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Amsoil Oil???

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Bob - 31 Jul 2006 17:47 GMT
I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
switch?  Any performance comments?

Bob
GeekBoy - 31 Jul 2006 18:21 GMT
>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
>claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
>switch?  Any performance comments?
>
> Bob

Here is a comparison I found with Mobil. They completly test both oils
before and during use.
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html

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Joe Brophy - 01 Aug 2006 15:37 GMT
>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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>before and during use.
>http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html

You would be better off to buy the Amsoil dual oil filter
kit that combines a regular filter with a bypass filter on a
billet manifold that can be mounted in an easy to reach area
in the engine compartment.  (I think the filter kit is made
by Hastings)  Amsoil also has a oil analysis program that
will analyze the contaminants in your oil, worth the 15$ or
so if you just bought your rig used.  Analysis can sometimes
identify abnormal engine operation like crank and rod
bearings wearing excessively, etc.  I do NOT subscribe to
the concept of extended oil changes regardless of oil brand
used.  Engines produce corrosive vapors and condensation
from dissimilar metals reacting and contaminants in cheaper
fuels among other things so I change oil every 3-4k miles
even though I do use synthetic also.  It has worked for me
resulting in 250k miles plus on every vehicle maintained
this way, in addition my (now x) wife is just now selling
her 90 dodge caravan with 350k+ miles, it outlasted our 16
year marriage!  good luck, Joe.
beekeep - 02 Aug 2006 01:51 GMT
>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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>her 90 dodge caravan with 350k+ miles, it outlasted our 16
>year marriage!  good luck, Joe.

Maybe if you had bought her a new vehicle..................

beekeep
GeekBoy - 31 Jul 2006 18:45 GMT
>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
>claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
>switch?  Any performance comments?
>
> Bob

There was also a test done by Shell/Motiva on some Volvo trucks testing the
major brand truck oils.

It seems the Shell Rotella T Synthetic did best followed by the Shell Rimula
Premium.

Maybe a biased test?

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In February 2006 Shell VideoCheck ? Inspections were performed on five Volvo
D12-435 tractor trucks in

on-road service and in similar applications. All trucks had approximately
the same number of miles on the

engines. Depending on the unit, the truck engine was charged with one of
several major brands of diesel

engine lubricant. With the exception of unit #4, all trucks were fitted with
an auxillary additized by-pass

filtration system, adding approximately 2 quarts of oil to the total engine
oil system volume.

http://www.puradyn.com/downloads/Motiva_Shell_Summary.pdf

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Bob - 31 Jul 2006 22:45 GMT
>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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> http://www.puradyn.com/downloads/Motiva_Shell_Summary.pdf

I have done a search trying to find some sort of comparison between Amsoil
and Mobil 1.  But I can't find anything that really tells me one is better
than the other.  It seems depending on the site, one is better than the
other, then the next site shows the opposite.  Does Mobil 1 make a diesel
oil?  About the only thing I found is that Amsoil lasts longer between
changes than mobil 1.

Bob
GeekBoy - 01 Aug 2006 03:29 GMT
>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
>>>claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
>>>switch?  Any performance comments?

I guess what they were saying is one is good in one area were the other is
not.
Maybe just combine them?

Yes Mobil for diesels is available:

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx

>>> Bob
>>
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>
> Bob

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Mike Simmons - 31 Jul 2006 22:22 GMT
>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
>claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
>switch?  Any performance comments?
>
> Bob

Bob:

I know I will be excoriated by the Amsoil boys, but IMHO you can't do better
than Delo, Delvac or Rotella.  Change it every 7,500 miles with a quality
filter (Mopar or Fleetguard) and you can't go wrong.

I am always suspicious of a product that is sold exclusively by multi-level
marketing schemes.  If the product is that good, such schemes would be
unnecessary.

Mike
Bob - 31 Jul 2006 22:49 GMT
>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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>
> Mike

Is there a synthetic to use other than Amsoil?  Does Mobil 1 make a diesel
synthetic?
craig@metronet.com - 01 Aug 2006 01:11 GMT
> Is there a synthetic to use other than Amsoil?  Does Mobil 1 make a diesel
> synthetic?

