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Intermittent problem with sudden loss of power

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rocdad - 19 Apr 2006 03:11 GMT
I am experiencing an intermittent problem with sudden loss of power and
bogging down. with my 95' Ram 1500 (318 )sometimes at sustained
freeway speeds engine suddenly loses power and runs terribly and will
run only with minimum throttle and with too much throttle will backfire
and possibly die after I pull over and wait five to ten minutes engine
will usually run perfectly again this problem can happen after five
miles or five hundred in hot or cold weather. I do not smell any gas
fumes
In fact I first had this problem in Florida and it resolved itself then
drove to California with no problem now problem is back I have replaced
EGR and control solenoid (found it melted due to contact with exhaust
system), cat converter, temp sender, and a few other sending units
checked for exhaust obstructions. I also noticed that there seems to be
a vacuum in the fuel tank when the problem occurs if I loosen fuel cap
I hear air rushing in past the cap? the cap passed the cal smog test
but I have replaced it with a new Stant replacement still get vacuum or
possibly pressure but it sounds like a vacuum is this normal could a
vacuum be forming in the tank and causing the fuel pump to be slowed or
stopped? Maybe that would explain the intermittent problem at freeway
speeds? And now just replaced Evap purge solenoid but problem remains
there are no trouble codes being generated. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated since my girlfriend lives around 300 miles away and this
could happen a couple times a trip!
More: I have now changed out crank sensor, cam sensor, rerouted wires
per tsb, new stock coil, changed out Bosch platinums with stock plugs,
changed out gas cap, bought fuel pressure gauge pressure seems fine the
problem with engine bogging down still happens after long drives at
65-70 mph I live in California and want to drive to New Orleans to help
victims my prevous post have not gotten any replies please respond it
you have any ideas.

Not sure if related but since I changed out gas cap seems like moisture
actually water accumulates in cap?
One of you guys must have an idea.
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 03:31 GMT
Could be the throttle body sensor or it needs adjustment..

>I am experiencing an intermittent problem with sudden loss of power and
> bogging down. with my 95' Ram 1500 (318 )sometimes at sustained
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> actually water accumulates in cap?
> One of you guys must have an idea.
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 05:26 GMT
PS:

You may want to read this article before you go to New Orleans to help those
"victims."
A very good read.
___________________________________________________________________

By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

What would you do?

What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to
protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others
in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the
like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second
question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city,
then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic
performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been
inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would
take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of
the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it
was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited
for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good
results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on
"racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the
government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two
demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and
beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these
two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the
dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in
America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will
end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on
government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform -
legally and practically - fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now
all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin - the black Democrat who likes to yell at
President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do
not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent
reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's
emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's
poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We
have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by
now - the photo showing 200 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How
much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor
Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution
from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with
responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New
Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We
know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black
Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States
and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within
10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have
to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three
days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into
ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New
Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's
way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive
for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty -
not their material poverty - that cost them dearly in New Orleans.
Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated - they will
only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral
corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade
into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and
success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend
on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the
Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the
Black Leadership Exploits Black America."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46440

>I am experiencing an intermittent problem with sudden loss of power and
> bogging down. with my 95' Ram 1500 (318 )sometimes at sustained
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> actually water accumulates in cap?
> One of you guys must have an idea.
TBone - 19 Apr 2006 06:29 GMT
Are you really this much of a f.cking a.shole????

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> PS:
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> > actually water accumulates in cap?
> > One of you guys must have an idea.
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 06:38 GMT
> Are you really this much of a f.cking a.shole????

Why is posting an article written by a black man being an a.shole? Are you
some racist or something?

>> PS:
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>> > actually water accumulates in cap?
>> > One of you guys must have an idea.
TBone - 19 Apr 2006 06:50 GMT
Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote it.

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> > Are you really this much of a f.cking a.shole????
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> >> > actually water accumulates in cap?
> >> > One of you guys must have an idea.
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 07:12 GMT
> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote it.

How can a person of the same race writing about his own race be a racist?
You are not making any sense.
Maybe lay off that N.O. crack

>> > Are you really this much of a f.cking a.shole????
>>
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>> >> > actually water accumulates in cap?
>> >> > One of you guys must have an idea.
TBone - 19 Apr 2006 15:12 GMT
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>
> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote it.
>
> How can a person of the same race writing about his own race be a racist?

