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hoisting 400 cc engine out of 4x4 ram on 32" tires in 30 inches of snow

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Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 01:05 GMT
Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!

Do you have any suggestions you think might help -- willing to rent the
available equipment of course -- sold the 400 cc but guy prefers it be
pulled out and delivered and is willing to pay for it

I had been thinking of an engine hoist but it would have to stand on 3/4
plywood on top of some cement blocks -- all possible and supplies on
hand except the hoist.

Any other ideas?

Also, likely to snowblow 100 feet up to the truck and drive in with 4x4
so whatever you can suggest is appreciated.

thanks in advance

rachel
Nosey - 15 Mar 2006 01:28 GMT
> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
> rachel

Couldn't you just ask someone to help lift it? They are a bit akward but
they aren't too heavy. I lifted a few 400/440 cc Kawasaki engines by myself
without any struggle. It wasn't in any snow but that shouldn't make it any
heavier.
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Ken

Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 01:48 GMT
>> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>>
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> without any struggle. It wasn't in any snow but that shouldn't make it any
> heavier.
Can you come help pleeeeeease ;-) (just kiddin')
Budd Cochran - 15 Mar 2006 02:27 GMT
>>> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>>>
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>> make it any heavier.
> Can you come help pleeeeeease ;-) (just kiddin')

I'd dig out all the snow and then lay the plywood down, just to keep it from
sinking. Plywood on blocks would be too unstable and it would probably not
hold all that weight: 600 lb / 272.1554 Kg. plus the weight of the hoist.

A auto reclaimer yard back in Indiana used a cut down engine hoist ( cherry
picker) bolted to the frame of a pickup as his way of pulling engines in the
yard. Now they have those in-bed hoists that lift up to 1/2 ton.

Work safe, Rach, ya gotta good kid and friends that needs ya.

Budd
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 03:18 GMT
> I'd dig out all the snow and then lay the plywood down, just to keep it from
> sinking. Plywood on blocks would be too unstable and it would probably not
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> picker) bolted to the frame of a pickup as his way of pulling engines in the
> yard. Now they have those in-bed hoists that lift up to 1/2 ton.

Thanks -- good idea -- I'll ask around -- with who lives up here this
time of year...
Budd Cochran - 15 Mar 2006 16:12 GMT
Just think of your safety, milady, I'd hate to lose a friend.

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>> I'd dig out all the snow and then lay the plywood down, just to keep it
>> from sinking. Plywood on blocks would be too unstable and it would
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> Thanks -- good idea -- I'll ask around -- with who lives up here this time
> of year...
Budd Cochran - 15 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT
Ken,

I think there's a "translation" error from Canadian English to US English .
. .In an email, Rach was talking about a 400 _CU.IN._ engine. . . .about 600
lbs.

Sorry, Rach. Just trying to act as a translator fer ya'll. 400 cu in =
6554.826 C.C.

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Budd Cochran

>> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>>
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> myself without any struggle. It wasn't in any snow but that shouldn't make
> it any heavier.
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 03:17 GMT
> Ken,
>
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> Sorry, Rach. Just trying to act as a translator fer ya'll. 400 cu in =
> 6554.826 C.C.

Thanks Budd :-)
And no, we're in loggin' country up here but not quite that strong but I
had been thinking Ken was some burrrrly guy!
rach
Nosey - 15 Mar 2006 05:00 GMT
>> Ken,
>>
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> but I had been thinking Ken was some burrrrly guy!
> rach

When you said it was a 400 cc engine I believed you. I thought you had a
motorcycle engine in the bed of a truck and couldn't get it out. It makes
sense to me now.
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Ken

Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 19:00 GMT
>>> Ken,
>>>
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> motorcycle engine in the bed of a truck and couldn't get it out. It makes
> sense to me now.

Of course <grn> it was funny though. I don't expect you to read my mind.
rach
Max Dodge - 15 Mar 2006 02:27 GMT
First, you mean a 400 CID, not a motorcycle, but a big block, right?

Second, ditch the tires and drop the front axle on some 6x6 lumber, and the
truck suddenly becomes normal height.

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> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
> rachel
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 03:22 GMT
> First, you mean a 400 CID, not a motorcycle, but a big block, right?
yep -- sorry -- I usually refer to them simply as a 400 but wasn't sure
how to write it

> Second, ditch the tires
thankyou -- great idea -- torch to warm up -- good, it's closest to the
shed -- reef like hell
and drop the front axle on some 6x6 lumber,

forest logs nearby, sawn off on top and blocked, yep can do
and the
> truck suddenly becomes normal height.

thank you Max, and Budd -- should work this way

rach
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 03:32 GMT
> First, you mean a 400 CID, not a motorcycle, but a big block, right?
>
> Second, ditch the tires and drop the front axle on some 6x6 lumber, and the
> truck suddenly becomes normal height.

Just thinking some more -- only need to drop front end down, one 8 foot
log, shaving flat with chain saw around where wheels go, got good
hydraulic jacks of course, and if I'm warming up the bolts, I can burn
off the snow too

-- got this idea while taking my sh.t (do my best thinking on the
porcelain throne and while driving <vbgrn>) -- my Newfie friends have
told me they clear a path in the snow to the road by lighting fire to
gasoline

rach
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 03:45 GMT
<snip>

>> Second, ditch the tires and drop the front axle

> Just thinking some more -- only need to drop front end down,
> rach

yup, finally sunk in -- yes, your idea <LOL!>

had 3 beer (helped the dump but not the brain <vbmfgrn> )

rach

thanks Max!
beekeep - 15 Mar 2006 03:45 GMT
You could take it to Budds old garage and hoist it from the rafters.  You have
to have been around here for a while to understand this one.

beekeep

>Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
>rachel
TBone - 15 Mar 2006 04:51 GMT
LOL!!!

