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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2006

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2000 Ram Torque Converter Lock-up:  Bad science, good results

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jackvt80 - 16 Aug 2006 01:34 GMT
Back in April I posted about a torque converter lock-up problem that I
was experiencing on my 2000 Cummins 2500.   Since that time, every time
I drove the truck, at about 45 MPH the torque converter would jump in
and out of lock-up.  For months I dealt with it by stomping on the
accelerator or eventually it got so bad I had to shift out of
overdrive, especially while towing.  I tested what I could on the APPS
and the brake pedal without solid conclusions.  Anyway, it eventually
got so bad I had to do something.  As a last drastic measure, I tried
these two fixes, and if they hadn't worked I was off to buy the $480
APPS the next day.  The fixes were to "reset" the APPS and to reroute
the alternator ground wire.  Well to my surprise, one of the fixes
worked (don't have a clue which one) and the problem hasn't presented
itself again in 2 weeks/500 miles.  The only suspicious thing I
observed was the ground wire was laying across and in contact with the
alternator, so I relocated it and shielded it.  If that was indeed the
problem, kudos to Tony Garcin at Dunrite Converters for sharing!  It
could have been a long time before that was discovered.  While I don't
know which fixed it, if the problem reoccurs at least I know it's
electrical which gets me somewhere (and I suspect if it's the APPS it
will resurface).

Anyway, thanks to all who responded.  I offer this in the hope that it
helps someone else along the way.

While I was on a roll, I finally installed the fuel pressure gauge that
Roy and Tom had advised years ago.  It was an easy fix with the parts
from Geno's.

Jack

How to reset the APPS:
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/faq/faq.php?display=faq&nr=128&catnr=7&prog=1
&lang=en


How to shield the alternator ground wire:
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/news/index.php     (about 2/3's down
the page)

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miles - 16 Aug 2006 01:55 GMT
> Back in April I posted about a torque converter lock-up problem that I
> was experiencing on my 2000 Cummins 2500.   Since that time, every time
> I drove the truck, at about 45 MPH the torque converter would jump in
> and out of lock-up.

I had that problem with a 2001 Ram.  I rarely could drive it on the
freeway, even flat ground, not towing and the TC would constantly
lock/unlock.  The dealer replaced the TPS which did not help.  They had
no idea what to do and DCX was of no help in the matter.  I finally
talked to a Dodge transmission specialist.  He said he solved that
problem long ago.  I do not know exactly what he did but it involved
alternator noise causing the TC to lock/unlock.  He rerouted wires and
added a filter.  Problem was solved.  I have no idea why DCX could never
solve the problem.
dirtclod - 17 Aug 2006 00:39 GMT
I also have a 2000 CTD 4x4 that experieneced the same problems.  I also
found the solution on this group.  The local Dodge dealer said my TC
was bad.  The so-called best transmission mechic in town replaced the
APPS.   So after I had spent about  $1000.00  my problem was still
there.  I didn't move the ground wire,  I just shielded it and I
purchased a noise filter from BD Power and installed it.  Real easy,
one end splices into the APPS power wire at the PCM and the other end
goes to ground.  I did both about the same time so I do not know which
one fixed it but the important thing is that it is fixed.  Two months
now!!!

Thank You to everyone that gave me advice.
 
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