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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / May 2006

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Brake Line

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scorpioex1@msn.com - 01 May 2006 01:27 GMT
All my vehicles are falling apart.  1996, Ram SLT, 1500, 5.9, Now the
rear brake line blew just in front of the rear wheel on the drivers
side.  It rusted out where there was a rubber nub on the line, I assume
to protect it from a bolt head nearby and whole front reservoir for the
brake fluid went dry.   I've heard of being able to splice in a piece
but have never done anything like this.  The whole line actually looks
bad.  Do you have to remove the fuel tank to replace this?  Do they
make a piece for this or do you buy tubing and bend it?  I was reading
in the Haynes Manual but it isn't real specific.  The bleading
procedure seems kind of complicated too.  Any help would be
appriciated.

Steve
gunbunny31@msn.com - 01 May 2006 02:02 GMT
Do not! I repeat, Do Not splice a brake line. Replace it!
If your not going to to it right, then do me a favor, don't drive
behind me.
If your not sure how to do this, hire a pro.
TBone - 01 May 2006 03:33 GMT
Oh, give me a break.  If done properly, a splice will work just fine.

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> Do not! I repeat, Do Not splice a brake line. Replace it!
> If your not going to to it right, then do me a favor, don't drive
> behind me.
> If your not sure how to do this, hire a pro.
Ken - 01 May 2006 12:25 GMT
> Oh, give me a break.  If done properly, a splice will work just fine.

He said the whole brake line looks bad, why take a chance on it?

Ken W
TBone - 02 May 2006 14:29 GMT
That is not the point.  The point was that the person I responded to made a
general comment that any repaired line is unsafe and that is complete
bullshit.  As for the OP's line, since I didn't see it, I have no idea how
bad it really is because sometimes they look far worse than they really are,
do you actually know?

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> > Oh, give me a break.  If done properly, a splice will work just fine.
>
> He said the whole brake line looks bad, why take a chance on it?
>
> Ken W
clare at snyder.on.ca - 01 May 2006 05:02 GMT
>Do not! I repeat, Do Not splice a brake line. Replace it!
>If your not going to to it right, then do me a favor, don't drive
>behind me.
>If your not sure how to do this, hire a pro.

A PROPERLY spliced brake line is safe. It entails double flaring the
solid portion of the line, and using a proper flare nut and coupling
to connect a replacement brake line of the proper type, size, and
material. NEVER use compression fittings or copper tubing, and do not
attempt it without the proper double flaring tool anf a certain level
of expertise in its use.
gunbunny31@msn.com - 01 May 2006 12:40 GMT
A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
to the job.
The likelyhood of the whole line being rusted and crap is there. might
just as well replace it. Why would you half a.s the job? you would just
be going back under the truck in a month or two anyway.
Roy - 01 May 2006 14:14 GMT
>A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
> to the job.
> The likelyhood of the whole line being rusted and crap is there. might
> just as well replace it. Why would you half a.s the job? you would just
> be going back under the truck in a month or two anyway.

I'm with the bunny on this. Why would ya go through the bs? If it is going
away in one place....Imo it is easier to replace the line rather than
attempt a splice.

Reading the op he would probably be better served sending the repair out.

Roy
TBone - 01 May 2006 19:03 GMT
> >A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
> > to the job.
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>
> Roy

My brake line had failed in the same place   That line is a PITA to "just
replace" but is not all that difficult to repair where it failed.  I can't
speak for the OP here, but in my case, the line was ok (like new actually)
about 1 foot past the bend where they "all" seem to fail so I simply
replaced it from that point up to the manifold where it begins.  If the
whole line seems rotten, then I completely agree, replace the whole thing
but doing that is not easy and unless you can somehow find a direct factory
pre-bent replacement, you will still need just about ALL of the same tools
and abilities that are required to repair it.

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Christopher  Thompson - 02 May 2006 01:25 GMT
> > >A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
> > > to the job.
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> pre-bent replacement, you will still need just about ALL of the same tools
> and abilities that are required to repair it.

did MOPAR go out of business?

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TBone - 02 May 2006 14:25 GMT
> > > >A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
> > > > to the job.
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> >
> did MOPAR go out of business?

Not that I'm aware of so exactly what is the part #, cost, and availability
of the rear line for that year RAM and is it pre-bent.

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clare at snyder.on.ca - 02 May 2006 16:36 GMT
>>A properly spliced brake line is safe. If you have the proper tools to
>> to the job.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Roy

There are some situations, where most of the line is protected, and/or
in a difficult to reach position, where replacement is difficult, and
repair is simpler, and adequate. I'ce replaced the last foot of
full-length main brake lines on many vehicles.
Joe Brophy - 01 May 2006 05:32 GMT
>Do not! I repeat, Do Not splice a brake line. Replace it!
>If your not going to to it right, then do me a favor, don't drive
>behind me.
>If your not sure how to do this, hire a pro.
Seems I heard about a tip on brake lines whereby a guy was using
surplus solid rocket gasket material from the Space Shuttle SRB
program.

Haven't heard the guy post here for a while however.  Who knows we may
be seeing the beginning of another NASA development that has
application  far and wide from it's original usage.  Could very well
be following in the footsteps of WD-40, or Teflon.

History unfolding here and now, regards, Joe.
 
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