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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / June 2006

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95 dodge dakota 4x4

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bassman - 21 May 2006 13:44 GMT
i have a 95 dodge dakota and two weeks ago i went out to start it and
nothing,i did a tune-up new coil,new fuel pump,and still, no spark,and
no fuel, the truck came equipped with a viper remote starter / alarm,
hed the truck towed to a local garage and after a week there they
brought it back and had no idea,can someone give me an idea whats going
on?
Christopher  Thompson - 21 May 2006 16:23 GMT
first thought is to make sure that the viper alarm's disconnect relay is
kicking in like its supposed to to allow power to what ever it disconnects
to disable the vehicle.  now im not familar with how that particular alarm
works (what it disconnects or what else it may tie into) so i couldnt help
you any further with that part.

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> i have a 95 dodge dakota and two weeks ago i went out to start it and
> nothing,i did a tune-up new coil,new fuel pump,and still, no spark,and
> no fuel, the truck came equipped with a viper remote starter / alarm,
> hed the truck towed to a local garage and after a week there they
> brought it back and had no idea,can someone give me an idea whats going
> on?
bassman - 21 May 2006 16:33 GMT
can you tell me where this is located and what it looks like?,or better
yet if i disconnect all the wires from the alarm will this correct the
problem or will i have to rewire the truck to get power back to the
coil and fuel pump?
Marsh Monster - 21 May 2006 21:21 GMT
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> can you tell me where this is located and what it looks like?,or better
> yet if i disconnect all the wires from the alarm will this correct the
> problem or will i have to rewire the truck to get power back to the
> coil and fuel pump?

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bassman - 23 May 2006 20:26 GMT
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> ~sips his mushroome tea.....~
> ~:~okay now i am really baffled i completely diconnected the alarm system and still have no fuel or spark HELP ANYONE!
bassman - 23 May 2006 20:30 GMT
okay now i am really baffled,i completly disconnected the alarm/remote
starter system,and still no power or fuel does anyone have an idea what
could be wrong now!
Tom R - 23 May 2006 21:31 GMT
> okay now i am really baffled,i completly disconnected the alarm/remote
> starter system,and still no power or fuel does anyone have an idea what
> could be wrong now!

My guess would be that when they installed the alarm system, they
had to cut some wires and splice the alarm into the circut, now
that you removed the alarm the wires have to be reconnected.
TR
bassman - 24 May 2006 00:20 GMT
i went over everything and before i disconnected wires i followed them
where they reconnect so all the wires are back together as per color
code,but still no power?
Nosey - 24 May 2006 02:49 GMT
> i went over everything and before i disconnected wires i followed them
> where they reconnect so all the wires are back together as per color
> code,but still no power?

Is the starter completely dead or does it crank but not start? I've
installed a few DEI alarms. What model number Viper do you have?
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Ken

bassman - 24 May 2006 11:21 GMT
yes the starter turns over fine but the fuel pump does not turn on
(newly installed) and i have no spark coming from the coil aslo(new)
plugs,cap,rotr,all new,the alarm is a viper 552 model
Nosey - 24 May 2006 19:17 GMT
> yes the starter turns over fine but the fuel pump does not turn on
> (newly installed) and i have no spark coming from the coil aslo(new)
> plugs,cap,rotr,all new,the alarm is a viper 552 model

I couldn't find *any* info for a Viper 522. Are you sure that is the model
number?
The Viper models that I'm familiar with use a heavy gauge relay harness for
the remote start. The factory ignition circuit isn't normally bypassed when
installing this harness. That way if the remote start circuit fails the
vehicle will still start with the key. The starter disable circuit (if
installed) only grounds the starter motor, not the ignition so that isn't
your problem either. The wiring on the remote start relay harness is only a
couple of feet long so it's probably hooked up directly to the ignition
switch harness inside the steering column. Remove the steering column trim
panel and inspect the wiring there. Make sure the factory dark blue wire and
the black wire aren't cut or damaged. Those are the ignition wires. I'm not
sure if both of those wires are supposed to be hot during cranking, but if
you don't have voltage on at least one of those wires with the key in the
crank position, the ignition switch is bad. I hope this helps.

This is a list of what the factory ignition switch harness wire colors
/should/ be.
Constant 12V+ ~ Pink/Black
Starter ~ Yellow
Ignition ~ Dark Blue
Ignition 2 ~ Black
Accessory ~ Black/Orange
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Ken

bassman - 12 Jun 2006 14:54 GMT
> > yes the starter turns over fine but the fuel pump does not turn on
> > (newly installed) and i have no spark coming from the coil aslo(new)
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> Ignition 2 ~ Black
> Accessory ~ Black/Orange
bassman - 12 Jun 2006 14:56 GMT
still can not get this junk running cna anyone help?
> > yes the starter turns over fine but the fuel pump does not turn on
> > (newly installed) and i have no spark coming from the coil aslo(new)
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Ignition 2 ~ Black
> Accessory ~ Black/Orange
Nosey - 12 Jun 2006 16:11 GMT
>>> yes the starter turns over fine but the fuel pump does not turn on
>>> (newly installed) and i have no spark coming from the coil aslo(new)
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>> Ken

> still can not get this junk running cna anyone help?

Did you check for voltage in the ignition switch harness harness yet?
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Ken

 
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