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Nathan W. Collier - 10 Aug 2006 02:28 GMT
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im preparing to purchase a toy hauler and im wondering if i have enough
truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to 4.10s?

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Nathan W. Collier - 10 Aug 2006 02:28 GMT
oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005 cummins
powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.

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> http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8885
>
> im preparing to purchase a toy hauler and im wondering if i have enough
> truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to 4.10s?
Chris Thompson - 10 Aug 2006 03:13 GMT
> oops, I guess I took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005
> Cummins powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.
>
>> I'm preparing to purchase a toy hauler and I'm wondering if I have enough
>> truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to
>> 4.10s?

Nathan,

here are the links I told you about or at least a few of them.

here's the hobbie website, tag along toy haulers I was looking at the 260, a
30 foot tag with plenty of room for toys. gvr 8500 lbs

http://keystone-hobbi.com/

here's another by keystone rv the NRG gvr 10950lbs

http://keystone-nrg.com/

the keystone raptors heaviest model is a 5ver and has a gvwr of 15500

http://keyperformance-raptor.com/

coachmen has a few, the Adrenaline is nice and has several floor plans

http://coachmenrv.com/tow/adrenaline/floorplans.htm

Fleetwood has some too.. in fact they have 3 lines the GearBox, Nitrous
Hyperlite, and RedLine

http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/

of this list personally I like the Keystone products best, my personal
preference, and when I buy I'm looking seriously at the Keystone Montana for
just a camper (5th wheel) and the Keystone Raptor (although extremely heavy
its really nice).  there are other manufacturers but these are the ones with
local dealers in this area and are the ones I've looked at.

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azwiley1 - 10 Aug 2006 03:25 GMT
Nah, we don't know you.  :^)

> oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005
> cummins powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.
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>> truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to
>> 4.10s?
mac davis - 10 Aug 2006 15:42 GMT
>Nah, we don't know you.  :^)

or at least admit to it... *g*

>> oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005
>> cummins powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.
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>>> truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to
>>> 4.10s?

Mac

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Acceleron - 10 Aug 2006 06:08 GMT
> oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005 cummins
> powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.

So, what about it???

See what happens when you top post above your sig and I use a proper
newsreader to reply? The original question and everything gets stripped
away.
Greg Surratt - 10 Aug 2006 11:05 GMT
>oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005 cummins
>powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.

Isn't max trailer rating on the Dodge 16,000 lbs?
SnoMan - 10 Aug 2006 12:59 GMT
>>oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005 cummins
>>powered ram 3500 4x4 dually.
>
>Isn't max trailer rating on the Dodge 16,000 lbs?

17K will not break the bank and 4.10 is a very wise choice here but
you will be flirting with CDL weight limits and when you run at 26K
GCVW and above regularly you really should have more truck to do it
with (more chassis, axle, brakes) to be albe to better handle the
weight when things go less than perfect. This is more job for a GM
4500 or Ford F450 and above becaus they have much heavier chassis to
better handle these loads because it takes more than just a motor to
move a load.
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MoParMaN - 10 Aug 2006 13:07 GMT
>>>oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005
>>>cummins
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A F250 HD can handle more than the 450.  Unless they made a typo on their
web site.

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GeekBoy - 10 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT
>>>oops, i guess i took for granted that everybody here knows me.  2005
>>>cummins
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> 4500 or Ford F450 and above becaus they have much heavier chassis to
> better handle these loads because it takes more than just a motor to

I saw a F550 recently in Sacramento. Looked like a 350 or 450.
Anyone think Dodge will come out with a heavier truck?

> move a load.
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SnoMan - 10 Aug 2006 19:35 GMT
>I saw a F550 recently in Sacramento. Looked like a 350 or 450.
>Anyone think Dodge will come out with a heavier truck?

Same basic body style on Fords. GM's use a completely different
chassis and cab.  Chysler was barred for making trucks over 1 ton as
part of the government bailout deal in early 80's (it kept other
makers happy) I have heard that they are going to try to get around
that but so far nothing with Dodge name at this time.
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DonStaples - 10 Aug 2006 22:35 GMT
Dodge does produce and has for years produced 4500 and 5500 models in
mexico...........

>>I saw a F550 recently in Sacramento. Looked like a 350 or 450.
>>Anyone think Dodge will come out with a heavier truck?
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SnoMan - 10 Aug 2006 23:25 GMT
>Dodge does produce and has for years produced 4500 and 5500 models in
>mexico...........

Not for sale in US though just like other automaker have models in
other countries too that are not for sale here.
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GeekBoy - 11 Aug 2006 04:42 GMT
> Dodge does produce and has for years produced 4500 and 5500 models in
> mexico...........

Maybe I should go and look at some there...thanks for that info.

>>>I saw a F550 recently in Sacramento. Looked like a 350 or 450.
>>>Anyone think Dodge will come out with a heavier truck?
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SnoMan - 11 Aug 2006 14:20 GMT
>Maybe I should go and look at some there...thanks for that info.

Good luck on importing one though as it is not simply a buy it and
bring it here.  
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GeekBoy - 11 Aug 2006 04:43 GMT
>>I saw a F550 recently in Sacramento. Looked like a 350 or 450.
>>Anyone think Dodge will come out with a heavier truck?
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> makers happy) I have heard that they are going to try to get around
> that but so far nothing with Dodge name at this time.

Maybe they can.
It's no longer Chrysler.. Its Daimler-Chrysler
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SnoMan - 11 Aug 2006 14:25 GMT
>Maybe they can.
>It's no longer Chrysler.. Its Daimler-Chrysler

No, Dodge cannot because daimler is bound by it when they bought them.
Daimer can sell there trucks but not Dodges in that weight class in US
and they cannot simply put a Dailmer/Benz decal on a Dodge either. If
it was that easy they would have done it. One of the reasons Dailmer
bought Chysler was to gain better access to market for its own medium
duty trucks, not to try to sell Dodge branded ones. THe US needs to
waive Dodges restrictions for that to happen and Ido not see that
happening anytime soon if ever.
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Chris Thompson - 10 Aug 2006 02:44 GMT
what kind of toy hauler are you getting? there are some really nice 5vers
that should be under 15K loaded with your rhino and some other toys, I would
guess (remember I'm guessing as I don't know exactly what your towing) I've
been looking at campers and toy haulers myself. I can give you some links if
you want to different floor plans I've looked at. both 5vers and tag along
units.

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05 CTD
06 Liberty CRD

Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs.

> http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8885
>
> im preparing to purchase a toy hauler and im wondering if i have enough
> truck to pull it (roughly 17000# fully loaded).  possibly regear to 4.10s?
 
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