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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / June 2006

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1999 Durango 5.9L Engine Malfunction Questino???

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bobmct - 30 May 2006 02:33 GMT
Gentlemen;

My D with 120K miles has started doing something strange and I don't know
what might be causing it.  Before I bring it to the dealer I thought I
would try asking here.

It's been running quite well. However, about 1-2 weeks ago it started
cranking very slowly.  I thought it might be the battery so I've been
carrying around a self-contained jumper pack.  However, here's how the
symptoms usually go:

I try to crank it and it barely or does NOT turn over.  Sounds like its
coming up on the compression cycle and stops cranking.  However, when I
connect the jumper pack it then seems to turn over normally then starts.

Once started, is won't continue running.  If I heal & toe it I can keep the
revs up sufficient to keep it running.  But, when I shift into drive it
will stall.  But this time it cranks over just fine and usually starts.
Then, when I back down my driveway into the road and stop to change
direction, it stalls.  Another restart.  I drive <1 mile to the corner of
my street and it stalls.  Another start on its own power and the engine
starts but when I come to the next stop sign... it stalls.

Obviously I cannot drive this car like this.  Does ANYONE have any ideas
relative to  this problem?  When it runs... it runs great.  But not this
time.

I will be eagerly awaiting any and all replies.

Thank you,

Bob M
GeekBoy - 30 May 2006 03:19 GMT
> Gentlemen;
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> I will be eagerly awaiting any and all replies.

Try disconnecting the battery while it is running. If it dies then it is the
alternator

> Thank you,
>
> Bob M
Scott S. - 30 May 2006 07:49 GMT
Could be simply the battery is ending its life cycle. If this is the
original battery you are puhing 6 years which is good. Hmm pull the old
battery cable trick when running puts your electronics in a risk of frying.
No  battery means no buffer in you charging circuit, a spike can put undue
stress in the circuit = smoke. A simple volt meter accros the terminals will
show if you alternator is working,  + 14 volts should be the average push to
the battery.

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Ed - 31 May 2006 02:40 GMT
I  WOULD NOT disconnect the battery while the engine is running as this will
most likely damage many electronic components, like the various computers,
which can be very costly to replace.

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bobmct - 30 May 2006 21:46 GMT
> Gentlemen;
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> Bob M

Gentlemen - some additional progress information...

Taking your advise I suspected the battery and/or charge system.  The
battery, being 3 years (it was replaced once) old was replaced this morning
and the alternator seems to be pushing 14+ volts just fine.

None the less, I replaced the battery and once connected the underhood light
came on bright and shiney.  OK I said.  After securing the cables I went
inside and swithed on the ignition.  NADA!  Not even an odometer reading.
Out of frustration I then connected my jumper pack again and turned the
starter switch again.  This time it started.

Any other ideas as to where to look?

Thanks,

Bob
RICHARD - 02 Jun 2006 12:15 GMT
IF YOU PUT IN A NEW CHARGED BATTERY & had to jump it, your battery must be
bad or you hooked it up
backwords.
>> My D with 120K miles has started doing something strange and I don't know
>> what might be causing it.  Before I bring it to the dealer I thought I
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> Bob
Roy - 02 Jun 2006 13:24 GMT
> None the less, I replaced the battery and once connected the underhood
> light
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> Bob

Was the battery you installed fully charged? Has anybody checked the starter
draw?
If the new battery was fully charged and ya need 2 batteries to start this
thing you either have a bad cable or your starter is on it's a.s imo.

Roy
.boB - 03 Jun 2006 00:20 GMT
>>Gentlemen;
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> Bob

    Anything that decreased the amperage to the starter and ignition system will
cause these synmptoms.   Bad battery is the first place to look.  But since your
battery was only 3 years old, and the synptoms conitue, that's not it.
    Check all your cables and connections.  It's common for a battery cable to
corrode beneath the insulation, especially the neg cable.  Try stripping back a few
inches and see what it looks like.
    Also, check all your ground connections.  Take them apart, clean, and re-install.

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Fred Aston - 08 Jun 2006 20:23 GMT
I'm with .boB on this one.  Sure the starter diagnoses explains the double
supply needed to start the vehicle, but it doesn't account for the stalling.
Degraded wiring would explain that simptom as well as the starting issues.
Let me know how you make out.

Fred

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>     Also, check all your ground connections.  Take them apart, clean, and
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bobmct - 16 Jun 2006 02:33 GMT
> I'm with .boB on this one.  Sure the starter diagnoses explains the double
> supply needed to start the vehicle, but it doesn't account for the
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>> 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
>> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

Well, heres the follow up:

I had to use the booster to start this Durango TWICE following the
installation of the new battery.  And the cables looked good and the
connectors were cleaned and I used anti-corrosion spray, etc.  Since then
it has been running just FINE.  Just like new.  I still don't understand
why the initial problem after the battery swap though.

Now, if I could only do something about the god-awful gas mileage....

Bob
Edward L. Dowdy - 16 Jun 2006 19:35 GMT
Trade it for a Prius! I couldn't help myself! :)

> Now, if I could only do something about the god-awful gas mileage....
>
> Bob
bobmct - 18 Jun 2006 22:54 GMT
> Trade it for a Prius! I couldn't help myself! :)
>
>> Now, if I could only do something about the god-awful gas mileage....
>>
>> Bob

Excellent suggestion.  Now, care to lend me $$$$$.

Bob
 
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