it that I conversed with them on the topics? Hmm, you missed that part quite well. >> >> >> >>But then they're not calling anyone else names, are they? Making > fun [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > Sorry Budd, there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming > from YOU! In your bigoted opinion. >> >> >> > 2. stop bringing it up on a public news group. do you realise > that [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Is this the laugh of ignorance I see??? No, just laughing heartily at a small joke. >> > There are some in here with a >> > sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Of course not, talk about twist and spin. The difference is that if you > don't have much to lose, there is not much risk either. I'd still like to know how you know my total worth. Might be a legal issue. >> I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation > shows [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wouldn't it? And here comes the denial since it is far more wide spread > than you would care to believe. Prime reason for ID theft: money. That outweighs the rest by several times. My bank gets notified if I'm leaving town or making a large purchase and will be using a debit card. The credit card company's get the same notification. It's easy, and it protects me. Everything else is replaceable / repairable. >> Btw, your phrasing, once again, says you consider yourself to be better > than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > this international NG. Perhaps you have a lot of money packed away > somewhere and I hope that you do for your sake alone. The point is, Tom, your phrasing could get you in deep legal trouble. Besides, your legal name is as well known as your screen name. If you are going to be struck again, it will happen. You're too well known. So the paranoia would be yours. >> >> >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that >> >> >> it's [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Like I said, you can't and there are still no examples, imagine that. Like I said, you keep writing fresh ones, I don't need to. I'm sure they'll continue as long as you post anything regarding me. >> >> >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take >> >> > delight [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lets see some examples. I'm still waiting on your 250 proofs . . . . . >> >> >> Yes, at one time, I considered your's and Tom's remarks to be > teases, [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > best > of you again. Again you prove me right, thank you. >> >> Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just > so [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And what would that be Budd, the real truth or your imagined one? Would you know it if it bit you? SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >>> I don't hate you, there's nothing to hate. . . . . . . >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >understand? Do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world? Can I not >do the same in a virtual world? stop reading what he writes then. it is very simple. you run around reading every post he writes, then scream for him to leave you alone. now, i don't care who you are, that is funny. >> You didn't say not anyone else, >> you named us specifically. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Things change. He stepped over as line. darn. i tried to walk the line. i really did. i tried to speak to you with some good advise while walking the line. speaking of that, i love johny cash and can't wait to see that movie. >> Do you even know what a >> friend is beyond the dictionary definition? > >Do you? >>> Spin, twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know? >> >> Sorry Budd, there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming >> from YOU! > >In your bigoted opinion. holy cow. coming from almost anyone but you i could understand. but man, them is fightin words considering the source. just kiddin, not actually fighting words, but they are very funny. >>> ROTFLMBO!!!!!! >> >> Is this the laugh of ignorance I see??? > >No, just laughing heartily at a small joke. that is good. laughter is good. most of the time. >>> > There are some in here with a >>> > sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >I'd still like to know how you know my total worth. Might be a legal issue. uh oh, budd is talking l e g a l i t y again. look out, if he doesn't have you arrested for his definition of internet harassment, he is gonna sue you for figuring out that he don't have a pot to piss in. just kiddin again budd. >>> I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation >> shows [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Prime reason for ID theft: money. That outweighs the rest by several times. true. normally to buy drugs...........they sort of go hand in hand with those folks.........but i would agree that it is money. >My bank gets notified if I'm leaving town or making a large purchase and >will be using a debit card. The credit card company's get the same [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >The point is, Tom, your phrasing could get you in deep legal trouble. the point is that you are literally blowing wind out your a.s. this is beyond stupid. it is beyond a normal udd exageration. what he said would not get him in an once of trouble. in fact, put up this time. go see an attorney. lets see you sue.. better yet, call the internet cops and show them the thread. tell them to haul tom off to the jail. i want to see this one. you keep going in deeper and deeper. gads. >Besides, your legal name is as well known as your screen name. If you are >going to be struck again, it will happen. You're too well known. So the >paranoia would be yours. >>> Don't have define anything, your phrasing is rank with it today. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> teases. >>> It's socially unacceptable and bigotous), or just the plain name calling? >I'm sorry, what part of "you're not a friend so leave me alone" don't you >understand? Do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world? Can I not >do the same in a virtual world? HINT: read what YOU just said.... try choosing not to speak to them, Budd.. it might even make you appear a bit more rational... If people bother you, kill file or block them, or just don't read their posts... Or, you can continue having these silly tantrums in public and continue embarrassing yourself... and those of us that are embarrassed for you.. Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm > On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:26:09 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom > SPAM.net> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > HINT: read what YOU just said.... I did read it a couple times before posting it, Mac. > try choosing not to speak to them, Budd.. it might even make you appear a > bit > more rational... I'm trying to get them to give me the same respect they want, that's all. > If people bother you, kill file or block them, or just don't read their > posts... > > Or, you can continue having these silly tantrums in public and continue > embarrassing yourself... and those of us that are embarrassed for you.. Mac, I do appreciate your advice. I'm sorry it embarrasses you and the others. It embarrasses me as well because I ask no more than they ask for themselves, to be respected for who they are, and they cannot do it. I'm ashamed there are such individuals in this world with all the communication available. I will try to ignore them in the future. My friends are more important to me than my enemies, though I would rather have all friends and no enemies. Budd > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:26:09 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom > > SPAM.net> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I'm trying to get them to give me the same respect they want, that's all. Complete BS. Respect earns respect and you have yet to offer any. > > If people bother you, kill file or block them, or just don't read their > > posts... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Mac, I do appreciate your advice. I'm sorry it embarrasses you and the > others. Gee, it looks like I was right about that after all. > It embarrasses me as well because I ask no more than they ask for > themselves, to be respected for who they are, and they cannot do it. Oh really, and saying that I am insignificant shows any respect, how???? > I'm ashamed there are such individuals in this world with all the communication > available. And don't forget to count yourself as one of us Budd. > I will try to ignore them in the future. My friends are more important to me > than my enemies, though I would rather have all friends and no enemies. Just another lie. You are the one that makes your enemies. Theguy has done nothing to you and yet you call him one for no valid reason. Why is that Budd? Even I have tried multiple times to put an end to these childish actions but when you reply, it is always with some type of insult and if I reply in kind, then you whine and cry again that I'm insulting you. If you want only friends, then the first step has to start with you. Lets see if that ever happens. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > >> I don't hate you, there's nothing to hate. . . . . . . > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > understand? Do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world? Can I not > do the same in a virtual world? Sure you can Budd, by ignoring the people that you don't want to hear from and not replying every chance you get, just like in the real world. > > You didn't say not anyone else, > > you named us specifically. > > Yes, that is true. Like I said, there is NOTHING to hate. You are > insignificant. If this is so, why do you keep replying? > > The funny thing is not all that long ago you > > were calling theguy a friend. What happened Budd? > > Things change. He stepped over as line. In what way? By not agreeing with you on every issue? Like I said, you have no clue what friend really means. > > Do you even know what a > > friend is beyond the dictionary definition? > > Do you? Yep, but this is not an answer to the question. > >> Btw, my friends know they can speak for themselves. They sure don't need > > you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Then how was it that I conversed with them on the topics? Hmm, you missed > that part quite well. No, you pretty much ignored what they had to say and just went about justifying your actions. > >> > Once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and BTW, > >> > this [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > In your bigoted opinion. Bigoted opinion, LOL, where do you come up with this stuff? > >> > There are some in here with a > >> > sufficiently low enough noise level such as Tom L and Mac that can use [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I'd still like to know how you know my total worth. Might be a legal issue. I don't and it isn't. I gave no actual number or any personal information that you did not post yourself. > >> I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation > > shows [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Prime reason for ID theft: money. That outweighs the rest by several times. Yes it does and many times you have claimed that you are on disability do to your health and that Medicade does not fully cover your medications. You have also stated many times the size and location of your home and your description does not indicate a huge estate. As you say, the primary reason for ID theft is Money and you have indicated many times that you are not a good target for that so as I said, your risk level is several times lower. > My bank gets notified if I'm leaving town or making a large purchase and > will be using a debit card. The credit card company's get the same > notification. It's easy, and it protects me. It really doesn't. Unless your credit rating is quite low, with the proper information someone could apply for and get another credit card with your name on it and max it out before you knew anything about it. > Everything else is replaceable / repairable. Sure it is but why go through the trouble or put yourself at an unnecessary risk when it is easily avoided. > >> Btw, your phrasing, once again, says you consider yourself to be better > > than [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The point is, Tom, your phrasing could get you in deep legal trouble. It could do no such thing. I have given no actual information at all. > Besides, your legal name is as well known as your screen name. If you are > going to be struck again, it will happen. You're too well known. So the > paranoia would be yours. If someone is determined to find my name, I'm sure that they could but why go throught the hassle when there are so many others using there full names and then again, are you sure that the name you know is actually mine. > >> >> >> Yes, I know that if I tell a friend about a health problem that > >> >> >> it's [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Like I said, you keep writing fresh ones, I don't need to. I'm sure they'll > continue as long as you post anything regarding me. If this were true, then all you would need to do is cut and paste and you can't seem to do that either. > >> >> >> Fair Game??? To whom? It woild only be fair game to those that take > >> >> > delight [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I'm still waiting on your 250 proofs . . . . . I am still waiting on the list of the top 10 or even the most recent 10 on your list of 250. I guess that this is just another one of your fale accusations and lies. > >> >> Of course, to you, defending oneself is what you call "whining", just > > so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Would you know it if it bit you? This does not answer the question, imagine that. