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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / July 2006Unexplained electrical Phenomena
I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT. I shut the truck off everything was fine. I came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric door locks. They would not work. Then I noticed a red light on in the instrument panel. This light turned out to be for a security system. The truck started fine I noticed then that the lights came on. Even though the switch was off. I began to drive and noticed I had no turn signals, I stopped and checked my break lights they also do not work. End results are: No instruments, no turn signals, no break lights, no interior lights, head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the engine starts. Any one have some help. Have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes?  SignatureMax "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT. I shut the truck off everything was > fine. I came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > engine starts. > Any one have some help. >Have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes? I suspect a grounding problem here. Check all common grounds in dash area. When a ground opens up here, all kinds of strange thing can happen as it seeks a ground through alternate paths. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com I have checked all fuses and the instrument panel does not work at all so I can not get an error code > Have you checked for bad fuses and trouble codes? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > engine starts. > > Any one have some help. Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires etc. look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. SignatureMax "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >I have checked all fuses and the instrument panel does not work at all > so I can not get an error code [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> > engine starts. >> > Any one have some help. >Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires etc. >look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. Chasing gremlins, you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere rather than shooting blind here. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >>Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires etc. >>look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >The SnoMan >www.thesnoman.com dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. is there any thread that you don't chime in on? is there anything that you don't think you are an expert on? is this like our kharma coming to roost? i mean are you like the reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here over the years? >>>Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires >>>etc. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the > alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. Answer man, yes. But the correct answer's????????? > is there any thread that you don't chime in on? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here > over the years? Gee, do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton? . >>>>Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires >>>>etc. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Gee, do ya think he has a 9 foot blade on his 1/2 ton? only if its a gasser Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs >>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> > only if its a gasser That might work if he had 5.88:1 gears. SignatureKen >>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That might work if he had 5.88:1 gears. The driveline would be fine... The lame frame and front suspention OTOH, would not. JS >>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > JS I agree. Sarcasm isn't obvious in print. Sorry for the confusion. SignatureKen >>>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I agree. Sarcasm isn't obvious in print. Sorry for the confusion. Hah, I missed the joke. Thats not unusual! JS >>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >JS The Lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more than you so you try to put them down. What ever flips your skirts. BTW, I have been plowing snow for over 20 years and I would NEVER use a 1/2 truck, espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. I only use 3/4 and 1 ton models (I prefer 1 ton SRWs) I buy a truck for a truck and nothing else. When I want a nice ride and gadgets I drive a car and I would NEVER do anything to my work trucks to reduce their effective or reliablity. One more note, a Oil burner is the worst choice for a plow truck because if you put any kind of serious plow on it, the front axle will be overloaded and airbags or Timbren will not change that fact that axle is over loaded and it will shorten its service life and not to mention the potenail for instabilty when transporting that can occur when front end weighs 5K plus and rear weighs about 3 k or less. WIth a gass truck my front axle weights run 4000 to 4300 lbs when bed is loaded and plow is in carry position which is a lot mor manageable and easier to counter ballast too. Because of this I never use 4x4 to transport in the worst weather. You kids just want to stir the pot, you do not want to learn a thing. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >>>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > BTW, I have been plowing snow for over 20 years A few of us have been plowing snow twice as long as you. I know I don't have all the answers and can learn new stuff all the time. You on the other hand are spouting bs, as in this post. > One more note, a Oil burner is the > worst choice for a plow truck because if you put any kind of serious [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > transporting that can occur when front end weighs 5K plus and rear > weighs about 3 k or less. This is pure bullshit! A Cumminns weighs a few hundred pounds more than a gas. The lifespan of any truck is shortened not so much by the xtra 7-800 pounds a couple of feet ahead of the front bumper but more by a driver who dosen't know how to plow snow. A question for ya, have you ever heard of compensatory weight? You seem concerned about transporting a plow. I would have thought after plowing for 20 years you would have learned that you make money pushing snow than running around with the blade in the air. Perhaps you should learn