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William Boyd - 27 Apr 2006 19:34 GMT
I just received this e-mail thought I would share it with
you to do what ever you want. I guess I'll have to think
about what Chinese merchandise I want to buy on Communist
May Day.

Subject: Offset Illegal's boycott - Buy on May 1st

This was on the news; it's time to decide where we stand.

 As you may know, on May 1st, a large nationwide boycott is
being
> planned by Mexicans both legal and illegal; plus those
> sympathetic to their cause. The plan is to not work, to
not go to
> school, to not purchase from U.S. businesses to show the
> financial loss to the U.S. economy, thus showing the
"power" these
> several million have to Congress and our Government.
>
> It is the purpose of this E-mail to rally America to
negate these
> proposed "losses" by doing all of our purchases on that day,
> May 1st. Go to work, go to school, and hire LEGAL U.S.
citizens to do
> the work these protesters would have done. So, put
> off buying gas, food, and any purchases or hired workers
until May
1st
> if at all possible. Do your own lawn, sweep your own
> driveway, wash your own dishes, clean your own house or
business, or
> hire a legal American citizen to do it. It's time for
> America to wake up and send a message of our own to those
who think
> they have the power to change our country to suit
> their needs and wants. Majority rules, and makes the
rules. We just
> want the rules followed...by everyone! It's time again for
> the "Silent Majority" to be silent no longer. NEGATE THE
BOYCOTT ON
> MAY 1, 2006. "E Pluribus Unum".
>
> Please E-mail this to 10 ( or more ) of your friends and
relatives.
> It's URGENT!!

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GeekBoy - 27 Apr 2006 19:58 GMT
11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
citizens and resident aliens who have money.

>I just received this e-mail thought I would share it with you to do what
>ever you want. I guess I'll have to think about what Chinese merchandise I
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> relatives.
> > It's URGENT!!
Carolina Watercraft Works - 27 Apr 2006 20:25 GMT
And they'll still end up buying the goods they need either the
next day or the day before so what is the difference?  Unless
they can cease to exist completely for one day then it's a silly
idea IMO.  Which if you think about it....might not be a bad
idea....lol.

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> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
> citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>> relatives.
>> > It's URGENT!!
GeekBoy - 27 Apr 2006 20:30 GMT
> And they'll still end up buying the goods they need either the
> next day or the day before so what is the difference?  Unless
> they can cease to exist completely for one day then it's a silly
> idea IMO.  Which if you think about it....might not be a bad
> idea....lol.

Yes it is a silly idea. If they were so smart Mexico would be better off
economically.

>> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>> citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>>> relatives.
>>> > It's URGENT!!
mac davis - 28 Apr 2006 15:48 GMT
>> And they'll still end up buying the goods they need either the
>> next day or the day before so what is the difference?  Unless
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Yes it is a silly idea. If they were so smart Mexico would be better off
>economically.

What pisses me off is that we're moving to Mexico (legally) and you wouldn't
believe all the hoops you have to jump through, especially if you WANT to
work... and no matter what work permit you have with your visa, you can NOT do a
job that might take one away from a Mexican citizen...

SO, forget bar tending, building, remodeling, landscape, etc....

Georgia just passed a law saying that you have to be in the country legally to
receive public assistance... sounds like a no-brainer, right?

It looks like it will be over turned because it discriminates!!
Against who, illegal aliens?
oh.. I think that's Undocumented Immigrants now.... *sigh*

Mac

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miles - 29 Apr 2006 02:22 GMT
> What pisses me off is that we're moving to Mexico (legally) and you wouldn't
> believe all the hoops you have to jump through, especially if you WANT to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Against who, illegal aliens?
> oh.. I think that's Undocumented Immigrants now.... *sigh*

The illegals played the race card several times recently.  Thats not
going to win much support.
SnoMan - 28 Apr 2006 02:42 GMT
>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>citizens and resident aliens who have money.

