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About a week or so ago,"the machine" was a topic of conversation and some accusations among a few of us. Have you noticed what has happened since? No more about "the machine" AND no more from DENNY!!! What do ya think??? I'm of the belief that my wide assed buddy might have taken off to the back forty with "the machine" I can picture it now: Ol' fur face sprawled out in a lean to hooked up to "the machine", his new AR locked and loaded in one hand and a bottle of ripple in the other, just waiting for somebody to try to take "the machine" away from him. Probably has Pink Floyd playing in the background. <GBMFG> Roy > About a week or so ago,"the machine" was a topic of conversation and some > accusations among a few of us. Have you noticed what has happened since? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Roy Yeah, I think you are right Roy. He is 'treating himself' after such a successful Easter. That and maybe thinking of some little bunnies in Maine... FMB Nope . . .no way ... ain't gonna make no comments a bout ya'll havin a "thought" . . . . . . at least, not this time . . . . . . BG  SignatureBudd Cochran > About a week or so ago,"the machine" was a topic of conversation and some > accusations among a few of us. Have you noticed what has happened since? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Roy >About a week or so ago,"the machine" was a topic of conversation and some >accusations among a few of us. Have you noticed what has happened since? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Roy wow. i'm having thoughts now of pulp fiction. i see the guys down in the basement, but now i see denny in the wabbit suit walking down the stairs. vewy scawy gentlemen. I wished for peace between us when you claimed to be leaving the group, now you've "come back" with my name in an insulting address line. I see now the offer was wasted, pearls before swine, as the Bible calls it. You made the decision to write the address in that manner, so all responsibility is on you. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >>About a week or so ago,"the machine" was a topic of conversation and some >>accusations among a few of us. Have you noticed what has happened since? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the basement, but now i see denny in the wabbit suit walking down the > stairs. vewy scawy gentlemen. >I wished for peace between us when you claimed to be leaving the group, now >you've "come back" with my name in an insulting address line. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You made the decision to write the address in that manner, so all >responsibility is on you. whatever. You really are kidding, right?!?!?!? SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > I wished for peace between us when you claimed to be leaving the group, now > you've "come back" with my name in an insulting address line. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** No, Tom, I'm not. You two always spun the blame towards me for the strife between myself and you guys and when I make a gesture of peace, one of you will pull this kind of crap and then spin it into being my fault again. Guess what? Now it's Google archived as to who is responsible and who supported the insult, you. So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue your hatred and bigotries? As for me, do your worst. I do want to thank you, Tom, for honing my skills at ignoring bigoted idiots like yourself and "theguy". SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > You really are kidding, right?!?!?!? > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > No, Tom, I'm not. > > You two always spun the blame towards me for the strife between myself and > you guys and when I make a gesture of peace, one of you will pull this > kind of crap and then spin it into being my fault again. You just can't ignore them? > Guess what? Now it's Google archived as to who is responsible and who > supported the insult, you. You are playing the blame game with....... > So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue your > hatred and bigotries? That is a bit over dramatic imo. > As for me, do your worst. I do want to thank you, Tom, for honing my > skills at ignoring bigoted idiots like yourself and "theguy". Are you sure that "the guy" it is not a spoof? The original didn't operate in that manner, also the verbiage is different. Please take a deep breath and relax for a bit or I might be the oldest old fart here.<G> Roy >> No, Tom, I'm not. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You just can't ignore them? So, you haven't noticed T-bone's attempts to start new arguments? >> Guess what? Now it's Google archived as to who is responsible and who >> supported the insult, you. > > You are playing the blame game with....... No one of importance, but by replying, the insulting addy is recorded for posterity. Roy, have you forgotten the number of times you've told me to shut up/not reply/ignore/etc. while letting them alone in those arguments? Why is that? Is it my religious beliefs? my political choices? The color of my hair? If anyone should have been quiet, it should have been you because you took the advice you wanted to give me . . .again.. >> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue your >> hatred and bigotries? > > That is a bit over dramatic imo. Yes, in your opinion. In my opinion, it was necessary. >> As for me, do your worst. I do want to thank you, Tom, for honing my >> skills at ignoring bigoted idiots like yourself and "theguy". > > Are you sure that "the guy" it is not a spoof? The original didn't operate > in that manner, also the verbiage is different. I don't really care as it could be a case of theguy changing his verbage to disguise himself. > Please take a deep breath and relax for a bit or I might be the oldest old > fart here.<G> > > Roy I believe you already are. I'm not 60 yet and, iirc, you are over 60, right? Roy, I really did not need your input on this and was going to read but ignore any further postings from those two. May I go back to that now??? It may have all been nothing more than T-bone using it to start an argument. You should have left it alone, IMHO. SignatureBudd Cochran "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So, you haven't noticed T-bone's attempts to start new arguments? Not really. I saw where he commented on a mpg thing, but that was it. >>> Guess what? Now it's Google archived as to who is responsible and who >>> supported the insult, you. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Roy, have you forgotten the number of times you've told me to shut up/not > reply/ignore/etc. while letting them alone in those arguments? No Budd I have not. You have made a believer out of me, it is futility to suggest that you ignore. >Why is that? Since you asked I'll answer, after I answer your other questions > Is it my religious beliefs? No >my political choices? No The color of my hair? No It is my foolish attempt to suggest to you that not get worked up and start your usual response to a person that you feel that disagreed with you or to use your word "attacked". Rest assured when you go off on sombody I shant attempt to quell the flames again. > If anyone should have been quiet, it should have been you because you took > the advice you wanted to give me . . .again.. I don't really follow the above. But if you meant that I should have ignored your response to tg or tb you are 100% correct. >>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue your >>> hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I don't really care as it could be a case of theguy changing his verbage > to disguise himself. Seems I was wrong it was "the guy" Hell he even apologized. Of course he responded to your post. >> Please take a deep breath and relax for a bit or I might be the oldest >> old fart here.<G> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I believe you already are. I'm not 60 yet and, iirc, you are over 60, > right? Nah, not 60 yet. > Roy, I really did not need your input on this Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. >and was going to read but ignore any further postings from those two. May I >go back to that now??? It may have all been nothing more than T-bone using >it to start an argument. I don't see where tb was attempting to start an argument. Budd, I thought you were kidding too. > You should have left it alone, IMHO. You should follow your own advive IMHO Roy >>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Not really. I saw where he commented on a mpg thing, but that was it. It's one of many, but I don't expect or ask anyone to look for them, I just thought you might have noticed. >>>> Guess what? Now it's Google archived as to who is responsible and who >>>> supported the insult, you. