Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
exhaust manifold glows bright red, like it's about to melt. The
passenger side is fine. Any suggestions on how to fix it? It was built
by a por race car engine builder a few years ago. The engine's going in
a 64 Studebaker station wagon, by the way. We also have a 70 Super Bee
we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
Thanks, Matthew
SnoMan - 29 Jun 2006 01:37 GMT
>Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
>few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
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>we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
>Thanks, Matthew
Either that side it running lean or you have poorer airflow through
there. It is not unusla to have a manifold clow some when working hard
and there is no worry of melting that cast in manifold as it will take
a LOT more heat than that to do it. Also, overly retarded spark
timing can cause it to get extra hot too.
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JS - 29 Jun 2006 03:00 GMT
> Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
> few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
> Thanks, Matthew
I had this happen on a Briggs&Stratton OHV 14.5 HP vertical shaft engine
due to bad exhaust valve adjustment (slightly too far open, oops).
Guess it was pushing a little fuel out during the compression stroke and
some fire during ignition. Apparently exhaust gasses are normally much
cooler by the time the power stroke is completed.
JS
clare at snyder.on.ca - 29 Jun 2006 03:33 GMT
>Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
>few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
>Thanks, Matthew
Sounds like an exhaust valve problem????

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JS - 29 Jun 2006 11:06 GMT
> Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
> few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
> Thanks, Matthew
Something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKYBb9wPDs
Read the comments at the bottom. Amazing ol' motor. I guess the
constant water flow to the oil, and the steam developed, kept the oil
from breaking down faster than it did...
What I wanna know is whats that weird noise at the end... Electric
cooling fan after losing its blades?
Now after watching that, watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq86Ip2DGYQ
I'll take the 305, thanks.
JS
Nosey - 29 Jun 2006 16:22 GMT
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKYBb9wPDs
>
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> What I wanna know is whats that weird noise at the end... Electric
> cooling fan after losing its blades?
That noise sounds to me like a high pressure gas escaping from a small
opening. It already had blown head gaskets so it might be pressurized
coolant/vapor escaping.
> Now after watching that, watch this...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq86Ip2DGYQ
>
> I'll take the 305, thanks.
Never thought I'd say this about a 305, but me too.

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John Kunkel - 29 Jun 2006 20:58 GMT
> Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
> few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
> exhaust manifold glows bright red, like it's about to melt. The
> passenger side is fine. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
Besides a lean condition, severly retarded timing will also cause manifolds
to glow red.
Late ignition of the mixture will cause the combustion process to continue
well after the exhaust valve opens, exposing the manifold(s) to higher than
normal temperature.
MoParMaN - 29 Jun 2006 22:13 GMT
> Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
> few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> we're working on, as well as many other Studebakers.
> Thanks, Matthew
It's prolly a peice of a ford mustand the engine ate some time ago. It will
pass sooner or later. Next time it backfires and smells like sh.t, you'll
know it passed the ford.

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snickerdoodles@nestle.com - 29 Jul 2006 01:38 GMT
I had a similar problem with my 8.0L Ram. Cat was plugged up and lit
the whole exhaustsystem up.
Check for:
blocked exhaust (retaining heat)
hung-up exhaust valve loading raw fuel into the manifold
>> Hi all. We have a 440 big block engine with a 6 Pack cam in it, and a
>> few other hop-up goodies. When running for a while, the driver side
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>pass sooner or later. Next time it backfires and smells like sh.t, you'll
>know it passed the ford.
SnoMan - 29 Jul 2006 21:22 GMT
>I had a similar problem with my 8.0L Ram. Cat was plugged up and lit
>the whole exhaustsystem up.
>Check for:
> blocked exhaust (retaining heat)
> hung-up exhaust valve loading raw fuel into the manifold
Low octane fuel which cause the spark to be retarded a lot at times
which makes fuel afterburn in exhaust system some can cause this too
because engine efficencny is reduced and even more gas and heat is
dumped into exhaust as it trys to make the power needed for load.
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Max Dodge - 29 Jul 2006 21:34 GMT
> Low octane fuel which cause the spark to be retarded a lot at times
> which makes fuel afterburn in exhaust system some can cause this too
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> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com
Anybody got a translator for this? I tried Babelfish, and it doesn't have a
"snoman" language.

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>>I had a similar problem with my 8.0L Ram. Cat was plugged up and lit
>>the whole exhaustsystem up.
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> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com
SnoMan - 30 Jul 2006 01:46 GMT
>Anybody got a translator for this? I tried Babelfish, and it doesn't have a
>"snoman" language.
You know everytime you do this you do two things, One it show how
insecure your really are and two how truely clueless you are on the
dynamics of IC engine operational characteristics and principals as
well as the thremodynamic princip[les in use. If you were half as
smart as you claim to be you would stop posting dribble and read and
learn something but then there is not much chance of that. Everytime
you try to make me look bad, you make yourself look bad so have at it.
You know I acutual studies IC design in college years ago and even
wrote a few papers on it too. THe only writing you have done is
uninformed BS. I can back up everything with science while your is
strictly BS.
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Max Dodge - 30 Jul 2006 06:06 GMT
> You know everytime you do this you do two things, One it show how
> insecure your really are and two how truely clueless you are on the
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> uninformed BS. I can back up everything with science while your is
> strictly BS.
Actually, I only do one thing, and then you write a book about it. If figure
the more you write, the more people will see you and your "facts" for what
they are.
Please post a rebuttal.

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>>Anybody got a translator for this? I tried Babelfish, and it doesn't have
>>a
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> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com
e lowejr - 30 Jul 2006 03:44 GMT
Hi all. This is a kinda dumb question,what are the signs of a bad cat
converter besides mileage and glowing exhaust? Thanks for all your time.
elowejr@webtv.net
Tom Lawrence - 30 Jul 2006 05:08 GMT
> Hi all. This is a kinda dumb question,what are the signs of a bad cat
> converter besides mileage and glowing exhaust? Thanks for all your time.
It rattles like a can full of marbles when you smack it with a rubber
mallet. A more scientific test would be to use a backpressure gauge (either
remove an O2 sensor, or drill another hold and weld in a bung) - anything
over single-digit PSI when the throttle is snapped would indicate a
restriction.