Are you really this stupid. Oh, who am I kidding, of course you are.  Anyone
can be a racist and can be one even against their own race.  If you actually
were able to understand the crap you posted you would see that it was
written by a bitter right wing black man who happens to be discusted with
his own race and the terms he was using makes him a racist and the whole
article nothing more than bitter bullshit.  The fact that you think it is
correct or a "good read" as you put it doesn't say to much for you either.

> You are not making any sense.

Really????  Show me a definition that say's I'm wrong.

> Maybe lay off that N.O. crack

Maybe you should pull your head out of the crack of your a.s.

> >> > Are you really this much of a f.cking a.shole????
> >>
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> >> >> > actually water accumulates in cap?
> >> >> > One of you guys must have an idea.
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 16:56 GMT
>> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
> it.
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> article nothing more than bitter bullshit.  The fact that you think it is
> correct or a "good read" as you put it doesn't say to much for you either.

I happen to be from near that area and I know what he is talking about.
Telling the facts does not make one  racist, only your social conditioning
is.

>> You are not making any sense.
>
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>> >> >> > actually water accumulates in cap?
>> >> >> > One of you guys must have an idea.
TBone - 20 Apr 2006 01:47 GMT
> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
> > it.
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> Telling the facts does not make one  racist, only your social conditioning
> is.

Do you hang out in that area?  If not, then you really don't have a clue.
While I'm sure that there are a few people that fit his description, saying
that they all do because they are black is simply a racist comment, no
matter how you try and spin it.  But of course I forgot, no white people,
especially in the south, mistreat or put down the blacks, do they.  I guess
the KKK is a New England thing, LOL!

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GeekBoy - 20 Apr 2006 03:18 GMT
>> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who
> wrote
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> guess
> the KKK is a New England thing, LOL!

Yeah it is a New England thing. If I recall correctly in the 60s when the US
Supreme Court rules for busing black students into white schools, I believe
it was the white Northerners who did the rioting over the decision, not the
white south.
TBone - 20 Apr 2006 13:40 GMT
> >> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who
> > wrote
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> it was the white Northerners who did the rioting over the decision, not the
> white south.

Perhaps you should do a little research on the subject before blabbing on
about it and that was 40 years ago.  A lot changes in 40 years.  The bussing
was not just blacks, it was busing inner city kids into the subs school
systems.  Many of the people in the subs moved there to get their kids away
from the influences of the inner cities and sacrificed a lot to get there
and I don't blame them for getting pissed when after doing what they felt
they needed to do to protect their children some a.sholes then decided to
buss the very influences they tried to get away from right back where they
were.  I grew up in the north at that time, where you there?

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Roy - 20 Apr 2006 18:42 GMT
>> >> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who
>> > wrote
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> buss the very influences they tried to get away from right back where they
> were.  I grew up in the north at that time, where you there?

Not really accurate. The federal court ordered busing was kids from the
black section of Boston being bused into a white section and visa versa.
Pissed everybody off. That deal ended a few years ago.The deal to the
suburbs is, a few Boston inner city kids are bused to another city under a
agreement with whatever the city is, no kids from that city get reversed
bused to the inner city of Boston. This program continues today.

To anticipate your question, I was and continue to be there. But not for
much longer!!!!

Roy
TBone - 22 Apr 2006 15:34 GMT
> >> >> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who
> >> > wrote
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> agreement with whatever the city is, no kids from that city get reversed
> bused to the inner city of Boston. This program continues today.

My error here.  I was talking about something that happened in NJ where they
started bussing inner city kids to the subs because of over crowding which
really pissed off the people in the subs and come to think of it, the kids
being bussed were not all that happy about it either.  As for what happened
in Boston, I would be pissed as well.

> To anticipate your question, I was and continue to be there. But not for
> much longer!!!!

Are you still moving to Florida?

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Roy - 22 Apr 2006 16:13 GMT
>> >> >> >> > Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of
> who
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> happened
> in Boston, I would be pissed as well.

Man it was a horror show every week. Made no sense at all.

>> To anticipate your question, I was and continue to be there. But not for
>> much longer!!!!
>
> Are you still moving to Florida?