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No Budd I have not. You have made a believer out of me, it is futility to > suggest that you ignore. You have several times (BG) , but my point is made, I will respond if I think I need to. >>Why is that? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > you or to use your word "attacked". Rest assured when you go off on > sombody I shant attempt to quell the flames again. But you still did not answer the question: why have you never told T-bone or theguy to not reply? >> If anyone should have been quiet, it should have been you because you >> took the advice you wanted to give me . . .again.. > > I don't really follow the above. But if you meant that I should have > ignored your response to tg or tb you are 100% correct. Sorry, I dropped a word or two. It should have read, "If anyone should have been quiet, it should have been you because you should have taken the advice you wanted to give me . . .again.." >>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue your >>>> hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Seems I was wrong it was "the guy" Hell he even apologized. Of course he > responded to your post. Then he negated the "apology" with the next paragraph. >>> Please take a deep breath and relax for a bit or I might be the oldest >>> old fart here.<G> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nah, not 60 yet. I'll be 60 in February 07. >> Roy, I really did not need your input on this > > Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. Are you sure? My hand would have been stinging from the slapping if I handed jerked it back. ;^) >>and was going to read but ignore any further postings from those two. May >>I go back to that now??? It may have all been nothing more than T-bone >>using it to start an argument. > > I don't see where tb was attempting to start an argument. Budd, I thought > you were kidding too. Nope. I wasn't kidding. He says he uses my name as a profanity, a curse word. Maybe it means nothing to you, but it means a lot to me. >> You should have left it alone, IMHO. > > You should follow your own advive IMHO As should have you, my friend. <VBG> Yes, I do consider you a friend, Roy. You and I can and have disagreed without the name calling, etc. that tb and tg seem to require. If we do insult the other, we can apologize without renegging on the apology, and the other can accept it. > Roy Budd >>>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You have several times (BG) , but my point is made, I will respond if I > think I need to. My mistake I only answered the first of your two part question. "No Budd I have not" was the answer to your "have you forgotten the number of times....." >>>Why is that? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But you still did not answer the question: why have you never told T-bone > or theguy to not reply? Now for the second part of your two part question that I missed. Actually that is easy. You and I go back a bit. That said, when these folks or anybody else does anything that you feel is out of line a bit you turn it into a friggin' war.imo. All tb said "was your kidding right?" Your reply was friggin' nuts imo. It is what you do, overeaction, honestly at time's you make an a.s of yourself and this is one of those times. As a friend I was trying to nudge you away from some overaction. I'm sure you don't like the answer but you asked the question. >>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue >>>>> your hatred and bigotries? This is what I mean. It is over the top with regard to what was posted. >>>> That is a bit over dramatic imo. >>> >>> Yes, in your opinion. In my opinion, it was necessary. >>>> >>>>> As for me, do your worst. I do want to thank you, Tom, for honing my >>>>> skills at ignoring bigoted idiots like yourself and "theguy". Here ya are again. >>>> Are you sure that "the guy" it is not a spoof? The original didn't >>>> operate in that manner, also the verbiage is different. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Then he negated the "apology" with the next paragraph. He apologized and explained. He didn't have to. Then he replied to you in his second para. Odd though, he used the same word "over react" >>>> Please take a deep breath and relax for a bit or I might be the oldest >>>> old fart here.<G> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'll be 60 in February 07. No sh.t!!! You ARE older than me!! >> Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. > > Are you sure? My hand would have been stinging from the slapping if I > handed jerked it back. ;^) Your are much too sensitive.<G> >>>and was going to read but ignore any further postings from those two. May >>>I go back to that now??? It may have all been nothing more than T-bone [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nope. I wasn't kidding. He says he uses my name as a profanity, a curse > word. Maybe it means nothing to you, but it means a lot to me. I don't see where he used your name as anything. >>> You should have left it alone, IMHO. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and tg seem to require. If we do insult the other, we can apologize > without renegging on the apology, and the other can accept it. Yup. I'm going to go back and snip some of this, I'm starting to get lost here. Roy >>>>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > have not" was the answer to your "have you forgotten the number of > times....." My apologies. >>>>Why is that? >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > was trying to nudge you away from some overaction. I'm sure you don't > like the answer but you asked the question. Roy, In your opinion, I was being one of those, but in mine I was replying to a known adversary in a manner, IMHO, far more politely than he deserved. It boils down to a difference in opinion of oneself and one's name. I found it insulting. I replied to that. >>>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue >>>>>> your hatred and bigotries? > > This is what I mean. It is over the top with regard to what was posted. This is what I mean, also. You've read what they have said about my beliefs, politics and the names used to refer to me with the use of my name as a profanity being the latest . . .and that's ok with you? >>>>> That is a bit over dramatic imo. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Here ya are again. What? Telling the truth? Stating a fact? That I will be ignoring their comments and replies in the future? >>>>> Are you sure that "the guy" it is not a spoof? The original didn't >>>>> operate in that manner, also the verbiage is different. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He apologized and explained. He didn't have to. Then he replied to you in > his second para. And the insults thrown about in the second paragraph had no meaning? To you, maybe not, but I would have been offended if they had been said about you simply because you are my friend. > Odd though, he used the same word "over react" > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > No sh.t!!! You ARE older than me!! Can't be by much. >>> Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. >> >> Are you sure? My hand would have been stinging from the slapping if I >> handed jerked it back. ;^) > > Your are much too sensitive.<G> Nope, I still have normal reaction times. I have slowed a bit over the years, though. I'm down to 0.17 seconds, but could be health or medication related, according to my doctor. >>>>and was going to read but ignore any further postings from those two. >>>>May I go back to that now??? It may have all been nothing more than [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I don't see where he used your name as anything. He did, but here again, it's differing opinions or attitudes towards one's name. Heck, maybe just the difference in how we were raised, but that's the point of the matter. I was raised that a person's name is sacred, kinda like God's last name is not "damn", you see. It demonstrated his lack of any kind of respect for another person's beliefs. And that is contrary to their claims of having tolerance toward others. >>>> You should have left it alone, IMHO. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Roy Don't cut too close or you may not have any fingers left to count on. <BG> Budd >>>>>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > beliefs, politics and the names used to refer to me with the use of my > name as a profanity being the latest . . .and that's ok with you? I saw no hatred or bigitory in tb post or tg's post. How you arrived at that is beyond me. At best your post was inflamatory. >>>>>> That is a bit over dramatic imo. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > you, maybe not, but I would have been offended if they had been said about > you simply because you are my friend. He still apologized. Then he responded to your post. Hell Budd, I would have as well. Actually I still am.