What planet are you from? WHo do you think foots the bill for them?
Also at last count we were no where near 350 million.
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Paul O. - 28 Apr 2006 02:52 GMT
>>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com

And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
fighting the Mexicans to re gain our country. It better happen before it
gets too far gone. I wonder just how far we will let this crap go.
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miles - 28 Apr 2006 03:35 GMT
And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
fighting the Mexicans to re gain our country. It better happen before it
gets too far gone. I wonder just how far we will let this crap go.
-- Paul O. oplholik@gmail.com

What I find interesting is that the majority of legal Mexican immigrants
oppose any form of amnesty.  They went through the long hard legal
process and are irritated that millions might get a free ride to bypass
what they went through to become a citizen.
Roy - 28 Apr 2006 14:00 GMT
> And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
> electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
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> and are irritated that millions might get a free ride to bypass what they
> went through to become a citizen.

Here the illegals are pissed off because they are not getting financial aid
for college. They should be first taught what illegal means.

Roy
SnoMan - 28 Apr 2006 12:35 GMT
>And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
>fighting the Mexicans to re gain our country. It better happen before it
>gets too far gone. I wonder just how far we will let this crap go.

What I find the most troubling is that they come here and do not even
want to learn the langue. Around here there is a lot of them. One of
my daughters works in a pharmacy and they do not speak english nor
have any desire too and expect others to understand their language.
(most have some state aid to pay for drugs too while residents do not)
She has had 4 years of spanish so she can manage but she should not
have too. If I went to Mexico or China, I would expect myself to learn
their language if I wanted to live there not them to learn mine .
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Roy - 28 Apr 2006 13:56 GMT
>>And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>>electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com

Although I agree with you in this case, reread your post before complaining.

Roy
TBone - 28 Apr 2006 14:01 GMT
> >>And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
> >>electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Although I agree with you in this case, reread your post before complaining.

You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
speak any of the American Indian languages.

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GeekBoy - 28 Apr 2006 16:31 GMT
Another moron comment from Bone Head

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Evidence grows N. America's first colonizers were European

LONDON - Stone Age Europeans were the first trans-Atlantic sailors. Columbus
and the Vikings were mere ocean-crossing latecomers, according to a leading
American anthropologist. Dennis Stanford, of the Smithsonian Institution in
Washington, says Neolithic fishermen and hunters sailed the Atlantic in tiny
boats made of animal skins 18,000 years ago and colonized the eastern United
States.

Such a journey would represent one of the most astonishing migrations ever
undertaken - the Earth was then in the grip of the Ice Age and much of its
high northern and southern latitudes were desolate wastelands blasted by
storms and blizzards.

On the other hand, much of the planet's water was locked in icecaps and
glaciers, and sea levels would have been much lower than today's. The edges
of the continents would have extended further into the oceans.

"The gap between Europe and America was greatly reduced," Stanford said. "It
could have been quite feasible for fishermen and whale and seal hunters to
sail around the southern rim of the packs of sea-ice that covered the North
Atlantic and reach land around the Banks of Newfoundland."

Stanford's theory - outlined at a recent archaeology conference in Santa Fe,
N.M. - is based on discoveries indicating ancient American people were
culturally far more like the Neolithic tribes of France, Spain and Ireland
than the Asian people whom scientists had previously thought to be the sole
prehistoric settlers of North America.

Stanford also points out although modern Native Americans possess DNA
similar to that of Asians, they also carry some variants found only in
European people. This genetic input could only be explained by accepting
Stone Age people could sail ocean-going boats, he said.

"We now know that human beings learned to sail 50,000 years before the
present," he said. "Mankind settled in Australia then and it was not linked
by any land bridge to Asia. It could only have been reached by boat.
Clearly, we had mastered sailing tens of thousands of years before America
was colonized, so we should not be surprised by the idea that people took
boat trips across the Atlantic 18,000 years ago."

