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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2008

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Spark plug torque value for 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 Van, V8 5.2L

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sujit.nair@gmail.com - 12 Apr 2006 16:26 GMT
I am sorry for posting this again. Forgot to mention that I am looking
for
the spark plug torque value.

The Haynes manual says its 30 Ft-Lbs and it looks a bit on the higher
side to me. Can anybody who has done the job before confirm it.

Also, I am assuming 30 Ft-Lbs is without applying some anti-seize.
TBone - 12 Apr 2006 16:32 GMT
> I am sorry for posting this again. Forgot to mention that I am looking
> for
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>
> Also, I am assuming 30 Ft-Lbs is without applying some anti-seize.

Why would you make such an assumption?  If an anti-seize compound is
recommended, then that torque spec has to include it or it is simply
worthless.  30 FT-LBS is not all that high and it seems to take a hell of a
lot more than that to break the damn things free :-0

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Tom Lawrence - 13 Apr 2006 00:21 GMT
> The Haynes manual says its 30 Ft-Lbs and it looks a bit on the higher
> side to me. Can anybody who has done the job before confirm it.

25-30ft.lbs. is about right...  I go by another rule of thumb...  if the
spark plug uses a crush washer, I go finger tight plus a half-turn.  If it
uses a flat washer, go finger-tight plus 1/16 of a turn.

You can use a bit of anti-sieze if you want - but I've never found it all
that necessary...  most decent plugs will already have a coating on the
threads, and if they're changed when they're supposed to be (every 30K miles
or 2 years), siezing (in iron heads, anyway) is rarely a problem.
Over-torque 'em, or leave 'em in for 100K, and yeah...  you just might wind
up snapping them off.
miles - 13 Apr 2006 01:18 GMT
> You can use a bit of anti-sieze if you want - but I've never found it all
> that necessary.

I haven't either except in the case of aluminum heads.  Dissimilar
metals leads to galling.
Tom Lawrence - 13 Apr 2006 04:13 GMT
> I haven't either except in the case of aluminum heads.  Dissimilar metals
> leads to galling.

Without a doubt...  aluminum heads are a whole different story.  Never try
pulling plugs from a hot (or even warm) engine with aluminum heads - always
do it cold.
Zoyanot - 19 Jan 2008 22:31 GMT
30 ft-lbs pounds might be a little too much.  My book calls for 30
inch-pounds, which is about finger tight plus 1/16 of a turn.  I didn't
believe it either, but I did it anyway expecting many leaks.  Nothing bad
happened.  I was happy.

> The Haynes manual says its 30 Ft-Lbs and it looks a bit on the higher
> side to me. Can anybody who has done the job before confirm it.

25-30ft.lbs. is about right...  I go by another rule of thumb...  if the
spark plug uses a crush washer, I go finger tight plus a half-turn.  If it
uses a flat washer, go finger-tight plus 1/16 of a turn.

You can use a bit of anti-sieze if you want - but I've never found it all
that necessary...  most decent plugs will already have a coating on the
threads, and if they're changed when they're supposed to be (every 30K miles
or 2 years), siezing (in iron heads, anyway) is rarely a problem.
Over-torque 'em, or leave 'em in for 100K, and yeah...  you just might wind
up snapping them off.
Tom Lawrence - 20 Jan 2008 02:26 GMT
> 30 ft-lbs pounds might be a little too much.  My book calls for 30
> inch-pounds, which is about finger tight plus 1/16 of a turn.  I didn't
> believe it either, but I did it anyway expecting many leaks.  Nothing bad
> happened.  I was happy.

The FSM indicated 30 foot pounds (31 Newton-meters).  It has no listing in
the inch pounds column.  This is for factory plugs, which do use a crush
washer.  Perhaps you mis-read it.
Nosey - 20 Jan 2008 12:13 GMT
> The FSM indicated 30 foot pounds (31 Newton-meters).  It has no
> listing in the inch pounds column.  This is for factory plugs, which
> do use a crush washer.  Perhaps you mis-read it.

The FSM is wrong on one of those torque figures. 30 ft/lbs is about 40.7 Nm,
and 31 Nm is about 22.9 ft/lbs.
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Tom Lawrence - 21 Jan 2008 03:27 GMT
>> The FSM indicated 30 foot pounds (31 Newton-meters).  It has no
>> listing in the inch pounds column.  This is for factory plugs, which
>> do use a crush washer.  Perhaps you mis-read it.
>
> The FSM is wrong on one of those torque figures. 30 ft/lbs is about 40.7
> Nm, and 31 Nm is about 22.9 ft/lbs.

The FSM isn't wrong - I just can't type  :)  It says 41Nm.

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Nosey - 21 Jan 2008 03:56 GMT
> "Sorry about that, Chief"

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