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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2006

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I don't friggin believe it!!!

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Roy - 26 Aug 2006 20:30 GMT
After reading about Chris's Liberty I figured I'd take one for a ride. Wife
and I go to the local Jeep dealer and guess what? Ya can't buy or register a
diesel Liberty in Southern New England. So that idea is done.

Roy
Max Dodge - 26 Aug 2006 20:58 GMT
WTF??

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> After reading about Chris's Liberty I figured I'd take one for a ride.
> Wife and I go to the local Jeep dealer and guess what? Ya can't buy or
> register a diesel Liberty in Southern New England. So that idea is done.
>
> Roy
Mike W - 26 Aug 2006 21:53 GMT
Can you buy one out of state and still register it?  I live in Northern NE
but regardless I've seen quite a few diesel's on the road.  Volkswagen
TDI's, Mercedes, etc. with in-state tags.

> WTF??
>
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>> Roy
miles - 26 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT
> Can you buy one out of state and still register it?  I live in Northern NE
> but regardless I've seen quite a few diesel's on the road.  Volkswagen
> TDI's, Mercedes, etc. with in-state tags.

I remember in the 70's when taking a car from Arizona to California and
trying to register it there.  California required the vehicle to be
brought up to their smog standards in order to register it.  That
involved installing a smog pump etc.  I assume similar issues are
present in New England.
Roy - 26 Aug 2006 22:22 GMT
>> Can you buy one out of state and still register it?  I live in Northern
>> NE but regardless I've seen quite a few diesel's on the road.  Volkswagen
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> installing a smog pump etc.  I assume similar issues are present in New
> England.

So it would seem. Maybe Fl. is different.

Roy
Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 03:56 GMT
they are no problem here in the southeast.

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>>> Can you buy one out of state and still register it?  I live in Northern
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>
> Roy
Roy - 26 Aug 2006 22:20 GMT
> Can you buy one out of state and still register it?

Nope they are not MAS compliant with regard to emmissions

> I live in Northern NE but regardless I've seen quite a few diesel's on the
> road.  Volkswagen TDI's, Mercedes, etc. with in-state tags.

Same here, my truck is diesel but the Liberty don't cut it.

Roy

>> WTF??
>>
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>>> Roy
Roy - 26 Aug 2006 22:21 GMT
> WTF??

I think MA and Cal have the same emmission laws.

Roy
>> After reading about Chris's Liberty I figured I'd take one for a ride.
>> Wife and I go to the local Jeep dealer and guess what? Ya can't buy or
>> register a diesel Liberty in Southern New England. So that idea is done.
>>
>> Roy
SnoMan - 27 Aug 2006 00:40 GMT
>I think MA and Cal have the same emmission laws.

One of the main reasons they quite putting the current diesel in
Liberty was inabilty of it to meet future emission requirements. Word
is that there will be a replacement one for 08 models.
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Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 03:58 GMT
a replacement diesel in the Liberty??? or a replacement diesel in the jeep
line????? what do you mean by replacement?

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>>I think MA and Cal have the same emmission laws.
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Tom Lawrence - 27 Aug 2006 05:52 GMT
>a replacement diesel in the Liberty??? or a replacement diesel in the jeep
>line?????

You gotta remember to consider the source here...   :)

No, the current diesel will remain in the Liberty - it'll just receive some
tweaks that they weren't ready to roll out to be '07-emissions-compliant.
They'll have it ready for the '08 model year.
Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 06:21 GMT
that's what I was trying to get him to admit to. one way or the other. I
knew the 07 models would not see the CRD. I had not heard that it would
return in 08. I also knew that the grand was getting a Mercedes engine in 07

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Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs.

> >a replacement diesel in the Liberty??? or a replacement diesel in the
> >jeep line?????
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> some tweaks that they weren't ready to roll out to be
> '07-emissions-compliant. They'll have it ready for the '08 model year.
SnoMan - 27 Aug 2006 11:43 GMT
>that's what I was trying to get him to admit to. one way or the other. I
>knew the 07 models would not see the CRD. I had not heard that it would
>return in 08. I also knew that the grand was getting a Mercedes engine in 07

What admitt I am right and your are wrong?  sure...
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Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 18:47 GMT
>>that's what I was trying to get him to admit to. one way or the other. I
>>knew the 07 models would not see the CRD. I had not heard that it would
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> TheSnoMan.com

how about you answer the question? are you scared to answer questions?
I wanted you to clarify what you meant by it would be replaced. I've already
said that the liberty would not see the CRD option for 07 so how was I
wrong? now clarify what your statement meant.