The theory that prehistoric Europeans colonized America was first put
forward in the 1950s by archaeologist Frank Hibben, but was discredited by
evidence supporting the notion the continent was populated 20,000 to 15,000
years ago by Asian migrants who walked across the land bridge then linking
Siberia with Alaska, and who then trekked south through the continent.

Stanford does not disagree Asian folk colonized ancient America, but argues
current genetic and archaeological evidence shows an influx of Europeans
must also have taken place. The prime candidates for these migrants are the
Solutrean people who lived in Spain 23,000 to 18,000 years ago and later
colonized parts of France and Ireland.

They designed and made beautifully crafted fluted stone blades that bore a
striking similarity to those made by the Clovis people who lived in America
11,000 years ago. Like the Clovis, the Solutreans made stone scrapers to
prepare hides and kept stores of stone implements, buried in red ocher,
round the countryside. These ancient Spaniards therefore must have been
among the first New World settlers, Stanford says. Native Americans are
Iberian, not Siberian, in origin.

The theory's main problem stems from the fact an Atlantic crossing in tiny
Ice Age boats would have been an awesome undertaking. However, Stanford
argues it would have been a less arduous undertaking than might be expected.
"If a storm arrived, they would have camped on an ice island until the
weather got better. Eventually they would have drifted west until they reach
eastern America," he said.

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>> >>And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>> >>electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will
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> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> speak any of the American Indian languages.
TBone - 29 Apr 2006 03:23 GMT
I thought that you were going to kill file me.  I knew you weren't bright
enough to figure out how.  Now the point of this longwinded post is?????

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> Another moron comment from Bone Head
>
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> > You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> > speak any of the American Indian languages.
miles - 29 Apr 2006 02:19 GMT
> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> speak any of the American Indian languages.

Oh good grief.
TBone - 29 Apr 2006 03:48 GMT
> > You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> > speak any of the American Indian languages.
>
> Oh good grief.

LOL, are you saying that it didn't happen Miles?

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miles - 29 Apr 2006 05:32 GMT
>>> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
>>> speak any of the American Indian languages.
>> Oh good grief.
>
> LOL, are you saying that it didn't happen Miles?

What exactly happened?  You trying to compare it to 11 million Mexicans
who crossed the border illegally?  Good grief.
TBone - 03 May 2006 23:34 GMT
> >>> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> >>> speak any of the American Indian languages.
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> What exactly happened?  You trying to compare it to 11 million Mexicans
> who crossed the border illegally?  Good grief.

LOL, think about it Miles and you will see just how similar it really is.
While the methods may be different, the end result will be much the same.

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Dale Yonz - 02 May 2006 06:59 GMT
On 4/28/06 7:01 AM, in article 4no4g.11791$P65.10689@southeast.rr.com,

>>>> And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>>>> electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
> speak any of the American Indian languages.

We can use the word Indian no more. They are called "first nations"
Steve Ackman - 02 May 2006 08:46 GMT
>> You have a good point here Roy.  I don't know to many Americans who can
>> speak any of the American Indian languages.
>
> We can use the word Indian no more. They are called "first nations"

 They refer to themselves by clan to others of the
same tribe.  To "Anglos," "Whites," or "Biniganas"
they refer to themselves by tribe.  In general, here
on the rez, Indians use the term Indian, though you'll
sometimes hear "Diné" in the Navajo Nation, as large
as West Virginia, and the largest of the reservations.
mac davis - 04 May 2006 06:51 GMT
>On 4/28/06 7:01 AM, in article 4no4g.11791$P65.10689@southeast.rr.com,
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>We can use the word Indian no more. They are called "first nations"

Called "Native Americans" here.. which sounds like dinosaurs to me...
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SnoMan - 28 Apr 2006 19:14 GMT
>>>And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>>>electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>Roy

Who's complaining, just starting a observation and a point of view.
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TBone - 28 Apr 2006 13:59 GMT
> >And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
> >electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> have too. If I went to Mexico or China, I would expect myself to learn
> their language if I wanted to live there not them to learn mine .