I'm still planing on it. Going to take a ride down the end of June and look
around a bit. Of course by then the price of diesel will be through the roof
but it is what it is. Buying there and selling are are not a problem.
Already have the equity line set up so I can deal with cash. That should put
me in a much better position to bargain. Hopefully we can find a house we
both like and the current owner wants out real bad and needs the money real
quick.
Now comes the problems, Sue is 10 years younger than me, that was no big
deal 25 years ago but has become an issue now. She has to work another 5
years here to get a pension. Or she quits here and works another 10 years in
Fl, at lower pay. She says if we find something we like, buy it, I can move
there, we will sell the current house in MA, she will move in with her
sister and makes the point that as a teacher she is off a week every other
month and has the summer off as well and will fly back and forth. Nice
gesture on her part and at first sounds like a good deal. But we have always
done everything together, from rideing atv's, going to the range, going to
races, hell going for a beer. So I don't know..... And there is my mother
who is 93 and in a assisted liveing place. I'd have to find a place for her
near where we locate and move her as well. On the other hand if Sue stayed
up here I wouldn't have to move my mother until Sue moves permantly. Nothing
that can't be worked out or resolved but a lot to think about. Anyway going
foreward with the intent of moving although it maybe at a slower pace. But
that slower pace I'm sure will speed up once we get there and look around.

Roy
Marsh Monster - 22 Apr 2006 18:27 GMT
> I'm still planing on it. Going to take a ride down the end of June and look
> around a bit. Of course by then the price of diesel will be through the roof
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>
> Roy

==========
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Roy,
  The insurance market is going to crap here, the rates are going
through
the roof for homeowners because of all the hurricanes.
   The market prices went through the roof about 3 months after Ivan
hit, then all the other storms came through and drove it even higher.
The "For Sale" signs are all over here, in Pensacola, and a realtor
friend
of mine told me last month that his mother over in the Dade county area
was seeing the same thing.  I asked him about the market now, as
compared
to before all the storms, and he told me that in this area the market
price
was now $80-$95 a square foot as compared to $60-$70 a square foot
before all the hurricanes fubared the housing.
  He said that he's noticed in the last 8-10 months that the house's
are
selling much slower, and the owners are still asking inflated prices
expecting
to cash in on a market that's now calming down.  According to him,
where
as a few months after the storms house's were selling like hotcakes,
now
they're sitting on the market for several,several months because the
prices
are so inflated.  This in leu of the fact that the owners are being
told that
the market is not sustaining the inflated prices.
  I can tell you fact, that houses selling in the $120,000 range
before the
storms, were being bought, marked up, and resold for well above
$150,000
to $160,000.  There WAS a lot of speculative buying from out of state
after the storms.  The fact that housing was limited, locals needed it
because
of personal loss of their own homes, and speculative buying from out of
state, drove everything through the roof.  Rent prices before the
storms
was in the area of $850-$950 a month for an aproximate 2000 sqaure foot
home.  Now they can't be had for less than $1200.
 The upside, if there is one, is my freind is telling me that the
local realtors
are expecting things to come back down a bit, allbeit never to pre Ivan
prices.
He's expecting the pricing to drop just before winter, as long as the
Hurricane
Season deals with Florida well this year.
  The insurance prices are, and will be, a huge concern from now on
out.
As will the hurricanes.  This IS just a big sand-bar peninsula after
all.

one last thing.....
 I would offer up that you should be very leary of all houses you look
into.
The mold problem is abundant.

just some info for you,
not that you're not savy enough to check,
jest some perspective.

~:~
marsh
Pensacola FL
~:~
Roy - 22 Apr 2006 19:41 GMT
>> I'm still planing on it. Going to take a ride down the end of June and
>> look
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> As will the hurricanes.  This IS just a big sand-bar peninsula after
> all.

I've been following the listings from the area that I'm interested in. A
good number of homes have dropped their listing prices by as much as 25K in
the past 3 months. What I understand is that there are a bunch of new homes
built on spec and the builders are sorta stuck with them. Figure that after
a bit the vig on those notes will become more than they they want to carry
and they will begin to sell at those 60-70@ sq ft to get a cash flow going.

Right now in Flagler there are over 2,000 homes for sale and the number is
climbing

What I've heard from insurance companies around Daytona is, east of I-95 you
are screwed big time, west of I-95 not screwed so bad, (I guess they just
stick in the head)

> one last thing.....
>  I would offer up that you should be very leary of all houses you look
> into.
> The mold problem is abundant.

Yup, my brother in law lives there and has mentioned it a bunch.

> just some info for you,
> not that you're not savy enough to check,
> jest some perspective.

Thanks appreciate it. Can't have too much info imo.

