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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006Cummons Out The Door
I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a Mercedes diesel sometime around 2010 after the Cummins contract expires. Coast >I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be >dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a >Mercedes diesel sometime around 2010 after the Cummins contract expires. > > Coast If you can't have a Cummins, I can't think of a better alternative.  SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- > If you can't have a Cummins, I can't think of a better alternative. Mercedes makes a great diesel but Cummins has been a huge draw for Dodge sales. I would agree, and with the reliability record and power of the Cummins I think leaving them would be a mistake. Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. >> >> If you can't have a Cummins, I can't think of a better alternative. > > Mercedes makes a great diesel but Cummins has been a huge draw for Dodge > sales. > If you can't have a Cummins, I can't think of a better alternative. I've had one diesel Mercedes and have done most maintenance for another. I will never buy another Mercedes product. Maybe they were different in the "old" days, but the way their products are built simply leaves me scratching my head. Is there a "283 chevy" equilvalent make and model in diesels? Something made to repaired and maintained by the owner?? > Is there a "283 chevy" equilvalent make and model in diesels? Something > made to repaired and maintained by the owner?? That would be a Cummins B5.9 :) > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be > dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a Mercedes > diesel sometime around 2010 after the Cummins contract expires. > > Coast I herd a few years ago that they were dropping Cummins. They said Mercedes diesel would replace it, but i also herd that CAT was developing a diesel for the dodge. If CAT diesel would replace them I think Dodge would sell pretty good. Scott > > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be > > dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a Mercedes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > developing a diesel for the dodge. If CAT diesel would replace them I > think Dodge would sell pretty good. It really doesn't make any sense to me why DC would drop Cummins for CAT instead of just using their own engines unless CAT is offering one hell of a deal that even Mercedes can't beat. Cummins has already proven itself in the RAM and while I can see a significant cost savings dropping a Mercedes diesel in it after the contract expires, I really don't see how CAT could beat Cummins price by enough to risk the loss in sales by switching away from Cummins. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will >> > be [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > beat Cummins price by enough to risk the loss in sales by switching away > from Cummins. I'm not so sure that there would be much of a risk. CAT make on hell of an engine. It equals Cummins in my experience. Roy > >> > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will > >> > be [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I'm not so sure that there would be much of a risk. CAT make on hell of an > engine. It equals Cummins in my experience. The risk is not in the quality of the engine but in the buyers perception. Unless you are into big rigs or industrial equipment, you are not going to know much about CAT. I am also unaware of CAT currently building anything that could be dropped into a small pickup and if I am unaware of it, there is a good bet that many others are also unaware as well. This leads to people assuming that CAT will need to build a new motor and deal with all of the fun that happens with that, IOW, loss of sales. Cummins has been in Dodge trucks for a while now and have built up a reputation as building a rock solid small truck motor that will easily outlast the rest of the truck and in many cases is the reason why people bought the Dodge at all. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving ---Snip--- > Cummins has been in > Dodge trucks for a while now and have built up a reputation as building a > rock solid small truck motor that will easily outlast the rest of the truck > and in many cases is the reason why people bought the Dodge at all. The 360 in my 92 is going to outlast the rest of the truck. Is that a reflection of a good engine or a crappy truck? The 318 in my 90 D150 is going to outlast the rest of the truck too:) Hope my 04 is built better than the older trucks. Al 92 W250 360, 5 speed, 4X4 04 2500, 600 CTD, six speed, 4X4 Seriously, Has nobody here heard of the 6.7L Cummins released for the '07 cab & chassis dodges? http://www.turbodieselregister.com/06ntea/ http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/pdf/4103902.pdf I can almost see a 2007.5 model. I drive a 1998.5 funny. >> > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will >> > be [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > beat Cummins price by enough to risk the loss in sales by switching away > from Cummins. I heard that Cummins was bought out by either Ford or GM- I cant remember which. FORD has never owned a part or whole of Cummings check the Cummings website you will find that in one of the FAQ sections. Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. > >>> > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I heard that Cummins was bought out by either Ford or GM- I cant remember > which. > FORD has never owned a part or whole of Cummings check the Cummings > website you will find that in one of the FAQ sections. Okay Chris, repeat after me. My truck is CUMMINS powered!<VBG> Roy >> FORD has never owned a part or whole of Cummings check the Cummings >> website you will find that in one of the FAQ sections. > > Okay Chris, repeat after me. My truck is CUMMINS powered!<VBG> > > Roy LOL ok roy looks like your new job is to correct my typos that spell check misses. Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. >>> FORD has never owned a part or whole of Cummings check the Cummings >>> website you will find that in one of the FAQ sections. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > LOL ok roy looks like your new job is to correct my typos that spell check > misses. Thats a good job for that crotchity old fart!! Maybe he can get his new "best friend" to give him a hand... Denny >> LOL ok roy looks like your new job is to correct my typos that spell >> check misses. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Denny LOL Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. >>> > I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will >>> > be [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I heard that Cummins was bought out by either Ford or GM- I cant remember > which. Pure BS. Roy >I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be >dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a >Mercedes diesel sometime around 2010 after the Cummins contract expires. i heard the same thing. when daimler chrysler drops the cummins in arrogance, my money says we'll see chrysler sales plummet faster than in the 80s. i didnt buy a dodge.....i bought a cummins. if ford ends up with the cummins, ill end up with that king ranch f350 ive been wanting. SignatureNathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com http://InlineDiesel.com http://BighornRefrigeration.com http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Carry.com http://GlockCarry.com I don't know about you, but I would like to see the Superduty with a Cummins/Allison setup >>I was watching a motor show and they said more than likely Dodge will be >>dropping the Cummins engine from the dodge truck line in favor of a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 80s. i didnt buy a dodge.....i bought a cummins. if ford ends up > with the cummins, ill end up with that king ranch f350 ive been wanting. >I don't know about you, but I would like to see the Superduty with a >Cummins/Allison setup im good with just the cummins. while good, the allison is no better than the other heavy duty trannys available today. SignatureNathan W. Collier http://UtilityOffRoad.com http://7SlotGrille.com http://InlineDiesel.com http://BighornRefrigeration.com http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Carry.com http://GlockCarry.com >>I don't know about you, but I would like to see the Superduty with a >>Cummins/Allison setup > >im good with just the cummins. while good, the allison is no better than >the other heavy duty trannys available today. actually, from every survey that i have seen, the allison that sits behind the duramax has the highest incident of repair of the main three light duty diesels. the last survey had ford first, dodge right behind it and the allison (a generic allison i believe) was quite a ways back in third place. so far my 48re has been pretty solid. i got two frineds with fords, one a 6.0 and one a 7.3. both are on their second tranny. > actually, from every survey that i have seen, the allison that sits > behind the duramax has the highest incident of repair i dont doubt it a bit. > three light duty diesels. ? isnt the cummins classified as a medium duty diesel? > so far my 48re has been pretty solid. same here. both my 48res are doing just fine, and one pulls heavy _every_ day. > i > got two frineds with fords, one a 6.0 and one a 7.3. both are on > their second tranny. i just bought another F350 a couple weeks ago (http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9298) and although i wish it had a cummins, the 7.3 stroke is a solid engine. no tranny issues either (from any of my 7.3s), perhaps im just lucky. my brother on the other hand, had his allison rebuilt under warranty. i dunno how many miles are on the truck, but its an '05. certainly to early for a tranny rebuild. 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