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Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 06:34 GMT
> >a replacement diesel in the Liberty??? or a replacement diesel in the
> >jeep line?????
>
> You gotta remember to consider the source here...   :)

but werent we told NOT to consider the source?
Tom Lawrence - 27 Aug 2006 07:22 GMT
> but werent we told NOT to consider the source?

We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
ignore it  :)
SnoMan - 27 Aug 2006 11:44 GMT
>We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
>ignore it  :)

THe one to ignore is you because you realy do not know your facts on
this one. You better read up on it before you throw stones.
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Roy - 27 Aug 2006 15:51 GMT
>>We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
>>ignore it  :)
>
> THe one to ignore is you because you realy do not know your facts on
> this one. You better read up on it before you throw stones.

E friggin' nuff!  a.shole!! the false and misleading BS that you have been
posting on this NG is enough to make people puke. The person to be ignored
is YOU!!
Bob M - 27 Aug 2006 17:10 GMT
>>>We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
>>>ignore it  :)
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> posting on this NG is enough to make people puke. The person to be ignored
> is YOU!!

   That was dumb.
Roy - 27 Aug 2006 17:51 GMT
>>>>We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
>>>>ignore it  :)
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>>
>    That was dumb.

No, it was factual
Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 18:51 GMT
>> but werent we told NOT to consider the source?
>
> We were - but considering the source on that piece of advice, I chose to
> ignore it  :)

*grin* ok I was just asking.

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SnoMan - 27 Aug 2006 11:42 GMT
>You gotta remember to consider the source here...   :)
>
>No, the current diesel will remain in the Liberty - it'll just receive some
>tweaks that they weren't ready to roll out to be '07-emissions-compliant.
>They'll have it ready for the '08 model year.

You need to reconsider the source here. The current Liberty diesel
cannot meet 08 emissions even with mods period!!! They have a
different "replacement" engine slated for 08 for it. There will be no
tweaks to current one, it will be a different motor. It will be
related to the motor that is being used in 07 GC which IS NOT related
to current liberty diesel other than parent company.
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Tom Lawrence - 27 Aug 2006 11:56 GMT
> tweaks to current one, it will be a different motor. It will be
> related to the motor that is being used in 07 GC which IS NOT related
> to current liberty diesel other than parent company.

You're right - I was wrong.  I had read an interview with a DC exec some
months ago, who said they'd have the diesel option back in '08...  made it
sound like it was an engine modification.  Now I see that the '08 is a
slated re-design for the platform, and other diesel engines are being
considered.

See?  I don't slink away from a discussion when I'm in the wrong.
grg2006 - 27 Aug 2006 13:01 GMT
> After reading about Chris's Liberty I figured I'd take one for a ride.
> Wife and I go to the local Jeep dealer and guess what? Ya can't buy or
> register a diesel Liberty in Southern New England. So that idea is
> done.
>
> Roy

who cares!!!???  It's a jeep.
Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 18:48 GMT
but a jeep with a real engine.

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>
>> After reading about Chris's Liberty I figured I'd take one for a ride.
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>
> who cares!!!???  It's a jeep.
miles - 27 Aug 2006 19:23 GMT
> but a jeep with a real engine.

Buy a real Jeep.  Not a Chrysler product with a name badge!  Jeep died
when Chrysler bought AMC.
Denny - 27 Aug 2006 19:30 GMT
>> but a jeep with a real engine.
>
> Buy a real Jeep.  Not a Chrysler product with a name badge!  Jeep died
> when Chrysler bought AMC.

Some would say Jeep died when AMC bought it..

Denny
Roy - 27 Aug 2006 20:55 GMT
>>> but a jeep with a real engine.
>>
>> Buy a real Jeep.  Not a Chrysler product with a name badge!  Jeep died
>> when Chrysler bought AMC.
>
> Some would say Jeep died when AMC bought it..

I'd be on of them Rabbit.

Roy
> Denny
Denny - 27 Aug 2006 21:06 GMT
>>>> but a jeep with a real engine.
>>>
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>
> I'd be on of them Rabbit.

That's just cause you're old. <G> I think every old fart remembers how
cars/trucks/farm equipment/whatever used to be and how easy it was to work
on them. My favorite old tractor is an "A" John Deere but if I have to work
500 acres I'm sure not going to use one of them by choice anyhow. The new
stuff is so much better I can't begin to start. I think the old "A" is my
favorite cause that was dad's "big" tractor when I was a kid.

Denny
Chris Thompson - 27 Aug 2006 22:44 GMT
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>>>>> but a jeep with a real engine.
>>>>
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>
> Denny

I remember the "A" my grandfather had one belt drive and all. in fact that's
how my uncle Lee broke his back, they were using the overshot stacker when
it broke and fell on Lee.

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