Then you should love the fact that someone just converted our national
anthem to Spanish as well.

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Dale Yonz - 02 May 2006 06:47 GMT
Here in Canada we have to put up with French writing on everything we buy.
On our cereal boxes, toothpaste, chocolate bars etc etc. there has to be
french as well as English.
You buy electrontic product, you get two instruction booklets, one in french
and the other in english.
This costs extra money, so the consumer pays for it.
I got a yamaha rhino, and half of the decals had to be in french. Out came
the heat gun and peeled them off.

Canada has to be billingual, yeah right. The British kick the frenchmen
a.ses in a war couple hundred years ago, so why force french on the rest of
us.

Just wait, my southern friends, maybe it's happening already. You will be
reading or staring at spanish everyday on your instruction manuals on new
products that you buy.
While having breakfast, you will be reading spanish on your milk cartons,
cereal boxes.
There will be billingual signs at airports, trains, etc. etc

dale

On 4/28/06 5:35 AM, in article p3v352dg2t1rrag41ug9oucl4d6q94erah@4ax.com,

>> And we are footing the bill because of all the idiot politicans we keep
>> electing to office that want it to happen. I'm afraid one day we will be
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com
Tom Lawrence - 02 May 2006 07:49 GMT
> There will be billingual signs at airports, trains, etc. etc

You obviously don't get down into the States much, do ya, Dale?

Next thing you'll be telling us the horses and buggies will be replaced with
motorcars  :)
Dale Yonz - 02 May 2006 08:01 GMT
You mean you got billingual signs in mexican and english?

On 5/2/06 12:49 AM, in article
kiD5g.242$Ae1.51@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Tom Lawrence"
<tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> There will be billingual signs at airports, trains, etc. etc
>
> You obviously don't get down into the States much, do ya, Dale?
>
> Next thing you'll be telling us the horses and buggies will be replaced with
> motorcars  :)
miles - 02 May 2006 14:03 GMT
> You mean you got billingual signs in mexican and english?

Here in Arizona there are tons of signs, billboards etc. in Spanish.
Signs in public places are in both languages.
Dale Yonz - 04 May 2006 06:44 GMT
It's been a long time since I have been in Arizona, like Feb 1975.

On 5/2/06 7:03 AM, in article wMI5g.9964$XV5.4688@fed1read10, "miles"
<nope@nopers.com> wrote:

>> You mean you got billingual signs in mexican and english?
>
> Here in Arizona there are tons of signs, billboards etc. in Spanish.
> Signs in public places are in both languages.
TBone - 02 May 2006 14:07 GMT
It is getting difficult to find the English writing on boxes of just about
anything anymore.

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> You mean you got billingual signs in mexican and english?
>
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> > Next thing you'll be telling us the horses and buggies will be replaced with
> > motorcars  :)
mac davis - 04 May 2006 06:49 GMT
>> There will be billingual signs at airports, trains, etc. etc
>
>You obviously don't get down into the States much, do ya, Dale?
>
>Next thing you'll be telling us the horses and buggies will be replaced with
>motorcars  :)

klop.... klop.... klop...
bang!
klop-klop... klop-klop...

(Amish drive-by)

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miles - 02 May 2006 14:01 GMT
> Just wait, my southern friends, maybe it's happening already. You will be
> reading or staring at spanish everyday on your instruction manuals on new
> products that you buy.
> While having breakfast, you will be reading spanish on your milk cartons,
> cereal boxes.
> There will be billingual signs at airports, trains, etc. etc

Already is here in Arizona.  Billboards all over town are in spanish.
Signs at public places are in both languages.  Government has been
forced by law to print any public documents in both languages.

One thing I don't think will happen that has in Quebec.  Businesses do
not have to alter their name to conform to French.  Street signs do not
have to be in French etc.  Products can be sold in English without
having to be first translated to French such as DVD's etc.
mac davis - 04 May 2006 06:48 GMT
Same here, Dale.. but either in English & Spanish, or English, Spanish, German &
French...