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> You could take it to Budds old garage and hoist it from the rafters.  You have
> to have been around here for a while to understand this one.
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> >
> >rachel
Budd Cochran - 15 Mar 2006 16:16 GMT
Can't do that, Greg. I drove by the place when I went with my brother to
Canon City CO to get his fishing boat and it looks like, thru the window in
the garage door, that he might have tried it, and the rafter fell down.

The bad part is, the car in the driveway was a Subaru . . . . . . . and a
riding mower with the engine halfway off . . .

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> You could take it to Budds old garage and hoist it from the rafters.  You
> have
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>>
>>rachel
beekeep - 15 Mar 2006 23:23 GMT
Maybe she will have to use the two story outhouse then!

beekeep

>Can't do that, Greg. I drove by the place when I went with my brother to
>Canon City CO to get his fishing boat and it looks like, thru the window in
>the garage door, that he might have tried it, and the rafter fell down.
>
>The bad part is, the car in the driveway was a Subaru . . . . . . . and a
>riding mower with the engine halfway off . . .
Budd Cochran - 16 Mar 2006 03:59 GMT
darnit, Greg . . now I'll have to send her a picture of it . . .and a thirty
five page explanation.

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> Maybe she will have to use the two story outhouse then!
>
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>>The bad part is, the car in the driveway was a Subaru . . . . . . . and a
>>riding mower with the engine halfway off . . .
Gary Glaenzer - 15 Mar 2006 15:58 GMT
1)  obtain log chain

2) rent or borrow truck

3) tow donor vehicle to warm shop

> Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
> rachel
Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 19:11 GMT
> 1)  obtain log chain
>
> 2) rent or borrow truck
>
> 3) tow donor vehicle to warm shop

hee hee

have chain
truck avail
nearest warm shop is a service garage -- plausible to tow illegally down
the road for 10 miles or so because no police out here within 1 hour drive
oh, and don't forget the snow blower, or backhoe if too mush for the
snow blower

Even a cold shop would do.

I did have a delightful crazy idea last summer -- I was driving beside a
railroad bridge which had three beautiful supports -- iron truss style
about 100 wide feet each, 40 feet high. Nick those, drag them behind the
truck about two hours down the road, and securely erect them on my
property and put a couple of huge canvas tarps over them in the Fall --
I'd never need to clear the yard again, and I'd have a hangar for a
garage with a built in beam to chain anything onto <maniacal grin>

seriously though, looks like we'll go with items 1 and 2 and wear warm
clothing

rach
mac davis - 15 Mar 2006 16:14 GMT
>Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
>rachel

Rachel.. Don't know if you have a "friend in the business", but when I needed
the engine pulled from a truck I bought and the truck was in a ditch behind a
barn, a friend with a tow truck lifted it out for me...

Personally, since the buyer will pay for pulling it, I'd try to find a couple of
local teenagers that work on cars and have them do it...

Age and experience makes use of youth and enthusiasm....
Mac

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Rachel Easson - 15 Mar 2006 19:17 GMT
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> Rachel.. Don't know if you have a "friend in the business", but when I needed
> the engine pulled from a truck I bought and the truck was in a ditch behind a
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> Age and experience makes use of youth and enthusiasm....
> Mac

Yep, might have to wait for spring. Unless Norm's cousin is coming out
this way sometime with her tow truck (she lives an hour away) he won't
be able to afford it -- and I was looking to get the motor out of here
asap and also help my neighbours make some money as things are tight
around here this time of year

We have one small male grade 8 student -- no burly females in high
school who'd do it either. Summer is different -- put an ad up at the
depanneur which is open for beer, wine, smokes, and fast food once the
cottagers come out of hibernation.

rach
beekeep - 15 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT
>Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
>
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>
>rachel

Ya outta be able to lift a 400 cc engine without any tools.  Hell, I put a
1000cc iron head in the sportster by myself and it has the transmission built
in.

beekeep
Christopher  Thompson - 16 Mar 2006 13:55 GMT
> >Hi all you artful dodgers with creative ideas!
> >
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>
> beekeep

she actually ment a 400ci

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beekeep - 17 Mar 2006 12:15 GMT
>> Ya outta be able to lift a 400 cc engine without any tools.  Hell, I put a
>> 1000cc iron head in the sportster by myself and it has the transmission
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>
>she actually ment a 400ci

Really?  When did Dodge stop using Briggs & Straton under the hood?

beekeep
Christopher  Thompson - 17 Mar 2006 15:39 GMT
> >> Ya outta be able to lift a 400 cc engine without any tools.  Hell, I put a
> >> 1000cc iron head in the sportster by myself and it has the transmission
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>
> beekeep

LOL

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Budd Cochran - 17 Mar 2006 16:00 GMT
When they heard you were frying transmissions for breakfast.

Touché`, friend

<VBG>

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>>> Ya outta be able to lift a 400 cc engine without any tools.  Hell, I put
>>> a
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>
> beekeep
 
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