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> > You really need to get you accusations in order. >> >> And you just need to admit to the truth. > > And what would that be Budd, the real truth or your imagined one? I guess it would be too obvious if I suggested that Budd is loving this as much as you and theguy? Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm > >> > You really need to get you accusations in order. > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I guess it would be too obvious if I suggested that Budd is loving this as much > as you and theguy? Of course he is, probably much more so. I just made a simple joke in the hopes of lightening up things between us. I really didn't expect this. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >>> >> > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" >>> >> > <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 160 lines] >really believe that ID theives strike only those with "something to >lose"?????? now you are quoting the bible to support an argument on a ng with a guy named tbone. ok budd, that is perfectly normal, perfectly healthy. NOT. >I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation shows >it to be far less rampant than you fear. [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > >And you just need to admit to the truth. > >>> >> > On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:09:54 -0700, "Budd Cochran" > >>> >> > <mr-d150@preciscom [quoted text clipped - 165 lines] > > ok budd, that is perfectly normal, perfectly healthy. NOT. LOL, now I have to remember not to read your replies to Budd while drinking coffee, dangnabit! > >I am at as much risk as anybody, but a little internet invesrtigation shows > >it to be far less rampant than you fear. [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > >And you just need to admit to the truth. > On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:41:13 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ok budd, that is perfectly normal, perfectly healthy. NOT. According to an unaccredited, amateur psychologist. The quote fit the point being made, so you object to the source? And you claim to have never bashed my religious beliefs. "Thou Viper!!! Hypocrite!!!!!!" (Jesus of Nazareth, Book of Matthew, Holy Bible) SignatureBudd Cochran Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:41:13 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >my religious beliefs. "Thou Viper!!! Hypocrite!!!!!!" (Jesus of Nazareth, >Book of Matthew, Holy Bible) budd, thank you. i have not had this good a laugh in this ng for a long time. wow! >> now you are quoting the bible to support an argument on a ng with a >> guy named tbone. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >my religious beliefs. "Thou Viper!!! Hypocrite!!!!!!" (Jesus of Nazareth, >Book of Matthew, Holy Bible) Wow... Now, commenting that you quoted the bible is bashing your religious beliefs? THis might break a previous record... What are you going to find offensive next, Budd.. the type font he uses???? You're not paranoid, Budd... the world IS out to get you... *roflmbo* Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm >>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > physical limitations, aches and pains, reported their health condition to > friends when asked. Budd, it was a joke, not a original one, but still a joke. Try taking it for that and letting it go. If I managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. (Shut the f.ck up Denny, mac et al) How'd you do it? Roy >>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all behind >>>>> you. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Roy Roy, In spite of our differences, and maybe because of them, I do consider you to be a friend and I appreciate the advice. Thank you. However, "T-Bone" and "theguy" are not friends as they continue to prove daily. So, I can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. I would not ask them to do so, it is their choice in the end. I'll probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two, but here it is: As a Type 2 Diabetic, diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. For example, normal Blood Glucose ( BG's, Denny, not BS. I measure my BG's) ranges from 85-120. Diabetes is when your body, because of lack of insulin ( Type 1) or inability to process insulin ( Type 2) cannot deliver glucose to your cells, so it goes into fat. And if your BG's go over 140, for example, your body stops healing itself and, yes, that can be deadly. When I was diagnosed, my BG's were in the high 600's. I should have been in a coma. I watch what I eat these days, but more importantly, I watch how much. I'm heavy into proteins (meats and lentils, but not the Atkins' Diet) and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. Heart health and Diabetes have strong links as well, since LDL Cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then HDL Cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. I use Splenda (I'm allergic to all the others) in place of 90% of my sugar. Some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable, so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. Dietary fiber is a carbohydrate, but an indigestible carb. You subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. I consume about 2000 calories a day now or less, as compared to 6000+ three years ago. Then I exercise as much as time, weather, and general aches and pains allow. I am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long I can be outside (no garage, just an awning type carport). I walk as much as I can and my younger brother and I go fishing, which means long walks around the lake ( about 40 acres surface area) between stops for vigorous fishing (caught 6 Rainbows yesterday, largest about 3 pounds). The point is you don't need Tai-Bo, or Bowflex or anything, just get out and do something. Keep busy. The 50 pounds lost isn't quite right. When I was diagnosed, I weighed 307 pounds. I weighed myself yesterday ( I get my weight only a couple times a week) at 249. By summers end, I'm shooting for 210. This morning, my Glucose was low enough to give myself a treat: toaster waffles with butter and 2 tablespoons of real Mrs. Butterworth's syrup, two eggs (over easy, please), and two strips of bacon. Yes, it was way over my limit of 45 carbs for breakfast, but lunch is almost always under on carbs (45 allowed, I'll probably have 20-30). My normal breakfast, two eggs, two slices of toast, coffee / milk / Splenda, comes to 25-27 carbs. Email me if you have any questions. That goes for anyone. I'm not an expert, but I've learned an awful lot in two years. Budd >>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>> behind you. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > In spite of our differences, and maybe because of them, I do consider you > to be a friend and I appreciate the advice. Thank you. It is the grouchy old men thing. > However, "T-Bone" and "theguy" are not friends as they continue to prove > daily. So, I can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as > good advice. I would not ask them to do so, it is their choice in the end. When I see a <G>,<BG>,<GBG>,<GBFG>, <GBMFG>, or anything along those lines I figure what has been written has been done so in jest. No matter who writes it. > I'll probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two, > but here it is: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > LDL Cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process > and then HDL Cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. Sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. I tried a modified Akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep I needed all the carbs and caffiene. Now, this year as I've aged a bit I find that if I knock of the junk food, snack stuff and the crap that you know isn't really good for you I can at least maintain. (Boy, I can picture Denny and mac all over this. Friggin' jackals). Also as I get older I find that my appetite isn't what it was few years ago. > I use Splenda (I'm allergic to all the others) in place of 90% of my > sugar. Some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable, so read the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > largest about 3 pounds). The point is you don't need Tai-Bo, or Bowflex or > anything, just get out and do something. Keep busy. Exercise! Yup, that is the thing. I can't stay on a tread mill, I'm bored to tears in about 5 minutes. Around here from Nov. to April I don't want to be out walking around freezeing my a.s off. Friends of mine that work inside all year think it is the the balls to go for a 2 mile walk when it is 10 above. I work outside all year, the last friggin thing I want to do is spend more time outside in the damn cold. Actually it has gotton to the point that when I can retire in about 13 months I'm thinking really hard about moving to Florida. At least there you can venture outside in the winter. In fact I had this house appraised Sat. so I'd know where the hell I was as to market value. Problem is that my wife is 10 years younger and will have to come up with a teaching job in Fla. Also My mother would have to be moved from the assisted liveing that she is in and I would have to get her into one down there. I'm sure it is all doable. > The 50 pounds lost isn't quite right. When I was diagnosed, I weighed 307 > pounds. I weighed myself yesterday ( I get my weight only a couple times a > week) at 249. By summers end, I'm shooting for 210. Seems that you shoul make it.. You have a program going that appears to work well for you. Congratulations. Roy >>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>> behind you. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > It is the grouchy old men thing. Well, quit being an old grouch, then. <VBG> >> However, "T-Bone" and "theguy" are not friends as they continue to prove >> daily. So, I can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > lines I figure what has been written has been done so in jest. No matter > who writes it. Sorry, Roy, but from those two, those acronyms mean nothing to me based on their past treatments of me. It's like back when we were kids, if I punched you on the shoulder everytime I walked by, you would be surprised and cautious if I didn't punch your shoulder. >> I'll probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two, >> but here it is: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Also as I get older I find that my appetite isn't what it was few years > ago. From talking with other Diabetics and my doctor, it's just eating like we should have a long time ago. Type-2 Diabetes, otoh, shows strong signs of being genetic and a major cause of heart diseases, which signs are also surfacing that those are genetic as well. >> I use Splenda (I'm allergic to all the others) in place of 90% of my >> sugar. Some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable, so read [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Roy Thanks. I'm not a quitter, but I may suffer a "setback" or two on the way. I did have a little discouragement back when I was first diagnosed and it was added on top of all the rest of my health issues, but I'm back on my feet and doing the best I can. 210 is what I weighed at my best strength back at age 35. At that time, I could walk off with a crosstie on each shoulder. Since you're a railroader, you probably know what a pair of them with most of their creosote weigh. In case you're wondering, I was setting up a mobile home on a grid work of ties and concrete blocks to keep it from settling in the Adobe` clay soil. Budd On 2/26/06 12:01 PM, in article OvqdnRWGo-10cZzZRVn-jg@comcast.com, "Roy" >>>>>>> Don't worry Budd, you don't have to look for them, they are all >>>>>>> behind you. [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > months I'm thinking really hard about moving to Florida. At least there you > can venture outside in the winter. Sure Roy, you'll be getting your eyeballs excercised when you are out on those nude beaches :))) dale > On 2/26/06 12:01 PM, in article OvqdnRWGo-10cZzZRVn-jg@comcast.com, "Roy" > [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] > Sure Roy, you'll be getting your eyeballs excercised when you are out on > those nude beaches :))) Now there is a visual foks could probably do without. <BFG> Roy > dale |
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