>Here in Canada we have to put up with French writing on everything we buy.
>On our cereal boxes, toothpaste, chocolate bars etc etc. there has to be
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>> The SnoMan
>> www.thesnoman.com

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Advocate - 28 Apr 2006 08:27 GMT
>>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>citizens and resident aliens who have money.
>
> What planet are you from? WHo do you think foots the bill for them?
> Also at last count we were no where near 350 million.

Foots what bill? Who foots the bill for you?
SnoMan - 28 Apr 2006 12:38 GMT
>>>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>>citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Foots what bill? Who foots the bill for you?

I do, not pays my way and I even have 2 health insurance carriers too
to help manage soaring health costs that costs us over 400 a month out
of our pocket. Without good insurance, one trip to hospital can wipe
you out yet most illegal are given free health care here.
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mac davis - 28 Apr 2006 15:53 GMT
>>>>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>>>citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>The SnoMan
>www.thesnoman.com

Federal law, Sno... emergency medical care and education to 8th grade, if I
remember right...
You tax dollars at work...

Mac

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SnoMan - 28 Apr 2006 19:16 GMT
>Federal law, Sno... emergency medical care and education to 8th grade, if I
>remember right...
>You tax dollars at work...

Maybe but there is something wrong with that law that let illegals get
free health care and residents pay through the nose for it. I pay for
it in insurance premiums that pay high health care cost for those that
have to pay to cover those that do not and it is time for it to stop.
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Bob M - 28 Apr 2006 21:51 GMT
> Maybe but there is something wrong with that law that let illegals get
> free health care and residents pay through the nose for it. I pay for
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> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com

 There was a story on the local PBS station here in Dallas last week
about the plight of Parkland Hospital. (County hospital for Dallas
County) One of the people interviewed was an illegal alien having a
baby. Maria was in the ER having her 8th kid. She's here illegally and
the Dallas County tax payers are footing the bill. Things like this just
piss me off. I have no problem if they are here legally. But damn it,
round up the illegals and ship their butts back home!

 Bob
miles - 29 Apr 2006 03:14 GMT
> She's here illegally and
> the Dallas County tax payers are footing the bill. Things like this just
> piss me off. I have no problem if they are here legally. But damn it,
> round up the illegals and ship their butts back home!

Because their kids are US citizens born in the USA they won't deport the
parents.  There are a few in congress talking about a constitutional
amendment that requires one parent to be a legal US citizen in order for
their child to be a US citizen regardless of where the child is born.

It will have a tough time passing because illegals will play the race
card against it.
TBone - 29 Apr 2006 03:30 GMT
> > She's here illegally and
> > the Dallas County tax payers are footing the bill. Things like this just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> amendment that requires one parent to be a legal US citizen in order for
> their child to be a US citizen regardless of where the child is born.

That is just about the dumbest thing I ever heard and you are right, it will
never pass because it shouldn't as it goes against everything the ones who
founded this country stood for.  Now if they change it to at least one
parent was here legally with a visa or green card or is a citizen, then it
would at least stand a chance.

> It will have a tough time passing because illegals will play the race
> card against it.

So what, who cares.  It is time for both sides to grow a spine.

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miles - 29 Apr 2006 05:30 GMT
> "miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message

>> It will have a tough time passing because illegals will play the race
>> card against it.

> So what, who cares.  It is time for both sides to grow a spine.

Politicians have no spine when it comes to illegal aliens.  They will
never ever do anything to stop the flood.  They pander do them every
chance they can.
Paul O. - 29 Apr 2006 13:40 GMT
>> "miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> never ever do anything to stop the flood.  They pander do them every
> chance they can.