<G> But this is my last, the race is on and I can't multi task tonight. g'night. >> Odd though, he used the same word "over react" >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Can't be by much. Don't matter you are still older. By 2 months. <G> >>>> Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > lack of any kind of respect for another person's beliefs. And that is > contrary to their claims of having tolerance toward others. Ooookay! Roy Now Now you old a.s children!!! No desert for you two tonight!!!!! >>>>>>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] > > Roy > Now Now you old a.s children!!! > No desert for you two tonight!!!!! Your too late!! Roy I'll take away tomorrows! No beer either!!!!!! :) >> Now Now you old a.s children!!! >> No desert for you two tonight!!!!! > > Your too late!! > > Roy > I'll take away tomorrows! No beer either!!!!!! > > :) No!! Not the beer! <G> Roy >>> Now Now you old a.s children!!! >>> No desert for you two tonight!!!!! >> >> Your too late!! >> >> Roy Fine with me. I'm a diabetic, anyway. <VBG> SignatureBudd Cochran > Now Now you old a.s children!!! > No desert for you two tonight!!!!! [quoted text clipped - 146 lines] >> >> Roy >Now Now you old a.s children!!! >No desert for you two tonight!!!!! Good on you, Larry.... Personally, I was thinking of that line from the movie Ice Age where the mammoth says "don't make me turn around".. *rofl* opps... we're not being bigoted, hateful or irreverent, are we? Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm >>>>>>>> No, Tom, I'm not. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > that is beyond me. > At best your post was inflamatory. Admittedly, with tb the intention was to encourage him to go bother someone else or just go away. I do not have any desire to converse with him on any earthly matter. OTOH, and I really don't see why you don't see it, tg stated publicly that his use of my name was as an expletive, a profanity, a curse word to him. That is an insult. >>>>>>> That is a bit over dramatic imo. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > But this is my last, the race is on and I can't multi task tonight. > g'night. Yes, you are responding, but unlike tb and tg you can do it with courtesy, intelligence and in a non insulting manner. In a nutshell, you have values regarding the treatment of others. >>> Odd though, he used the same word "over react" >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Don't matter you are still older. By 2 months. <G> You have a birthday this month? My eldest was born on the 30th of this month. >>>>> Well ya got it, live with it, it wasn't harmful. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Roy Later, friend. Hope ya don't lose too many pesos on the race. Budd >>>>>>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you continue >>>>>>>>> your hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > someone else or just go away. I do not have any desire to converse with > him on any earthly matter. You asked him THREE QUESTION'S in your post! How can you say you didn't want to converse with him, when by clear language you encourage a conversation ? You didn't just open the door, you kicked it open imo. Read 3 para's up. (I'm trimming this again.) > OTOH, and I really don't see why you don't see it, tg stated publicly that > his use of my name was as an expletive, a profanity, a curse word to him. > That is an insult. I didn't see that in this thread. How far back in history are you going? Ya gotta treat each thread as new if possible. Clinging to the past around here isn't healthy. After all, it isn't real. <G> > You have a birthday this month? My eldest was born on the 30th of this > month. At the beginning. Roy >>>>>>>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you >>>>>>>>>> continue your hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > conversation ? You didn't just open the door, you kicked it open imo. Read > 3 para's up. (I'm trimming this again.) Rhetorical questions, Roy. Read them again. >> OTOH, and I really don't see why you don't see it, tg stated publicly >> that his use of my name was as an expletive, a profanity, a curse word to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ya gotta treat each thread as new if possible. Clinging to the past around > here isn't healthy. After all, it isn't real. <G> What's not real? That my name is used in a defamatory manner and admittedly so by theguy? Try looking at it from another perspective and values set, mine. "Great Spirit, let me not judge another until I have walked a day in his moccasins." I'm sorry you can't understand my viewpoint. I've tried my best but somehow it's something you, as well as tg and tb, don't understand. All that says is that you approve of that behavior towards others. So be it. It's a shame the old values that made America great are being kicked aside like trash. At one time, the Biblical values of having a good name being better than riches meant something and to have those values earned a person respect. I will keep those values. If you don't have the respect for yourself to defend your name, then that's your choice. You, nor anyone else, do not have the authority or right to tell me I should not or cannot defend my name because your values about the matter differ from mine. >> You have a birthday this month? My eldest was born on the 30th of this >> month. > > At the beginning. > > Roy So you just turned 59? Hey, are you saying you are an "April Fool's Day" birth? You lucky son of a gun. All I can claim for my birthday is that it's before Washington's, after Lincoln's, and the same day John Glenn orbited the Earth. . . .the first time, that is. Budd >>>>>>>>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you >>>>>>>>>>> continue your hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Rhetorical questions, Roy. Read them again. Rehtorical and inflamatory it opened the door. You knew, as did most here that a response in kind would follow. Why would you be surprised, it has happened so many times before I can write the script. >>> OTOH, and I really don't see why you don't see it, tg stated publicly >>> that his use of my name was as an expletive, a profanity, a curse word [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What's not real? That my name is used in a defamatory manner How did he defame your name?? >and admittedly so by theguy? Try looking at it from another perspective and >values set, mine. "Great Spirit, let me not judge another until I have >walked a day in his moccasins." Now what are we indians? > I'm sorry you can't understand my viewpoint. I've tried my best but > somehow it's something you, as well as tg and tb, don't understand. All > that says is that you approve of that behavior towards others. I guess what it says is I saw nothing wrong with tb's post. I've enjoyed tg's humor for a number years even before he was "the guy" As I said before it is your need for continual over the top response's is the behavior that I question. > So be it. It's a shame the old values that made America great are being > kicked aside like trash. At one time, the Biblical values of having a good > name being better than riches meant something and to have those values > earned a person respect. Respect is earned in many ways. > I will keep those values. If you don't have the respect for yourself to > defend your name, then that's your choice. I defend myself when the oppont is worthy or the comment made is significant. Otherwise I let it slide. >You, nor anyone else, do not have the authority or right to tell me I >should not or cannot defend my name because your values about the matter >differ from mine. As I said before I was trying to nudge you from over reacting. Also told you I wouldn't make that attempt again. >>> You have a birthday this month? My eldest was born on the 30th of this >>> month. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So you just turned 59? Yup > Hey, are you saying you are an "April Fool's Day" birth? You lucky son of > a gun. Yup, right again. Having that b day and the ensueing jokes can get real interesting. Thinking about it, if I applied you values I'd spend all my time in a brawl defending my birthday. Doubtful you see my point, but it is there. Roy > Budd > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >>>>>>>>>>>> So, now what? Do you clowns continue your attacks? Do you >>>>>>>>>>>> continue your hatred and bigotries? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > that a response in kind would follow. Why would you be surprised, it has > happened so many times before I can write the script. Neither was he surprised I responded as I did, though getting such a confession from him would probably be harder than finding life on the sun. >>>> OTOH, and I really don't see why you don't see it, tg stated publicly >>>> that his use of my name was as an expletive, a profanity, a curse word [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > How did he defame your name?? <LOL> Roy, tg admitted he used the name derogatorally in reference to anything that frustrated him. That's called "confession". >>and admittedly so by theguy? Try looking at it from another perspective >>and values set, mine. "Great Spirit, let me not judge another until I have >>walked a day in his moccasins." > > Now what are we indians? No, but the saying fits. Don't judge another unless you have lived as he does. That's how I know what the difference between political issues really are, for exam[ple, I used to be a Liberal until I woke up to reality. >> I'm sorry you can't understand my viewpoint. I've tried my best but >> somehow it's something you, as well as tg and tb, don't understand. All >> that says is that you approve of that behavior towards others. > > I guess what it says is I saw nothing wrong with tb's post. What it says is that you don't see my side of it, can't see it or won't see it. Only you know the true reason. > I've enjoyed tg's humor for a number years even before he was "the guy" As > I said before it is your need for continual over the top response's is the > behavior that I question. I don't remember who he is and he won't remind me. We may have been friends at one time, but I don't know since I don't remember who he was. Now, it no longer matters because of his decision to denegrate my name without remorse. I would rather be friends, but I will not bend my values to suit anyone AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. I ask no one to bend theirs, just accept me as I am and I will accept them. But there lies the rub. You and I can agree to disagree and not get into name calling, etc., they cannot. >> So be it. It's a shame the old values that made America great are being >> kicked aside like trash. At one time, the Biblical values of having a >> good name being better than riches meant something and to have those >> values earned a person respect. > > Respect is earned in many ways. In your opinion. Using a person's name in a derogatory matter and ADMITTING TO IT is not the way to earn mine, regardless of who's name it is. >> I will keep those values. If you don't have the respect for yourself to >> defend your name, then that's your choice. > > I defend myself when the oppont is worthy or the comment made is > significant. Otherwise I let it slide. Oh, gee, can I do that? waitaminit . . .THAT'S WHAT THE HECK I'M DOING!!!!!! but only I see it that way. you, tg, and tb see me as the bad guy for doing what each of you have done yourselves. >>You, nor anyone else, do not have the authority or right to tell me I >>should not or cannot defend my name because your values about the matter >>differ from mine. > > As I said before I was trying to nudge you from over reacting. Also told > you I wouldn't make that attempt again. And I keep telling you and others that I have my set of values, based on the Bible, that require me to reply to things that, apparently, you and other consider trivial. You see things from a completely different perspective, a different set of values and when you tell me that I shouldn't "over-react" you're telling me to follow YOUR values, and not my own. >>>> You have a birthday this month? My eldest was born on the 30th of this >>>> month. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Yup, right again. Having that b day and the ensueing jokes can get real > interesting. Personally, I would enjoy it. Not many jokes left running around about those three guys on or about the time of my birthday. > Thinking about it, if I applied you values I'd spend all my time in a > brawl defending my birthday. Doubtful you see my point, but it is there. I see the point your attempting to make, Roy, and I appreciate the effort, but there is a difference: there is no scripture charging me to ensure a good "birthday". I truth my friend, you would have to spend some time as fundamental Christian conservative to understand. And what would be the chances of that? <VBG> The phrase, "snowflake in Hell" comes to mind. And this is the first time I've ever had my name publicy announced as being used as a curse or profanity. Budd > Budd I guess we have about beat it to death. I'm done. Roy I do hope you understand my position a bit better, Roy. Catch ya later, friend. SignatureBudd Cochran >> Budd >> > I guess we have about beat it to death. I'm done. > > Roy >> What's not real? That my name is used in a defamatory manner > > How did he defame your name?? <whole lot of snippin> > Roy Roy, I couldn't find what the issue Budd was upset about either, at first. I use OE as my newsgroup reader and I click on what I want to read and it comes into the window below. That is where I read it. I saw nothing unusually wrong. It wasn't till I double clicked and saw the whole "From" address of theguy (@nowaybudd.net) that I thought I found what upset Budd. FMB >>> What's not real? That my name is used in a defamatory manner >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It wasn't till I double clicked and saw the whole "From" address of theguy > (@nowaybudd.net) that I thought I found what upset Budd. That to me is not defamation. Roy > FMB And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything frustrating. According to the way I was raised, my beliefs, that is an insult, even since it is a nickname. It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if someone uses his name at all because of how, according to hi, his name was denigrated in some groups, but I'm to ignore the insult to my name. SignatureBudd Cochran >>> What's not real? That my name is used in a defamatory manner >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > FMB > And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything frustrating. > According to the way I was raised, my beliefs, that is an insult, even since > it is a nickname. More complete bullshit. I thought that you didn't lie. > It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if someone > uses his name at all because of how, according to hi, his name was > denigrated in some groups, but I'm to ignore the insult to my name. If you are going to keep bringing my name up, at least get it right. My name was not denigrated, it was being used in other groups by that a.shole checkmate. That is a big difference from the very minor joke that theguy made with yours. Grow up already. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything frustrating. >> According to the way I was raised, my beliefs, that is an insult, even > since >> it is a nickname. > > More complete bullshit. I thought that you didn't lie. I don't. I understood him to be saying he uses my name as profanity in reference to anything that frustrates him. Get that through your thick head, Tom. You don't tell me what he meant. >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if > someone [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > checkmate. That is a big difference from the very minor joke that theguy > made with yours. Grow up already. And you were offended or you would not have taken any action, like changing to a screen name. If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, THEN YOU TOO WERE OFFENDED, TOM. You just haven't been taught that's what you were experiencing because of unauthorized use of your name. BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup either. Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the first time. Budd > >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything frustrating. > >> According to the way I was raised, my beliefs, that is an insult, even [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > reference to anything that frustrates him. Get that through your thick head, > Tom. You don't tell me what he meant. I am not talking about that Budd. What I'm talking about is you constant stream of BS about how your were raised to be an a.shole. I doubt very much that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an a.shole and even your friends think you are acting that way anymore. The only thing really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike you, they actually care about another's (your) feelings and know that it really is a waste of time saying anything to you since you only see what you want to see, regardless of the number of others saying something different. You can try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness for justifications for being the way you are but in reality..... > >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if > > someone [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And you were offended or you would not have taken any action, like changing > to a screen name. LOL, are you really this stupid? Being offended has nothing to do with it. The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be me, that is until he got caught. Now only a complete idiot would not do something to prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps your life in public and the work field is over but mine isn't and I don't need crap like that comming back to bite me, especially when it wasn't me who did it. If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you just let it go and pay the bills??? If so, can I have it? > If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, > maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, THEN > YOU TOO WERE OFFENDED, TOM. You just haven't been taught that's what you > were experiencing because of unauthorized use of your name. Get a life dudd. Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over it like you are here? No you don't because unlike you, I'm not a crybaby desperate for any attention, either good or bad. I don't get mad at crap like that because TBone is not my real name, just like Budd is not yours. > BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup either. The funny thing Budd is that it is NOT your real name and he doesn't need to. It is a nickname and MANY people have the very same one AND that name is also used to address someone who's real name is not known. You have NO ownership of the name Budd but if he included your last name as well, then you would have something to possibly bitch about but this just shows how desperate for attention. You really are proving yourself to be a friggen crybaby. > Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the first > time. If you really want me to mind my own business, then stop using me in your examples, especially when you really don't know WTF you are talking about. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I am not talking about that Budd. What I'm talking about is you constant > stream of BS about how your were raised to be an a.shole. No, in reality, what you are taliking about is your lack of tolerance for anyone that is not a liberal like yourself, anyone that thinks differently, belives differently, or was raised differently. > I doubt very much > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an a.shole > and even your friends think you are acting that way anymore. My friends can speak for themselves, you are not their representative. If you are, then they are not friends. > The only thing > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike you, > they > actually care about another's (your) feelings and know that it really is a > waste of time saying anything to you since you only see what you want to > see, regardless of the number of others saying something different. So, by this you admit your own intolerance, hypocristy and hatred towards me. > You can > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness for > justifications for being the way you are but in reality..... And you hide behind your claims of tolerance, liberality, atheism, political correctness hypocrisy and outright lying. >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if >> > someone [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > LOL, are you really this stupid? Being offended has nothing to do with > it. Yes, it does. Your reply is to a post concerning the topic. > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be me, > that > is until he got caught. He is a "lowlife". Gee, that sounds like you were offended. Since you often call,me names, I must offend you, as well. > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps your > life in public and the work field is over but mine isn't and I don't need > crap like that comming back to bite me, especially when it wasn't me who > did > it. What has my lifestyle have to do with yours? Is that more of your intolerance again? > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you just > let it go and pay the bills??? If so, can I have it? I don't buy by plastic anymore than I have to, very little on line and only thru trusted sites . . .in other words, Tom, I protect myself BEFORE the trouble can happen. If you treated checkmate like you do me, then you may have brought on your own troubles. >> If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, >> maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Get a life dudd. Ah, the name calling . . . . you sound offended. Why am I not allowed to be offended also, Tom? > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over it like > you are here? No you don't because unlike you, I'm not a crybaby > desperate > for any attention, either good or bad. I don't get mad at crap like that > because TBone is not my real name, just like Budd is not yours. Where is it written I have to be like you? >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup > either. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > desperate for attention. You really are proving yourself to be a friggen > crybaby. And what are you proving yourself to be? Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete hypocrite that cannot accept that I am not you and will never be. >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the > first >> time. > > If you really want me to mind my own business, then stop using me in your > examples, especially when you really don't know WTF you are talking about. Just going by whay you have said in the group and YOUR ATTITUDES towards me. Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit you were offended by checkmate. That puts you in a hypocitical position when it comes to telling me I cannot be offended by tg. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything > > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > anyone that is not a liberal like yourself, anyone that thinks differently, > belives differently, or was raised differently. Once again, more lies. You have a million excuses for acting like an a.shole but if anyone calls you on it, you scream "lack of tolerance" when this whole part of this thread was created by YOUR lack of tolerance. > > I doubt very much > > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an a.shole > > and even your friends think you are acting that way anymore. > > My friends can speak for themselves, you are not their representative. If > you are, then they are not friends. I guess that is your hatred coming out again. Now what part of the bible describes this as proper behavior. The fact that none of them called me on this say it all. > > The only thing > > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike you, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So, by this you admit your own intolerance, hypocristy and hatred towards > me. No Budd, you admitted that in your statement above. You have made it clear that you would never be my friend so what exactly do I have to worry about by telling you the cold hard truth? It is not that I hate you Budd because you have really never done anything to me to make me hate you, it is that you have made it very clear to me that I really have nothing to lose by being honest. > > You can > > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness for > > justifications for being the way you are but in reality..... > > And you hide behind your claims of tolerance, liberality, atheism, political > correctness hypocrisy and outright lying. I am far more tolerant that you could ever be and this whining from you over a silly name is proof positive. > >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats if > >> > someone [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yes, it does. Your reply is to a post concerning the topic. No, my reply is to YOU! > > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be me, > > that > > is until he got caught. > > He is a "lowlife". Gee, that sounds like you were offended. Since you often > call,me names, I must offend you, as well. Actually Budd, what he did was a criminal act and for that alone he is a lowlife, my feelings aside. > > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to > > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps your [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > What has my lifestyle have to do with yours? Is that more of your > intolerance again? How exactly is there any intolerance here???? I am simply saying that our lives are currently on different paths and because of that, I have far more to lose than you do and because of that, I take more precautions. > > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you just > > let it go and pay the bills??? If so, can I have it? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trouble can happen. If you treated checkmate like you do me, then you may > have brought on your own troubles. Funny how you forgot how he was attacking you first. I wonder where he may have used your name. > >> If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, > >> maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ah, the name calling . . . . you sound offended. Why am I not allowed to be > offended also, Tom? It was a joke Budd, take a chill pill. > > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and > > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over it like [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Where is it written I have to be like you? Nowhere and I never said that you did but reacting the way you did is just childish and even your friends are saying so. > >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup > > either. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And what are you proving yourself to be? Not a thing Budd. > Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete hypocrite > that cannot accept that I am not you and will never be. I don't expect you to be me but that doesn't mean that you are not acting like a little baby right now. I guess that you must feel the same way about Roy since he basically said the same thing to you that I did, he was just trying to be nicer about it and if not, then who is the one being a hypocrite? > >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the > > first [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Just going by whay you have said in the group and YOUR ATTITUDES towards me. LOL, you really should look in the mirror. > Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit you > were offended by checkmate. That puts you in a hypocitical position when it > comes to telling me I cannot be offended by tg. LOL, thank you for proving my point from the last post. You see only what you want to see and hear only what you want to hear. It had nothing to do with me being offended. He tried to steal my identity and that is a crime. Was I pissed, sure, but was probably more worried about what he may have done. Being offended had nothing to do with it now open your eyes and see reality for a change. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything >> > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > a.shole but if anyone calls you on it, you scream "lack of tolerance" when > this whole part of this thread was created by YOUR lack of tolerance. Lack of tolerance or values differing from yours? I was raised to respect the values of others, apparently you were not. >> > I doubt very much >> > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > on > this say it all. No, it means that not one of them spoke anything on the matter. Roy is my friend and he spoke to me about it, we discussed it and not once did he say I was hateful, an idiot, or any of the other terms you used in reference to me. But then, Roy has respect for others values. >> > The only thing >> > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike you, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > you have made it very clear to me that I really have nothing to lose by > being honest. Unfortunately, your definition of honesty doesn't match any dictionary definition. Therefore, it's not honesty. >> > You can >> > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > over > a silly name is proof positive. No, it's proof that I don't want my name turned into a profanity. To you and according to your moral codes, it's nothing if your name is used profanely. According to my moral codes, values and beliefs, it's an insult. >> >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats >> >> >> if [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > No, my reply is to YOU! No, it your reply to my values concerning my name and you attempting to make me follow your values. >> > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be me, >> > that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Actually Budd, what he did was a criminal act and for that alone he is a > lowlife, my feelings aside. Spin and twist. You phrased your reply and it stated you were angered and offended. Face the facts, Tom. >> > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to >> > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > more > to lose than you do and because of that, I take more precautions. Get back on topic, Tom. My values are different from yours. Like you, I was offended by the use of my name in a manner contrary to my values and/or without my permission. >> > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you just >> > let it go and pay the bills??? If so, can I have it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > may > have used your name. Nowhere. Like you I checked, but unlike you, he didn't abuse my name. >> >> If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, >> >> maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It was a joke Budd, take a chill pill. How long before you learn that not everyone shares your values, Tom? How long before you learn that what may be a big joke to you could be enough to get your name abused all over the net? >> > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and >> > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Nowhere and I never said that you did but reacting the way you did is just > childish and even your friends are saying so. Roy didn't say I was childish, he said he felt it was an over-reaction, Mac just teased me a bit. So where did they call me childish? The only ones calling me that are those that are not no longer or never have been my friends. >> >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup >> > either. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Not a thing Budd. That's your problem, Tom. You may not consider yourself to be anything or anybody, and you don't think I should either. >> Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete hypocrite >> that cannot accept that I am not you and will never be. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > trying to be nicer about it and if not, then who is the one being a > hypocrite? Roy said no such thing and he's not a hypocrite. >> >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the >> > first [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > LOL, you really should look in the mirror. No, you should take a cold, hard look at what your attitudes cause you to treat others like. >> Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit >> you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > done. Being offended had nothing to do with it now open your eyes and see > reality for a change. If you were , as you say, "pissed", then you were offended, but I'm not allowed to be offended, am I? SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > >> >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything > >> > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Lack of tolerance or values differing from yours? Lack of tolerance. > I was raised to respect the values of others, apparently you were not. You may have been raised that way, but you don't do it. I believe that you use the term "politically incorrect" to attempt to cover yourself here. > >> > I doubt very much > >> > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I was hateful, an idiot, or any of the other terms you used in reference to > me. You really need to stop mixing things up in the hopes of confusing others into thinking you are correct as it really doesn't work. I was the one who said you were hateful toward me and has nothing to do with Roy, Mac, or anyone else and nobody called you an idiot. At best, I may have asked you if you were one with some of the responses I was getting but even I didn't outright call you one. But the fact that they did not call me on anything I actually said shows it all, that you are overreacting to a minor thing is such a matter that it can be called nothing less than childish and appears (to me anyway) to be nothing more than your victims mentality and a desperate need for attention. > But then, Roy has respect for others values. Yes he does which is why he is trying to use the politically correct way of telling you to grow up and act like a man. > >> > The only thing > >> > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike you, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Unfortunately, your definition of honesty doesn't match any dictionary > definition. Therefore, it's not honesty. Once again, your hatefullness toward me distorts all you see. > >> > You can > >> > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > according to your moral codes, it's nothing if your name is used profanely. > According to my moral codes, values and beliefs, it's an insult. Ok, call me an idiot if you want but I just don't get it. Please explain in legible fashion exactly how he is using your name as a profanity. Now if you don't or just fall back on your typical insults without explaining it, then we will all know the truth. > >> >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious threats > >> >> >> if [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > No, it your reply to my values concerning my name and you attempting to make > me follow your values. You keep screaming these values but have yet to justify it. How exactly did that little joke affect your values? > >> > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be me, > >> > that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Spin and twist. You phrased your reply and it stated you were angered and > offended. Face the facts, Tom. You are the one twisting and spinning here Budd. You were the one who took it here and know that you are caught.... > >> > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to > >> > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > offended by the use of my name in a manner contrary to my values and/or > without my permission. I am not the one who took it off topic, that was you. Is this your way of saying that you were wrong, LOL! Once again, you are trying to make my values the same as yours, the very thing you are complaining about. > >> > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you just > >> > let it go and pay the bills??? If so, can I have it? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Nowhere. Like you I checked, but unlike you, he didn't abuse my name. And if he did, what exactly would you have done and I'm not talking about a little joke like TG, I am talking identity theft. > >> >> If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, > >> >> maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your name, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > long before you learn that what may be a big joke to you could be enough to > get your name abused all over the net? There is a big difference between abuse and theft, you do know that, right??? I did learn and that is why I don't use my real name. It makes me laugh that you still haven't figured that out. > >> > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and > >> > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > calling me that are those that are not no longer or never have been my > friends. There has been more than just this one thread where your friends tried to say something and just like now, you completely ignore it. > >> >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup > >> > either. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > That's your problem, Tom. You may not consider yourself to be anything or > anybody, and you don't think I should either. Talk about spin, LOL! > >> Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete hypocrite > >> that cannot accept that I am not you and will never be. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Roy said no such thing and he's not a hypocrite. While he didn't say the crap that you twisted it into, he most certainly did say that you are overreacting and have seem to have a victims mentality and it was not him I was calling a hypocrite, it was you. > >> >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for the > >> > first [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > No, you should take a cold, hard look at what your attitudes cause you to > treat others like. Like I said politically incorrect boy, look in the mirror. > >> Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit > >> you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If you were , as you say, "pissed", then you were offended, but I'm not > allowed to be offended, am I? You really need to turn off that moronic right wing yes/no mentality. There was a big difference between the two cases and if you can't see that, then you really are the idiot that you accused me of calling you. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything >> >> > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Lack of tolerance. Differing values. >> I was raised to respect the values of others, apparently you were not. > > You may have been raised that way, but you don't do it. I believe that > you > use the term "politically incorrect" to attempt to cover yourself here. I'm not the one telling another person their values are wrong. That is you. >> >> > I doubt very much >> >> > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > said you were hateful toward me and has nothing to do with Roy, Mac, or > anyone else and nobody called you an idiot. And you need to take a remedial reading course as I was stating they did not call me names, like you which was implied in the sentence structure. > At best, I may have asked you > if you were one with some of the responses I was getting but even I didn't > outright call you one. Yes, you have, Tom, and much worse than that. > But the fact that they did not call me on anything I > actually said shows it all, that you are overreacting to a minor thing is > such a matter that it can be called nothing less than childish and appears > (to me anyway) to be nothing more than your victims mentality and a > desperate need for attention. No, it shows only that they didn't reply in public forum. >> But then, Roy has respect for others values. > > Yes he does which is why he is trying to use the politically correct way > of > telling you to grow up and act like a man. Haven't you figured out why I will never take the advice of someone who is doing their absolute best to remain a non-friend and will discuss with a friend the same topic? I trust Roy, for example, but I do not trust you. >> >> > The only thing >> >> > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Once again, your hatefullness toward me distorts all you see. How is stating you don't know the meaning of a word, hatefulness? It is merely a fact of your existence. >> >> > You can >> >> > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > you don't or just fall back on your typical insults without explaining it, > then we will all know the truth. Your values will not let you understand. It would like trying to get an evolutionist to understand Creation. >> >> >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious >> >> >> >> threats [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > did > that little joke affect your values? It didn't "affect my values", it insulted me. My values have been around as long as the Bible. >> >> > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be > me, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > took > it here and know that you are caught.... No, Tom. You were angered and possibly insulted or embarrased by checkmate's use of your name. You were offended. >> >> > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to >> >> > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > saying that you were wrong, LOL! Once again, you are trying to make my > values the same as yours, the very thing you are complaining about. No, Tom. The topic is my values. Of course, if you don't want to discuss them, then feel free to stop replying. >> >> > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you > just [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > a > little joke like TG, I am talking identity theft. Since he didn't, there was no need to do anything. What I would have done, I cannot say because it hasn't happened. >> >> >> If you were angered, upset, inflamed, irate, irritated, >> >> >> maddened, or felt belittiled by checkmate's activities with your [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > me > laugh that you still haven't figured that out. I have figured it out, Tom, and if you acted towards checkmate like you have me, then you probably know why it happened. Since I am not like you, then I'm not as likely to treat someone else in a manner that might cause them to take such a revenge on me. >> >> > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and >> >> > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > There has been more than just this one thread where your friends tried to > say something and just like now, you completely ignore it. If I discussed it with them or even replied to their post, I didn't ignore them, I chose to go my own way. Even by continuing with this useless discussion with you, you cannot claim I'm ignoring you. I'm just not taking your advice nor accepting your insistence that my values are wrong. >> >> >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup >> >> > either. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Talk about spin, LOL! No, that the dirty secret of liberalism, evolution and communism. By their standards, you are an animal, only an animal, and therefore worth no more than an animal. To be truly a liberal, an evolutionist or a communist, you cvannot consider yourself or anyone else to have worth. You really need to study what you believe in, Tom. >> >> Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete > hypocrite [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > and > it was not him I was calling a hypocrite, it was you. Roy only said he felt I was over-reacting, don't YOU put words in his mouth. >> >> >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for > the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Like I said politically incorrect boy, look in the mirror. I treat you as you treat me, only better. I don't use your preferred forms of expression. >> >> Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit >> >> you [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > was a big difference between the two cases and if you can't see that, then > you really are the idiot that you accused me of calling you. If I turned off the "right wing yes/no mentality" then I would have to be a liberal. DUH!!! And again you called me an idiot, so there is no accusation, only statement of fact. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > >> >> >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything > >> >> > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Differing values. And the lack of tolerance of those that do not agree with yours. > >> I was raised to respect the values of others, apparently you were not. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm not the one telling another person their values are wrong. That is you. Really, where????? I am not referring to your values, only the terrible way you treat others and then use them as a excuse for doing it. > >> >> > I doubt very much > >> >> > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > And you need to take a remedial reading course as I was stating they did not > call me names, like you which was implied in the sentence structure. You need a remedial comprehention course as I know what you meant and was saying that it simply wasn't true. Not only did I not imply that Roy or anyone else said those things, I flat out said that they didn't. Care to try and spin it again? > > At best, I may have asked you > > if you were one with some of the responses I was getting but even I didn't > > outright call you one. > > Yes, you have, Tom, and much worse than that. Yes I did, in the past but we are (or at least I am) talking about right now. > > But the fact that they did not call me on anything I > > actually said shows it all, that you are overreacting to a minor thing is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No, it shows only that they didn't reply in public forum. Like I said, you see only what you want to see, no matter how wrong it is. > >> But then, Roy has respect for others values. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > doing their absolute best to remain a non-friend and will discuss with a > friend the same topic? You can accuse me of whatever you want to, it really doesn't matter. The truth Budd, is that you need someone to hate and have choosen me. As for a discussion, more complete BS. While you may respond to such posts, you discuss nothing, only make attempts to justify what you do and take no advice from anyone, friend or not. > I trust Roy, for example, but I do not trust you. You may say you trust him, but you don't listen to him, or anyone else for that matter. > >> >> > The only thing > >> >> > really stopping them from flat out saying it to you is that unlike [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > How is stating you don't know the meaning of a word, hatefulness? It is > merely a fact of your existence. Your last sentence does nothing but prove my point. > >> >> > You can > >> >> > try and hide behind religious beliefs and political incorrectness [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Your values will not let you understand. It would like trying to get an > evolutionist to understand Creation. How would you know that if you don't even try. The truth is you didn't explain it because you can't and the rest is just spin. > >> >> >> >> It's odd that tb can get mad and make some really serious > >> >> >> >> threats [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > It didn't "affect my values", it insulted me. My values have been around as > long as the Bible. Ok, how exactly did it insult you. You still have yet to explain that. > >> >> > The lowlife POS hi-jacked my name and went around pretending to be > > me, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > No, Tom. You were angered and possibly insulted or embarrased by checkmate's > use of your name. You were offended. Offended, not really. Angry, yea and so would you be. > >> >> > Now only a complete idiot would not do something to > >> >> > prevent that from happening again. Are you an idiot Budd? Perhaps [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > No, Tom. The topic is my values. Of course, if you don't want to discuss > them, then feel free to stop replying. How can I discuss them when all you are doing is spinning. I asked a simple question and you have yet to answer it. Hell, even Roy asked it a few times and all you did was spin. > >> >> > If someone steals your credit card number and you find out, do you > > just [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > I'm not as likely to treat someone else in a manner that might cause them to > take such a revenge on me. Hahaha, you are kidding, right? The fact that you state that you're not politically correct shows that on average, you treat people worse than I do. > >> >> > Many people have distorted my handle such as shadetree and > >> >> > Redfag calling me boner. You you see me throwing a hissy fit over [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > discussion with you, you cannot claim I'm ignoring you. I'm just not taking > your advice nor accepting your insistence that my values are wrong. I never made any claimed on your values, only that your actions were unjustified. If you always go your own way (and you always do) then it is no different than ignoring them. Even Roy made the statement that he will no longer attempt to say anything to you because he knows that it is a complete waste of time. > >> >> >> BTW, Tom, tg didn't ask permission to use my name outside this goup > >> >> > either. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > than an animal. To be truly a liberal, an evolutionist or a communist, you > cvannot consider yourself or anyone else to have worth. More complete BS. What does evolution or even liberalism have to do with worth. Evolution simply states how we came to be and has nothing to do with worth. Even a liberal in the worst case simply says that all people have the same worth, not that they are all worthless. > You really need to study what you believe in, Tom. You don't have a clue as to what I believe in. > >> >> Someone that is so hateful and intolerant as well as a complete > > hypocrite [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Roy only said he felt I was over-reacting, don't YOU put words in his mouth. I didn't. He said that when you were being yourself in the union thread but at as usual, you ignored it. > >> >> >> Now, go mind your own business for a change . . . .correction, for > > the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I treat you as you treat me, only better. I don't use your preferred forms > of expression. Yea, right. > >> >> Now, wake up and realize that one fact remains, Tom, you need to admit > >> >> you [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > If I turned off the "right wing yes/no mentality" then I would have to be a > liberal. DUH!!! IOW, you would have a brain. I can see how that might scare you since then you would have to face up to how you act. > And again you called me an idiot, so there is no accusation, only statement > of fact. Then I guess that you have just said that you cannot see the difference between the two cases since that is the only way I could have called you an idiot with the above statement and if you cant, then you really are one, no accusation, only statement of fact! SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> >> >> >> And he admitted to using my name as a reference to anything >> >> >> > frustrating. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > And the lack of tolerance of those that do not agree with yours. Guess again. Hint: a lack of tolerance for those that lack tolerance and yet brag on their tolerance. >> >> I was raised to respect the values of others, apparently you were not. >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > way > you treat others and then use them as a excuse for doing it. Horse kaka. Read back thru the entire at the number of times you told me I was over-reacting, too strict or just plain wrong in following / defending my values, if you dare. >> >> >> > I doubt very much >> >> >> > that your mother brought you up this way and yes Budd, you are an [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > You need a remedial comprehention course as I know what you meant and was > saying that it simply wasn't true. Horse kaka. Man you're pi |
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