Roy

> ~:~
> marsh
> Pensacola FL
> ~:~
Marsh Monster - 20 Apr 2006 04:54 GMT
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TBone wrote in message:
> Do you hang out in that area?
If not, then you really don't have a clue.
> While I'm sure that there are a few people that fit his description, saying
> that they all do because they are black is simply a racist comment, no
> matter how you try and spin it.

But of course I forgot, no white people,
> especially in the south, mistreat or put down the blacks, do they.

I guess
> the KKK is a New England thing, LOL!

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Slavery started due to Northern greed, coruption, and power hunger.

Fact.
not fiction.

~:~
MarshMonster
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TBone - 20 Apr 2006 13:34 GMT
> ========
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> Fact.
> not fiction.

While true, it has little to do with this situation and while the north is
far from being prejudice free, it is still not as bad as many areas in the
south.  The point is that many people are put into situations not of their
choice and to make a blanket statement that they were and because they are
af whatever race is racist.

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Marsh Monster - 21 Apr 2006 18:11 GMT
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> "Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2624@aol.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Slavery started due to Northern greed, coruption, and power hunger.
> >
> > Fact.
> > not fiction.

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> While true, it has little to do with this situation and while the north is
> far from being prejudice free, it is still not as bad as many areas in the
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> --
> If at first you don't succeed,  you're not cut out for skydiving
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I agree.
totally.

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marsh
~:~
Roy - 19 Apr 2006 14:19 GMT
> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote it.

It sure is.

Roy
DonStaples - 19 Apr 2006 14:56 GMT
Can't we all just get along? *snicker*

>> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
>> it.
>
> It sure is.
>
> Roy
GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 15:17 GMT
>> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
>> it.
>
> It sure is.
>
> Roy

Well I think it is another case political correctness gone too far when
people suggests a black man is racist when writing a critique about his own
people.
Nobody said that about Bill Cosby when he basically said the same things
about his own people.
TBone - 19 Apr 2006 15:24 GMT
> >> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
> >> it.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> people suggests a black man is racist when writing a critique about his own
> people.

What in the hell do you think racism is there genius?!?!?!  It is not that
he said something, it is what he said that makes him racist.  If you think
that this article is correct (and some of it is), please tell us all exactly
where all of these poor black people were going to go and how they were
going to get there since most of them were at the poverty level and had no
cars?

> Nobody said that about Bill Cosby when he basically said the same things
> about his own people.

Really????  Care to back that up?

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GeekBoy - 19 Apr 2006 16:50 GMT
>> >> Because that whole article is racist bullshit, regardless of who wrote
>> >> it.
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> going to get there since most of them were at the poverty level and had no
> cars?

People tend to have short memories.
I do remember seeing about 255 unused school buses sitting in a parking lot
a bit flooded out in which the city could have used to help those in need to
get out.
66 People per bus that could have been 16,000 people per run. They had a few
days for the arrvial of the hurricane.

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/buses.asp

>> Nobody said that about Bill Cosby when he basically said the same things
>> about his own people.
>
> Really????  Care to back that up?

Sure I can, but where you been hiding? This made big news.

Bill Cosby: Poor blacks can't speak English
NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian

In the presence of NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and other African-American
leaders, comedian Bill Cosby took aim at blacks who don't take
responsibility for their economic status, blame police for incarcerations
and teach their kids poor speaking habits.
Cosby made his remarks at a Constitution Hall event in Washington Monday
night commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education
decision that paved the way for integrated schools, reported Richard Leiby
in his Reliable Source column for the Washington Post.

Leiby said Cosby's remarks were met with "astonishment, laughter and
applause."

When Cosby finally concluded, Leiby said, Mfume, Howard University President
H. Patrick Swygert and NAACP legal defense fund head Theodore Shaw came to
the podium looking "stone-faced."

Shaw told the crowd most people on welfare are not African American. He
insisted many of the problems his organization addresses among blacks are
not self-inflicted.

Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic
people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not
parenting. They are buying things for kids - $500 sneakers for what? And
won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I
can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is'
... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the
father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except
these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming
out of your mouth!"

The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

"These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around
stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece
of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops
shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in
his hand?"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38565
Marsh Monster - 20 Apr 2006 04:42 GMT
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GeekBoy wrote in message:

> People tend to have short memories.
> I do remember seeing about 255 unused school buses sitting in a parking lot
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>
> http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/buses.asp

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Maybe someone should have filled the gas tanks on the buses,
handed the keys to the comunity leaders, and said..
"take the buses, save yourselves, cuz we're leaving without you!"