a little route planning, it will increase your bottom line. I read the rest of your post but it is just foolish to respond to it. >>>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >The Lam e part here is you children trying to pick fits to get your >fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more but may not too, snoidiot. i'll go with not. > than you >so you try to put them down. What ever flips your skirts. whatever "flips" your skirts? geez. >BTW, I have been plowing snow for over 20 years i think it has taken its toll on you too, btw. >and I would NEVER use >a 1/2 truck, espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >The SnoMan >www.thesnoman.com >>>>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > fix and get you fixes by attacking others that may know more than you > so you try to put them down. What ever flips your skirts. You're sounding like my three year old grandcritter. Quit whining.. > BTW, I have been plowing snow for over 20 years and I would NEVER use > a 1/2 truck, espaecaily today models as they are really lightly built. One of my all time favorite movies was one of Clint Eastwoods Dirty Harry movies where he's talking to the captain and says "Every man should know his limitations." This sure fits here. I know of several, including mine, half ton trucks that have survived ten plus years of plowing without major repairs. My main problem to fix was the power steering getting hot. I had to put a cooler on the return line and problem fixed. The most common cause of truck breakage is the cowboy behind the wheel. I'm not even gonna start on the gas vs diesel arguement, there is no end to that. Denny >>>> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > That might work if he had 5.88:1 gears. LOL Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. > dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the > alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > reincarnation of all of the arrogant idiots that have stopped in here > over the years? I really wish that I hadn't read that while I was eating lunch. Cucumbers and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... Denny >> dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >> alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I really wish that I hadn't read that while I was eating lunch. Cucumbers > and onions going backwards thru the nasal channels is not good.... Cukes and onions!! Breath ya can weld with. <BFG> Roy > Denny Seeing that I am a electrical troubleshooter by trade grounding is where I did go next. The problem is that in order to get there you must remove all the dash components to get to them. >>dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Denny He does eat Wabbit food! Bob >>>dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>>alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Bob Yup. Keeps the fir sleek and shiny.. Denny >dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. Dude, I was working on cars before you were likelu born and I have seen many many times want bad grounds can cause. When you have sudden multiple unrelated failures it is most likley a grounding isses because current will try to find another path to ground and do all kinda of strange things sometimes. I am trying to help him find a cure while you are just trying to shoot the messanger because you do not understand his message. BTW, I have a electrical and mech engineering background too do you? ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >>dude, you have really become like the shell answer man of the >>alt.autos.dodge.trucks. at least in your own mind. > >Dude, I was working on cars before you were likelu born and I have >seen many many times want bad grounds can cause. i wasn't likelu born, whatever the hell that is. if you mean likely, then i doub't it. when did you hatch? >When you have sudden >multiple unrelated failures it is most likley a grounding isses >because current will try to find another path to ground and do all >kinda of strange things sometimes. thats pretty rude. you need to get that current in line. you know, shape that current up or kick its a.s. > I am trying to help him find a cure >while you are just trying to shoot the messanger because you do not >understand his message. it wasn't the message that i didn't understand you f.cking moron. it was the messinger that i didn't/don't understand. > BTW, I have a electrical and mech engineering >background too do you? enough to know that electricity can hurt a lot. sh.t, i have been shocked by just about every kind of current that you can think of at one time or another. that is about as familiar as i care to get with it. as for my mech experience, i have a very good mechanic and............ that ain't bad. >----------------- >The SnoMan >www.thesnoman.com >>Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires >>etc. >>look for melted wiring insulation and anything that indicates a problem. > > Chasing gremlins, you need to focus on grounds first then elsewhere > rather than shooting blind here. Shooting blind is exactly what you've chosen to do. You have eliminated from the list any observation of the wiring harness. If after finding it looking normal, then TESTING each malfunctioning component, not just for ground but for all circuits proper operation, is the next step. SignatureMax "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>Next check for loose wire connectors, and/or loose grounds, bare wires >>etc. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The SnoMan > www.thesnoman.com >I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT. I shut the truck off everything was > fine. I came back and unlocked the door and went to use the electric [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > interior lights, head lights and tail lights come on as soon as the > engine starts. Did the dealer install provisions for an aftermarket alarm system? The guys who go around the dealerships and install these systems often have minimal skill and knowledge and their sloppy wiring/splicing can cause all sorts of electrical gremlins. Just heard from the dealership It is the computer module that handles the instrument panel they say Sadly, it took out the dash so the code could not be found. SignatureMax "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Just heard from the dealership > It is the computer module that handles the instrument panel they say
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