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itsmyfallt@gmail.com - 02 Mar 2006 04:58 GMT
I am going to be tinting my front windows on my 97 Dak to match my back
ones, and to make it easier, i wish to remove the window while i do
this, unfortunately, i have no idea how to get the damn things out.
anyone done this before?
Budd Cochran - 02 Mar 2006 13:04 GMT
Check your local laws first. Here in UT, for example, very little non-oem
tint is allowed on door windows for the front seat area.

Then there's the wisdom of it; try riding with a friend ( let them drive,
please) on a pitch black night wearing a set of sunglasses about the shade
of the tint you want. You'll be amazed at what you cannot see.

I had all four headlights on bright one night in CO on my 68 Fury and a car
with limo tint on all side and back windows pulled right out in front of me.
It was a good think I didn't have any tinted windows . . . . .

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>I am going to be tinting my front windows on my 97 Dak to match my back
> ones, and to make it easier, i wish to remove the window while i do
> this, unfortunately, i have no idea how to get the damn things out.
> anyone done this before?
Licker - 02 Mar 2006 14:09 GMT
itsmyfallt@gmail.com> wrote in message: "I am going to be tinting my front
windows on my 97 Dak to match my back ones, and to make it easier, I wish to
remove the window while I do this, unfortunately, I have no idea how to get
the damn things out.  Anyone done this before?"

Why would you want to remove the window to tint it.  Not sure how dark your
rear window is but depending on the state how dark your front windows can
be.  I just had my front windows retinted since the original tint was legal
at the time but the state I live in lowered the max blockage of light you
can have.  My original tint was 65% blockage and the new tint is 45%
blockage.  I still have to roll down the windows to back up at night with
the tint on the windows.

I paid to have mine done at a tint shop since I can get a lifetime warranty.
They put the tint so close to the edge of the window you don't even notice
the split between the door frame and the window.  So why take the window out
to tint it?

Sarge
mac davis - 02 Mar 2006 15:40 GMT
>I am going to be tinting my front windows on my 97 Dak to match my back
>ones, and to make it easier, i wish to remove the window while i do
>this, unfortunately, i have no idea how to get the damn things out.
>anyone done this before?

I don't know how the window comes out, but I wonder about the wisdom of tinting
a front window...

Also, as someone who's pulled over a car with tinted windows at night, I'd want
to see how the local police feel about the tint thing first...
Safety says that the less a cop can see of the driver, the more steps he takes
to stay alive...
Just a personal thing, but I'd rather have a semi-relaxed cop approaching my
truck than one that's creeping up with his weapon ready.. YMWV

Mac

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Budd Cochran - 02 Mar 2006 19:55 GMT
Heck, Mac, I had that happen to me long before window tinting . . .My crime?
I hadn't been drafted yet ( hardships deferment to care for my ailing
mother), and the county sheriff thought I should be in Vietnam regardless of
my mother's health.

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>>I am going to be tinting my front windows on my 97 Dak to match my back
>>ones, and to make it easier, i wish to remove the window while i do
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Rachel Easson - 03 Mar 2006 03:41 GMT
> Heck, Mac, I had that happen to me long before window tinting . . .My crime?
> I hadn't been drafted yet ( hardships deferment to care for my ailing
> mother), and the county sheriff thought I should be in Vietnam regardless of
> my mother's health.

I heard up here in canada that a lot of young American guys got drafted
just because they smoked a bit of weed -- go to jail or vietnam. Just
curious if true. I hard if you looked at one of them the wrong way that
was enough. And just so you know you guys have a lot of respect her
north of the border
rach

p.s.  I would just be happy finding a windshield without a crack in an
older dakota -- all mine have cracked windshields
Budd Cochran - 03 Mar 2006 15:17 GMT
I tried weed back in 68 and, to be honest, I got more buzz off a couple
beers. Never smoked it again. In 69, I joined the military.

My only crime was not being in Vietnam, that I can tell. I spoke with the
deputy (Jim Cisco, a friend of mine) that was with the Sheriff that night a
few days later and he couldn't understand why I was pulled over.

