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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2006

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'97 2500 4x4 front end goes -clunk-

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JustinW - 01 Aug 2006 02:07 GMT
My front end is making a clunking sound.  It happens half a second before
I come to a complete stop and happens again with a half second or so of
taking off.  The steering tends to wander a bit as it goes down the
highway.

The Dodge dealer went completely thru the front end and replaced some
components.  The handling was a little better.  I went in and replaced all
4 shocks - the handling was a little better and the cluck has dimished
slightly (maybe 10%).

Any ideas what could be causing this clunk?  This is getting real old
fast....
Max Dodge - 01 Aug 2006 04:14 GMT
Take a look at your track bar and your steering box.

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> My front end is making a clunking sound.  It happens half a second before
> I come to a complete stop and happens again with a half second or so of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Any ideas what could be causing this clunk?  This is getting real old
> fast....
john - 02 Aug 2006 03:24 GMT
Also check your upper and lower control arms. These were loose on my
97 ram, and would only make noise when stopping and starting to move.
You won't feel any movement by tugging on them with the vehicles
weight on them. jack up the front end and try wiggling them.

>My front end is making a clunking sound.  It happens half a second before
>I come to a complete stop and happens again with a half second or so of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Any ideas what could be causing this clunk?  This is getting real old
>fast....
Max Dodge - 02 Aug 2006 03:54 GMT
> Also check your upper and lower control arms. These were loose on my
> 97 ram, and would only make noise when stopping and starting to move.
> You won't feel any movement by tugging on them with the vehicles
> weight on them. jack up the front end and try wiggling them.

A 2500 4x4 won't have control arms.

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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

> Also check your upper and lower control arms. These were loose on my
> 97 ram, and would only make noise when stopping and starting to move.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>Any ideas what could be causing this clunk?  This is getting real old
>>fast....
john - 02 Aug 2006 04:21 GMT
>> Also check your upper and lower control arms. These were loose on my
>> 97 ram, and would only make noise when stopping and starting to move.
>> You won't feel any movement by tugging on them with the vehicles
>> weight on them. jack up the front end and try wiggling them.
>
>A 2500 4x4 won't have control arms.

I don't understand, what is there holding the axle to the frame? Or
are they called something else?
Max Dodge - 02 Aug 2006 06:26 GMT
> I don't understand, what is there holding the axle to the frame? Or
> are they called something else?

Its a link suspension. When you say control arms, you are referring to the
double A arm configuration. In the 4wd trucks, the axle is linked to the
frame with four links and a track bar. Control arms literally control where
the ball joint is located, while the links are fixed except for one bolt
that should be set at the factory and need never be touched unless something
well out of the ordinary happens. The particular reason for differentiating
is because in the link suspension, the bolts are rarely touched, thus its
very rare they are loose. They should be permanently set for the castor of
the axle. In the 2wd, the bolts will be loosened in each alignment
procedure.

Since the OP says they went over it, the most likely spot they didn't find
is the track bar and the steering box. Neither will do anything too goofy
when the truck is on a lift, since the track bar is under tension, and the
steering box has no load. Also, a link bolt probably won't make much noise,
since its always under compression load, but that depends on how the truck
is driven, such as if it leaves the ground. The bushing on the other hand,
might be a source of noise if its worn.

Just my take, having had several "clunks" end up in now the fourth GM built
steering box being installed in my truck.

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Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

>>> Also check your upper and lower control arms. These were loose on my
>>> 97 ram, and would only make noise when stopping and starting to move.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I don't understand, what is there holding the axle to the frame? Or
> are they called something else?
john - 02 Aug 2006 22:38 GMT
>> I don't understand, what is there holding the axle to the frame? Or
>> are they called something else?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Just my take, having had several "clunks" end up in now the fourth GM built
>steering box being installed in my truck.

Thanks Max for clarifying that. The first thing I did today was to
take a  look in the dodge service manual, and sure enough they are
called upper and lower suspension arms.
EDTHEWARD - 02 Aug 2006 11:21 GMT
> My front end is making a clunking sound.  It happens half a second before
> I come to a complete stop and happens again with a half second or so of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Any ideas what could be causing this clunk?  This is getting real old
> fast....

I had a similar problem on my 2000 4x4. it was the intermediate steering
column shaft. the shaft that telescopes in/out would pop/clunk during a
start/stop when the body flexed. you could feel the pop in the steering
wheel. was not hard to replace at all, and fixed the problem. part was
around 200+ dollars, though.
Max Dodge - 02 Aug 2006 12:45 GMT
> I had a similar problem on my 2000 4x4. it was the intermediate steering
> column shaft. the shaft that telescopes in/out would pop/clunk during a
> start/stop when the body flexed. you could feel the pop in the steering
> wheel. was not hard to replace at all, and fixed the problem. part was
> around 200+ dollars, though.

Had the same problem on my 2000, althought it didn't make much of a noise.
It was more of a feeling in the steering wheel. If you replace this item,
don't bother with the OEM stuff, go to Borgeson and get their replacement
unit. Its about $50 more, but is a much better quality unit. The dealer
installed an OEM under warranty, and I found the collar on the column end
was loose and could not be tightened any further. Thus I still had a weird
feeling in the steering. Put the Borgeson unit in, and haven't had any
problems in that area since.

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Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

>> My front end is making a clunking sound.  It happens half a second before
>> I come to a complete stop and happens again with a half second or so of
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> wheel. was not hard to replace at all, and fixed the problem. part was
> around 200+ dollars, though.
EDTHEWARD - 03 Aug 2006 00:40 GMT
yeah, I got a Borgeson too.

>> I had a similar problem on my 2000 4x4. it was the intermediate steering
>> column shaft. the shaft that telescopes in/out would pop/clunk during a
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>> wheel. was not hard to replace at all, and fixed the problem. part was
>> around 200+ dollars, though.
JustinW - 03 Aug 2006 02:19 GMT
> yeah, I got a Borgeson too.

The Borgeson website says:

"All BORGESON truck steering assemblies are easy to install with common
hand tools. In 20-30 minutes your truck will be back on the road with
vastly improved handling characteristics."

How difficult was it to replace this assembly?  Anywhere to get details
info?
Chris Thompson - 03 Aug 2006 04:12 GMT
the steering intermediate shaft is 2 bolts, both pinch bolts, one at each
end. the old shaft collapses on its self and the new slides in its place.

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>
>> yeah, I got a Borgeson too.
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> How difficult was it to replace this assembly?  Anywhere to get details
> info?
Tom Lawrence - 03 Aug 2006 04:39 GMT
> How difficult was it to replace this assembly?  Anywhere to get details
> info?

http://dodgeram.info/tech/mods/borgeson/index.html
 
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