Yes.  It is called Valvoline Premium Blue Synthetic.  It was created by
Valvoline and Cummins as the recommended oil for Cummins engines.

I use VPB 5w-40 and a Fleetguard filter.  I order it from my local
Cummins retailer.

Craig C.
Bob - 31 Jul 2006 22:50 GMT
>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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>
> Mike

Speaking of filters, what about WIX?  Fleetguard or WIX?

Bob
Mike Simmons - 01 Aug 2006 01:11 GMT
>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>>>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
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>
> Bob

Wix is a good filter.  As far as synthetics, Chevron, Shell and Mobil all
make synthetic diesel oils.  I just gotta ask, why do you want to run
synthetic?

Mike
Bob - 01 Aug 2006 01:32 GMT
>>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.
>>>>I have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but
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>
> Mike

Good question.  I have been reading about how synthetics run cooler and I
can go longer between oil changes, but I think I am going to stick with the
Delo or Delro or whatever it is called.  That is what I have used in the
past.
GeekBoy - 01 Aug 2006 03:42 GMT
>>>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.
>>>>>I have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> the Delo or Delro or whatever it is called.  That is what I have used in
> the past.

I think you mean Delvac

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precisiontowing@hotmail.com - 01 Aug 2006 05:55 GMT
If I might add a testimonial. Run a good oil, rotela t 15-40 and change
at 7500 mile intervals and you won't wear out that motor for so long
you won't care. I have two dodge wreckers (a 99 and an 01) and they
both have 400,000 miles on them. They should be the cummins proving
ground. I can assure you that these trucks have been hammered into the
ground by at least 50 drivers that hop into the truck for a call on an
icy Canadian morning and let her wail from a cold start. When I took
over the trucks the first thing I did was an oil change and one of the
drivers said that was the first time he had ever seen it changed since
he had been driving it. I was boasting this claim to another operator
and he said he had 600,000 miles on his 98. These motors still have a
ton of power and burn little oil. How much do you recon you will spend
extra on all that sinthetic and after a couple hundred thousand miles,
how much more will you get on the trade for that extra care? I'm not
sure through normal use and maintainance that one of these babies can
be worn out. When I gots lottsa more money you can bet my next truck is
gonna be a dodge! ,, bri
Mike Simmons - 01 Aug 2006 10:09 GMT
>>>>>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.
>>>>>I have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> the Delo or Delro or whatever it is called.  That is what I have used in
> the past.

Now you are making sense!  If it is the Chevron product, it is Delo 400 BTW.
Diesel Engine Lubricating Oil..  Unless you operate under some severe
condtions, i.e extreme cold (lower pour point) or extreme heat while working
the engine hard (resistance to shear) synthetics have little value other
than to lighten your wallet.  The D/C warranty does not support extended oil
change intervals using synthetic BTW, so do this at your own peril.

Mike
John Kunkel - 01 Aug 2006 20:07 GMT
> Unless you operate under some severe condtions, i.e extreme cold (lower
> pour point) or extreme heat while working the engine hard (resistance to
> shear) synthetics have little value other than to lighten your wallet.

An often heard argument against the use of synthetics.

If race drivers had an absolute guarantee that they wouldn't crash there
would be no need for helmuts, restraint belts, fire suits, etc. but the
reality is you can't tell beforehand when you'll need the protection they
afford. Same with lubes, you never know when circumstances will make your
dino lube fall down on the job.

Lab tests routinely show that synthetics are superior lubricants even when
not in the critical zone, that makes cost the only drawback to their use.
Coasty - 01 Aug 2006 23:49 GMT
My opinion JUNK
Coasty

>I have been looking at purchasing Amsoil oil for my 2003 Dodge Diesel.  I
>have read all the specs and publications.  The oil is expensive, but they
>claim it has extended life.  Does anyone use Amsoil?  Is it worth the
>switch?  Any performance comments?
>
> Bob
 
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