I had passed the patrol car a couple miles earlier after it pulled out in
front of me. I had been, at the time legally, in the inside lane of a four
lane highway getting ready to turn left into the roller skating rink when he
pulled out from a road on the left. I signaled, changed lanes because he was
going very slow, then signaled and changed back to the inside lane for the
turn, covering over a mile in the time being (speed about 45).

He hit the gumball lights just as I had began the turn into the crossover. I
went to pull to the shoulder instead blocking traffic and the gun came out.
He threatened to fill the car full of lead if I didn't back up. I heard an
air horn as a semi was now getting closer, so I hit reverse and punched it.

Where he broke the law was in demanding to see my draft card. That's when he
read me a riot act about not being in Vietnam. Since I had not broken any
driving laws, he had no reason to pull me over except to harass me.

So, I contacted friends and family and the next year he lost the election by
a landslide.

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>> Heck, Mac, I had that happen to me long before window tinting . . .My
>> crime? I hadn't been drafted yet ( hardships deferment to care for my
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> p.s.  I would just be happy finding a windshield without a crack in an
> older dakota -- all mine have cracked windshields
Rachel Easson - 04 Mar 2006 03:36 GMT
> I tried weed back in 68 and, to be honest, I got more buzz off a couple
> beers. Never smoked it again. In 69, I joined the military.
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> So, I contacted friends and family and the next year he lost the election by
> a landslide.

Sorry but I would have the urge to shoot him in your 2nd paragraph
Budd Cochran - 04 Mar 2006 13:46 GMT
And become a cop killer???? No way.

Only if he shot first and I could prove, without doubt, he was in the wrong,
and that would have required Deputy Cisco's testimony.

That Sheriff had been hassling anyone under 30 for four years and had won
election on a claim of fairness / impartiality. The only young people that
got by with anything was his own kids.  Yes, crime was down a bit, but the
next Sheriff made a bigger impact by being tough on everybody . . . .he
wrote up the head of the county government for DUI.

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>> I tried weed back in 68 and, to be honest, I got more buzz off a couple
>> beers. Never smoked it again. In 69, I joined the military.
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>>
> Sorry but I would have the urge to shoot him in your 2nd paragraph
mac davis - 03 Mar 2006 16:29 GMT
>Heck, Mac, I had that happen to me long before window tinting . . .My crime?
>I hadn't been drafted yet ( hardships deferment to care for my ailing
>mother), and the county sheriff thought I should be in Vietnam regardless of
>my mother's health.

probably didn't make a difference, Budd...

I got a ticket for "not making a complete stop" at a stop sign the first night
home from Nam...
The cop saw my expired license, a copy of my discharge showing that I could
legally drive and told me that he admired the folks in nam... then wrote the
ticket.. *g*

Mac

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Budd Cochran - 03 Mar 2006 19:08 GMT
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
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>
> Mac

In your case, the officer had to do his job regardless of his personal
feelings, though I see "California Stops" all the time, even in UT.

In my case, the Sheriff had NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to ask for my draft card
without a Federal Court warrant, as I found out from the deputy  that
weekend and from a JAG officer I had the pleasure of escorting (ok, I was
his jeep driver) a couple years later. He could have ended up in Fed prison.

As it turned out, the county got a new Sheriff that wasn't biased against
young people or thought God should have asked him for advice.

Budd
Rachel Easson - 04 Mar 2006 03:38 GMT
>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
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Love to know why the folks with the badges didn't just recruit
themselves...but no, of course not
Budd Cochran - 04 Mar 2006 13:58 GMT
>>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
>>> SPAM.net>
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> Love to know why the folks with the badges didn't just recruit
> themselves...but no, of course not

The Sheriff was an ex- Marine or Army, I'm not sure which, ( Relax guys, I
know all Marines aren't quite that bad . . .Not quite <BG>) from then Korean
conflict and maybe the tail end of World War 2. He just had the opinion that
any young male not in the military was a draft dodger. Proven reasons meant
nothing to him, he wanted every male under 40 to be cannon fodder in
Vietnam.

