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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2006

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Question about the differential

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Dennis - 13 Aug 2006 05:32 GMT
I have a 2004 Dakota SXT four wheel drive with the V-6 engine and automatic
transmission.
Can some one please tell me what kind of  differentials these trucks have?
Did they come with
limited slip or conventional. How does one tell ?? Also what would be the
best lubricant to use
when I change it?

Thanks,
Dennis
Chris Thompson - 13 Aug 2006 16:05 GMT
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>I have a 2004 Dakota SXT four wheel drive with the V-6 engine and automatic
>transmission.
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> Thanks,
> Dennis

there is a tag on the rear end, and also under hood that should tell you
what axle and whether it is ASD (Anti Spin Differential) or not.

you can also take your vin to your local dealer's parts department and ask
for a print out of factory options.

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Tom Lawrence - 13 Aug 2006 22:04 GMT
> limited slip or conventional. How does one tell ??

Jack up one rear wheel, and with the transmission in neutral, try turning
the wheel.  If it turns, you have an open differential.  If it won't turn,
you have a limited slip.
SnoMan - 13 Aug 2006 22:21 GMT
>Jack up one rear wheel, and with the transmission in neutral, try turning
>the wheel.  If it turns, you have an open differential.  If it won't turn,
>you have a limited slip.

THis does not always work so it is not 100%.
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Tom Lawrence - 13 Aug 2006 23:03 GMT
> THis does not always work so it is not 100%.

Yeah - if your limited slip is worn to the point that it functions like an
open diff, then it won't work.  Otherwise, it works just fine.

Ya ever figure out how to fit an 8.25" ring gear into an 8" carrier?
SnoMan - 13 Aug 2006 23:26 GMT
>Yeah - if your limited slip is worn to the point that it functions like an
>open diff, then it won't work.  Otherwise, it works just fine.

Not on a GM GovLoc it may well look open when in fact it works fine.
Like I said it is not 100%. Kinda a better test for a Dodge is to jack
up both rear wheel and with tranny in neutral when you spin one tire,
the other will goes same direction and match it. If it goes in reverse
it is open.
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Tom Lawrence - 13 Aug 2006 23:55 GMT
> Not on a GM GovLoc it may well look open when in fact it works fine.

You're aware this is a Dodge truck newsgroup, right?
SnoMan - 14 Aug 2006 01:24 GMT
>You're aware this is a Dodge truck newsgroup, right?

Yes I was just saying that not all LSD's act the same.  In theory
since Dodge uses the same AAM axle in a some trucks as GM does (GM did
first) that they "could" in theory anyway have a GovLoc in them.
(whether by a total screw up or after market) Not likely but still
possible though very remote indeed.
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Tom Lawrence - 14 Aug 2006 03:46 GMT
> (whether by a total screw up or after market) Not likely but still
> possible though very remote indeed.

Okay, I'll concede that point.  If someone were drunk off his butt at the
assembly plant, and accidentally shipped a rear axle for a Colorado down to
Saltillo, AND another Chrysler worker were similarly drunk off HIS butt, and
installed that axle under a Dakota, then maybe - just MAYBE - some poor Dak
driver would jack up one rear tire, turn it freely, and feel he got ripped
off by his dealer for installing an open diff when he paid for an LSD.

Of course, this would have to happen during a stampede of elephants on the
4th of July, between the hours of 3:45 and 4:15, during a hail storm, with
one baby zebra....  but it COULD happen  :)

By the way - does 8.25" equal 8.0" yet?  Just checking....
Denny - 14 Aug 2006 10:24 GMT
> Of course, this would have to happen during a stampede of elephants on the
> 4th of July, between the hours of 3:45 and 4:15, during a hail storm, with
> one baby zebra....  but it COULD happen  :)

Hey....I saw that happen!!!.. That's the reason I bought that big
Smith...just in case it ever happened again..

<VBG>

Denny
Tom Lawrence - 14 Aug 2006 13:32 GMT
> Hey....I saw that happen!!!.. That's the reason I bought that big Smith...

For a little baby zebra??  Sadist....   :)
Roy - 14 Aug 2006 14:40 GMT
>> Of course, this would have to happen during a stampede of elephants on
>> the 4th of July, between the hours of 3:45 and 4:15, during a hail storm,
>> with one baby zebra....  but it COULD happen  :)
>
> Hey....I saw that happen!!!.. That's the reason I bought that big
> Smith...just in case it ever happened again..

Give the Smith to your daughter, we know she is the better shot.

I'll leave the one liners about elephants alone for now.

<BFG>

Roy
> <VBG>
>
> Denny
Denny - 15 Aug 2006 01:50 GMT
>>> Of course, this would have to happen during a stampede of elephants on
>>> the 4th of July, between the hours of 3:45 and 4:15, during a hail
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>
> Give the Smith to your daughter, we know she is the better shot.

She may be with some but not that one. Tis a bit much for her arm.

> I'll leave the one liners about elephants alone for now.

Just cause you can't think of any....

How was the trip???

Denny
Roy - 15 Aug 2006 06:21 GMT
>>>> Of course, this would have to happen during a stampede of elephants on
>>>> the 4th of July, between the hours of 3:45 and 4:15, during a hail
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Just cause you can't think of any....

You know better!

> How was the trip???

Fantastic! Everything went as smooth as silk.

Roy
> Denny
Dennis - 17 Aug 2006 01:13 GMT
Thanks guys for the information. I jacked both rear wheels off the ground
and they turned in opposite directions.
So it must be open differential. ( I think)

Thanks again,
Dennis B.
TBone - 17 Aug 2006 01:22 GMT
That is correct, it is an open rear.

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> Thanks guys for the information. I jacked both rear wheels off the ground
> and they turned in opposite directions.
> So it must be open differential. ( I think)
>
> Thanks again,
> Dennis B.
MoPar Man - 19 Aug 2006 19:06 GMT

> Thanks guys for the information. I jacked both rear wheels off
> the ground and they turned in opposite directions. So it must
> be open differential. ( I think)

I've got a 2001 RAM (RWD) that was ordered with limited-slip.

When I turn a corner from a standing stop, the rear tires frequently
squeal a little, and feel like they want to hop, so I'm thinking that
I really do have limited slip, although when driving off road or on
snow/slush during the winter I find I don't have the traction I think
I should have when driving on, say, wet/soggy terrain.
 
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