Don't our lawmakers take an oath to uphold the laws of our constitution and
laws of our land when they take office? Seems a big deal ought to be made of
this. They are ignoring the laws they are sworn to uphold. I don't beleive
there is an option to pick and choose which they uphold and enforce. We had
better start doing something or we are going to end up being even bigger
losers.
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GeekBoy - 29 Apr 2006 04:20 GMT
>> She's here illegally and the Dallas County tax payers are footing the
>> bill. Things like this just piss me off. I have no problem if they are
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> amendment that requires one parent to be a legal US citizen in order for
> their child to be a US citizen regardless of where the child is born.

Not an amendment to the constitution. Read it. There is nothing written that
gurantees everyone born here automatic citizenship.
They want to make laws.

> It will have a tough time passing because illegals will play the race card
> against it.\

But since when is 'Mexican' a race?
miles - 29 Apr 2006 05:36 GMT
> Not an amendment to the constitution. Read it. There is nothing written that
> gurantees everyone born here automatic citizenship.
> They want to make laws.

The 14th amendment does just that.  You're right though.  Not everyone.
 Children of heads of state are not automatically US citizens because
they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US necessarily.

14th states:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
wherein they reside.
GeekBoy - 29 Apr 2006 07:02 GMT
>> Not an amendment to the constitution. Read it. There is nothing written
>> that gurantees everyone born here automatic citizenship.
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> jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
> wherein they reside.

People who are not citizens are not under the juridiction of the US. For
example if you went to another country to work for a foreign company, you
would still be expected under US law to file and pay taxes on those
earnings.

A non-citizen is not under the juridiction of the US thus cannot be required
or forced to pay US income taxes even thought they may have visited the US
once before.
mac davis - 29 Apr 2006 17:32 GMT
>> She's here illegally and
>> the Dallas County tax payers are footing the bill. Things like this just
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>It will have a tough time passing because illegals will play the race
>card against it.

We have had 2 or 3 cases here in central CA (at least that many that the media
spot lighted) where the parents WERE deported but the kids had a choice of
staying... one guy had been here for like 30 years...

I feel sorry for them, but they bring it on themselves... You;d think that in 30
years he could have found a way to become legal..

Mac

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mac davis - 28 Apr 2006 15:52 GMT
>>>11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>>citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Foots what bill? Who foots the bill for you?

Don't know about him, but I foot the bill for me, and all the "undocumented
guests", with my tax dollars...

Like the sign says, I 'DO' work for food....

Mac

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Ron Webb - 28 Apr 2006 04:16 GMT
> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
> citizens and resident aliens who have money.

<snip>
I thought the intent was the illegals would be out in the street and the
jobs they perform wouldn't be getting done. I don't see how missing one day
of landscaping and tomato picking will have a great effect on the economy,
but I'm sure the media will be able to tell me what a great tragedy it is.
Paul O. - 28 Apr 2006 12:40 GMT
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>
>> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>sounding prejudiced, but I'm getting so tired of hearing about these people
>who for some reason, think they have, or should have rights here.
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mac davis - 28 Apr 2006 15:56 GMT
>> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>> citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>of landscaping and tomato picking will have a great effect on the economy,
>but I'm sure the media will be able to tell me what a great tragedy it is.

I live in an ag area and the boycott will cost the farmers big bucks...
Why?  Because legal immigrants are being forced by political correctness to walk
out that day...

Mac

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Roy - 28 Apr 2006 16:32 GMT
>>> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>> citizens and resident aliens who have money.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> to walk
> out that day...

Bro.. I do not understand wtf the problem is! If you or I did something
illegal we'd be in deep sh.t. These people are here and it is illegal for
them to be here. Seems pretty simple to me, unass them. Let those who
entered the country legally stay, those that didn't and are illegally bye,
bye. The ins just hit a factory north of here a couple of day's ago, grabbed
20+ that were illegal and are sending them back. Hopefully they will
continue this action

Roy

Roy
> Mac
>
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mac davis - 29 Apr 2006 17:37 GMT
>Bro.. I do not understand wtf the problem is! If you or I did something
>illegal we'd be in deep sh.t. These people are here and it is illegal for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Roy

The whole thing is stupid, but the organizers or this "protest need to get their
heads out of their a.ses...