By the time my mother went into remission, I'd decided 'Nam wasn't going to
be fought with the intention of winning, so I went National Guard. I don't
know if Canada has a reserve military force ( citizen / soldiers) or not,
military companies that meet once a month for training "just in case", but
that what I went with. Part of the decision was based on what a cousin told
me after a trip back from 'Nam as a rescue pilot,. I had just helped him out
of a rosebush after a car backfired and he told me not to go to 'Nam if I
could avoid it. So, unlike Bill Clinton, I stayed in the U.S. and stayed out
of the draft legally.

Budd
TBone - 05 Mar 2006 15:49 GMT
> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
> >>> SPAM.net>
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> could avoid it. So, unlike Bill Clinton, I stayed in the U.S. and stayed out
> of the draft legally.

Ok Budd, now you have me confused.  First you claimed that you could not
join the Army because of an existing medical condition.  Now you are
claiming that you initially didn't join to take care of your mother and then
later choose not to join because of the situation and decided to hide in the
NG instead like your buddy Bush.  So tell me Budd, which one is it?

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Budd Cochran - 06 Mar 2006 00:19 GMT
>> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
>> >>> SPAM.net>
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>
> Ok Budd, now you have me confused.

Doesn't take much to do it, does it?

> First you claimed that you could not
> join the Army because of an existing medical condition.

No, your selective memory is kicking your butt for you. My youngest had the
medical condition that prevent joining the Army, I had Polio and recovered
from it.

>  Now you are
> claiming that you initially didn't join to take care of your mother

No, the draft board said I couldn't join because they agreed she needed me
to provide income for her.

> and then
> later choose not to join because of the situation

True, I did not agree with the Democrat agenda to try and contain the North
Vietnamese, so, instead of becoming cannon fodder for the Democrats, I
joined the National Guard. Now, before you conveniently forget again, at the
time, the Indiana National Guard Corps of Engineer Battalion was averaging,
per company only 60% of TO&E strength, that's the level needed to qualify
for activation if needed. When the Battalion achieved full strength, in 72,
we were notified we could be activated if needed, so, yes, Tom, I could have
been in Vietnam anyway, unlike Clinton who was hiding overseas and defaming
the US in general.

> and decided to hide in the
> NG instead like your buddy Bush.  So tell me Budd, which one is it?

Well, unlike your god, Clinton, I stayed in the USA and I served my country
as I chose. Hide? That's your bigotry speaking, isn't it? Unlike Clinton,
Bush is not a draft dodger, he joined a recognized branch of the US
military. Also unlike Clinton, Bush is more qualified to lead our military
and our country because he is not a traitor.

Now, before you make this into another argument thread, stuff it. I've
explained this to you for the last time . . .again. Do try to remember it
for more than 2 seconds. I suggest you print it out.

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TBone - 07 Mar 2006 05:19 GMT
> >> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom
> >> >>> SPAM.net>
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>
> Doesn't take much to do it, does it?

Not with you Budd.  You change your story so fast that I cannot keep up.

> > First you claimed that you could not
> > join the Army because of an existing medical condition.
>
> No, your selective memory is kicking your butt for you. My youngest had the
> medical condition that prevent joining the Army, I had Polio and recovered
> from it.

Yes, and you said that even though you recovered, you were unable to pass
the physical.

> >  Now you are
> > claiming that you initially didn't join to take care of your mother
>
> No, the draft board said I couldn't join because they agreed she needed me
> to provide income for her.

During war time, yea right.

> > and then
> > later choose not to join because of the situation
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> been in Vietnam anyway, unlike Clinton who was hiding overseas and defaming
> the US in general.

You really are a bitter man Budd.  Even if your unit was activated, that
does not mean that you would go.  Funny how when a Republican is in charge,
it is the American duty to follow, even if you don't agree but when a
Democrat is in charge, then it is ok to run and hide. A bit of a double
standard there.

> > and decided to hide in the
> > NG instead like your buddy Bush.  So tell me Budd, which one is it?
>
> Well, unlike your god, Clinton, I stayed in the USA and I served my country
> as I chose. Hide? That's your bigotry speaking, isn't it?