At least then, they would have had the OPTION TO LEAVE,
like all the well-to-do's did.

anywhooo.....
back to the topic of the thread,
why did you post it?

lmao

~:~
MarshMonster
~Pensacola~
Jerry - 24 Apr 2006 04:45 GMT
> It is not that he said something, it is what he said that makes him racist.  

Oh Bullshit TBone.  Even you can't be that dumb.  The article may or may
not have been crap but black on black is not racism.  If I called you a
low life piece of white trash does that make me a racist against my own
race.  Of course it doesn't and you know it.
TBone - 24 Apr 2006 11:59 GMT
> > It is not that he said something, it is what he said that makes him racist.
>
> Oh Bullshit TBone.  Even you can't be that dumb.  The article may or may
> not have been crap but black on black is not racism.

Really Jerry, show me that definition and don't worry, I'll wait.  Just
because you may agree with some or all of that article means nothing.  The
article clearly defines some bad points as attributes of the black race and
that makes it racist by definition, no matter who wrote it.

> If I called you a
> low life piece of white trash does that make me a racist against my own
> race.  Of course it doesn't and you know it.

Of course not because in that case, you are attacking me personally (imagine
that), not just my race but if you were to say that all white people were
trash then you would be making a racist comment and oh look, a racist
comment against the whites by a white person.  I think that before you
attack my intelligence, you should get familiar with a few basic
definitions.

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Marsh Monster - 25 Apr 2006 05:05 GMT
> > It is not that he said something, it is what he said that makes him racist.
>
> Oh Bullshit TBone.  Even you can't be that dumb.  The article may or may
> not have been crap but black on black is not racism.  If I called you a
> low life piece of white trash does that make me a racist against my own
> race.  Of course it doesn't and you know it.

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please explain to me in simple terms, because I am a simple man,

the middle eastern idealology,

and .......

how it is not racist.

please.

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~a bigot is a bigot even if a bigot calls the bigot a bigot and the
bigot
doesn't realize another bigot is amidst~
rocdad - 29 Apr 2006 23:18 GMT
Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...
Marsh Monster - 30 Apr 2006 14:58 GMT
> Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...

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I'm sorry, but you abandoned your thread 11 days ago and it was
infiltrated
and taken command of by local non-Judean zealots who have since
restructured
the, now non-existant, platform set forth by the OP.
  It is now my unfortunate duty to net-nanny you toward setting up a
new thread,
or either joining in and mixing with the zealots and becoming part of
this new unified
effort to dissimilate and propogate misinformation, diabolical
ramifications of fact, and
overall justification of lanquage skills through the use of usenet and
all that intails.

or.......

you can persist in yer obstinance and "attempt" to carry this thread
back on topic,
in which place you may find that you will be required to participate in
the repair of
your vehical by turning wrenches and showing up for work more than once
every
eleven days.

if you choose the prior, welcome to our world.

if you choose the later, post the results of the first, and only,
suggested repair
technique given in this thread......and then we'll talk.

you did follow the advise given..........
didn't you?

?
?

no?

then what the fk. over?

why should we waste our time giving you more.......
if you ain't even gonna attempt to help us!?!?!!

oh......

yer slow.

ok.

then I'm sorry fer insuating you were just another random drifter with
no intent
what-so-ever of attempting the suggestions for repairs given.

truely!

I'm sincere!

you believe me, don't you?

nah?

ok.

i can live with that too.

~:~
mm
~sips his mushroom tea........wonders what yer problem was~
Bob M - 30 Apr 2006 17:45 GMT
> Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...

 Well since you did not include a quote we have no idea what you are
talking about.

 Bob
Roy - 30 Apr 2006 18:57 GMT
>> Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...
>
>  Well since you did not include a quote we have no idea what you are
> talking about.
>
>  Bob

He can't be too concerned his op was about 10 days ago.

Roy
Marsh Monster - 02 May 2006 06:53 GMT
> > Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...
>
>   Well since you did not include a quote we have no idea what you are
> talking about.
>
>   Bob

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Bob,
  look up.

no......higher.

a little higher.

high...errrrr.

there you go...the first post in the thread.
that's the one.  
read it.

~:~
marsh
~sips his coffee~
Nosey - 03 May 2006 13:50 GMT
>>> Can we get back on Topic? My truck is still frigged up...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> that's the one.
> read it.

Some servers (like mine) drop messages after a few days. To read the
original post I would have to go to google and look it up. If he's too lazy
to quote the original message then I'm not going to go out of my way to find
it.
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