They need to do one of 2 things, as I see it:

1. Have only illegals not work, to show the impact, if any, of them not being
here..

2. Call it a sympathy walkout and urge everyone to not work..

You can't say that you're showing the impact of Dodges on the hiway and have
fords and chevys not drive for a day... it doesn't show anything useful..

Mac

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Dale Yonz - 02 May 2006 07:10 GMT
On 4/28/06 9:32 AM, in article Q9qdnadnVvH9qM_ZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@comcast.com,

>>>> 11 million illegals with no money will have no effect on 350 million
>>>> citizens and resident aliens who have money.
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>> https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
>> https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

And if they come back and get caught again, cut a foot off :)))
That will slow them down next time
miles - 29 Apr 2006 02:23 GMT
> I live in an ag area and the boycott will cost the farmers big bucks...
> Why?  Because legal immigrants are being forced by political correctness to walk
> out that day...

Thats odd because most of the legal immigrants do not support giving
illegals an easy free ride.  They are not in support of all this BS.
mac davis - 29 Apr 2006 17:38 GMT
>> I live in an ag area and the boycott will cost the farmers big bucks...
>> Why?  Because legal immigrants are being forced by political correctness to walk
>> out that day...
>
>Thats odd because most of the legal immigrants do not support giving
>illegals an easy free ride.  They are not in support of all this BS.

Right... but at least here, there is heavy pressure for them to support other
Hispanics... another thing that bothers me, they try to make it a race issue
instead of a legal issue..

Mac

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Roy - 29 Apr 2006 18:53 GMT
>>> I live in an ag area and the boycott will cost the farmers big bucks...
>>> Why?  Because legal immigrants are being forced by political correctness
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> issue
> instead of a legal issue..

It is the same thing here the legals are pissed off. Further who the f.ck do
the spainish speaking illegals think they are? What about the asian's, those
in from the baltic area? Now the spaish are speaking for them? Who decided
they would rewrite the anthem? They did a poll on a Boston tv station about
the song. 97% against and this is a very liberal area.

You are correct they have turned it into a race issue.

Roy
> Mac
>
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miles - 28 Apr 2006 01:41 GMT
> I just received this e-mail thought I would share it with you to do what
> ever you want. I guess I'll have to think about what Chinese merchandise
> I want to buy on Communist May Day.
>
> Subject: Offset Illegal's boycott - Buy on May 1st

In Mexico they are planning to boycott American businesses to show
support for the illegals in the USA.  Ironically its the American
businesses that are lobbing in support of these illegals.  So not sure
how a boycott of them is going to help their cause.   Further more one
of the businesses listed to boycott in Mexico is Sears.  Sears in Mexico
is entirely Mexican owned and operated.
BigIronRam - 29 Apr 2006 03:25 GMT
>I just received this e-mail thought I would share it with you to do what
>ever you want. I guess I'll have to think about what Chinese merchandise I
>want to buy on Communist May Day.

I'm doing my part!  I've deliberately scheduled my new stereo install for
Monday, even though it's inconvenient for me.
miles - 29 Apr 2006 05:27 GMT
>  I'm doing my part!  I've deliberately scheduled my new stereo install for
> Monday, even though it's inconvenient for me.

Stereo install?  Do it yourself!!
GeekBoy - 29 Apr 2006 07:03 GMT
>>  I'm doing my part!  I've deliberately scheduled my new stereo install
>> for Monday, even though it's inconvenient for me.
>
> Stereo install?  Do it yourself!!

Why? Places like Best Buy will usually install it for FREE if you spend at
least $100 on a new stereo.
miles - 29 Apr 2006 11:23 GMT
> Why? Places like Best Buy will usually install it for FREE if you spend at
> least $100 on a new stereo.