The only bigot in this discussion here Budd is you and yea, if you joined
the guard to get out of being drafted, then you ran aweay and hid.

> Unlike Clinton, Bush is not a draft dodger, he joined a recognized branch
of the US
> military. Also unlike Clinton, Bush is more qualified to lead our military
> and our country because he is not a traitor.

Sure he is.  He is a deserter.  More concerned campaigning for the old man
then defending his country or even completing his service.

> Now, before you make this into another argument thread, stuff it. I've
> explained this to you for the last time . . .again. Do try to remember it
> for more than 2 seconds. I suggest you print it out.

Well, as you have proven yourself a liar in the birthday thread, it is
pointless to continue but perhaps you should just answer an honest question
instead of making a childish attack.

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Budd Cochran - 07 Mar 2006 15:08 GMT
>> >> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:55:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran"
> <mr-d150@preciscom
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>
> Not with you Budd.  You change your story so fast that I cannot keep up.

It has always been the same, it's your memory that changing, for the worse.

>> > First you claimed that you could not
>> > join the Army because of an existing medical condition.
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> Yes, and you said that even though you recovered, you were unable to pass
> the physical.

Then how did I get in? The Reserves / National Guard forces have the same
physical standards as the regular military.

>> >  Now you are
>> > claiming that you initially didn't join to take care of your mother
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>
> During war time, yea right.

Ya know, Tom, it's really none of your business about my military service,
even more so that it was none of the Sheriff's business. The fact that I am
unashamed of my military service is the reason I am willing to give you or
anyone ANY response at all.

Btw, the Local Draft Board, made up of bipartisan, prominent citizens of
Johnson Co. Indiana, made the determination that I needed to stay home based
on evidence presented by my mother and her doctors. I was never interviewed
or anything, therefore, I was not dodging the draft. I was the eldest child
in the home, all my sisters and kid brother were still in school. Now, who
else would have been able to go to work full time to provide for a family of
five? Should I have left them to fend for themselves?

Tom, have you ever, and aparently, never, considered there is always a
percentage of souls on the front lines in battles that while they are doing
the job they've been ordered to do, don't agree with the reasons for the
wars they are fighting? I've known several, from 'Nam, WWII, Korea, and even
my step-dad in WWI. But they put others and their own country ahead of
themselves.

>> > and then
>> > later choose not to join because of the situation
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>
> You really are a bitter man Budd.

You must get some sort of gratification from that phrase . . .

>  Even if your unit was activated, that
> does not mean that you would go.

And your proof is? Do you have access to top secret documents from the
Indiana National Guard and Reserves?

>  Funny how when a Republican is in charge,
> it is the American duty to follow, even if you don't agree but when a
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> The only bigot in this discussion here Budd is you and yea, if you joined
> the guard to get out of being drafted, then you ran aweay and hid.

So, tell us again, Tom, what branch of the military did you serve in? We
already know you put your biases before serving your country.

>> Unlike Clinton, Bush is not a draft dodger, he joined a recognized branch
> of the US
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> Sure he is.  He is a deserter.  More concerned campaigning for the old man
> then defending his country or even completing his service.

So, Co. D, 151st Airborn Rangers is made up of "draft dodgers"?

http://www.75thrra.com/history/d151-his.php

Their unit was next door to mine after they returned from 'Nam. For your
information, most of the prior service personel in my unit, and probably
most guard units, were 'Nam vets. Guess what, Tom? If any of those units had
bee activated to'Nam, their butts would have been back over there.

Yeah, you're blowing out your butt again to start an argument.

>> Now, before you make this into another argument thread, stuff it. I've
>> explained this to you for the last time . . .again. Do try to remember it
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> question
> instead of making a childish attack.

I did answer your childish, or possibly it's early onset senility, question,
and you as usual are trying to make an argument out of it. Go for it . .
.you're just arguing yourself into a hole. My military service records are
on file with the records of all guardsmen, in Indianapolis IN, and in the
military Archives in D.C. I have two honorable discharges (Colorado [I
finished my IN enlistment in CO on a transfer, before you twist this around]
and Utah). How many honorable military discharges do you have?

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