LOL, ya but they sell alot of crap at outrageous prices.  The
installation is not free.  It's buried in the high price you pay.  The
quality of the installation is crap.  I buy my equipment from reputable
local independent shops and then install it myself.
Bob M - 29 Apr 2006 18:35 GMT
>> Why? Places like Best Buy will usually install it for FREE if you
>> spend at least $100 on a new stereo.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> quality of the installation is crap.  I buy my equipment from reputable
> local independent shops and then install it myself.

 As much as I hate Best Buy I do have to give them credit for doing
away with mail in rebates. At least here in the Dallas area. They are
the first retailer that I know of locally that had the "balls" to give
the discount to the customer on the spot. Now knowing Best Buy they
raised their prices to do it. But I do hate rebates.

 Bob
miles - 29 Apr 2006 19:14 GMT
>  As much as I hate Best Buy I do have to give them credit for doing away
> with mail in rebates. At least here in the Dallas area. They are the
> first retailer that I know of locally that had the "balls" to give the
> discount to the customer on the spot. Now knowing Best Buy they raised
> their prices to do it. But I do hate rebates.

I very rarely buy anything with a rebate.  I can almost always find it
at the same price or cheaper elsewhere without a rebate.  It seems to be
a 50/50 chance that I ever get the rebate sent to me.  Sure I can wait
an hour on the phone and argue over where my $20 is but I'd rather avoid
the whole mess to begin with.  Stores like CompUSA, Circuit City etc.
that have rebates on almost everything they sell do not get my business.
Bob M - 30 Apr 2006 17:55 GMT
>>  As much as I hate Best Buy I do have to give them credit for doing
>> away with mail in rebates. At least here in the Dallas area. They are
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> the whole mess to begin with.  Stores like CompUSA, Circuit City etc.
> that have rebates on almost everything they sell do not get my business.

 I agree. I buy almost everything I need online now. I don't have to
deal with rebates and the prices are usually cheaper than Best Buy,
Circuit City, CompUSA, etc.

 Bob
Bryan - 02 May 2006 04:18 GMT
> >>  As much as I hate Best Buy I do have to give them credit for doing
> >> away with mail in rebates. At least here in the Dallas area. They are
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>   Bob

http://www.newegg.com/ and http://www.outpost.com/ (Fry's Electronics) seem
to have consistently low prices on electronics.
Bryan
BigIronRam - 30 Apr 2006 01:56 GMT
>> Why? Places like Best Buy will usually install it for FREE if you spend
>> at least $100 on a new stereo.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> installation is crap.  I buy my equipment from reputable local independent
> shops and then install it myself.

I had a local independent I trusted, they let me down last year so I'm
giving car toys a shot.
BigIronRam - 30 Apr 2006 01:21 GMT
>>  I'm doing my part!  I've deliberately scheduled my new stereo install
>> for Monday, even though it's inconvenient for me.
>
> Stereo install?  Do it yourself!!

I'm doing cartoys this time.  Wiring isn't one of my better talents.  What
I mean is I can do a fine job, it's just that I don't like it and tend to
hurry too much.  And there's always the temptation to really hurry and wrap
it up with electrical tape...
miles - 30 Apr 2006 05:10 GMT
>  I'm doing cartoys this time.  Wiring isn't one of my better talents.  What
> I mean is I can do a fine job, it's just that I don't like it and tend to
> hurry too much.  And there's always the temptation to really hurry and wrap
> it up with electrical tape...

I generally solder all connections and use heat shrink tubing.
Electrical tape always comes unraveled in the summer heat.
Dale Yonz - 02 May 2006 07:33 GMT
How about taken a Mexican out for lunch :)))

On 4/28/06 8:25 PM, in article T4idnf6LHtFRU8_Z4p2dnA@comcast.com,

>> I just received this e-mail thought I would share it with you to do what
>> ever you want. I guess I'll have to think about what Chinese merchandise I
>> want to buy on Communist May Day.
>
>  I'm doing my part!  I've deliberately scheduled my new stereo install for
> Monday, even though it's inconvenient for me.
 
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