> Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's
> ignition timing when running 87 octane fuel.
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> If you could clear up any of these mysteries, I'm sure we'd all sleep a
> little better.
You have any idea what your chances of that happening are??<VBG>
But..., I'd like to see the a.s hole revisit the V 10 and substantiate his
statements there.
I'll sleep just fine thank you.
Roy
> Thanks
SnoMan - 31 Aug 2006 13:13 GMT
>You have any idea what your chances of that happening are??<VBG>
>
>But..., I'd like to see the a.s hole revisit the V 10 and substantiate his
>statements there.
>
>I'll sleep just fine thank you.
No much chance at all when talking to "children" that cannot
understand. My kids can learn but you cannot nor be civil about
disagreements. It is how you handle those that shows your maturity and
name calling shows no maturity at all. It is what what "children" do
sometimes when they do not get their way.
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Roy - 31 Aug 2006 14:08 GMT
>>You have any idea what your chances of that happening are??<VBG>
>>
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> No much chance at all when talking to "children" that cannot
> understand.
More BS! Answer the questions!
>My kids can learn but you cannot nor be civil about
> disagreements.
Not a disagreement a.s hole. It is about you posting incorrect advie and
false answers.
Now answer the questions!
>It is how you handle those that shows your maturity and
> name calling shows no maturity at all. It is what what "children" do
> sometimes when they do not get their way.
What children do when caught in BS is avoid the issue. You, a.s hole have
continued to do so. Your new name fit's you perfectly. Get use to it 'cause
it is all yours. Oddly enough, folks from the other ng's that you have
posted to have names for you as well. Do ya think there might be a
connection?
Answer the questions!
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mac davis - 31 Aug 2006 15:20 GMT
http://www.davisbaja.com/images/arguing.jpg
>>>You have any idea what your chances of that happening are??<VBG>
>>>
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Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
Chris Thompson - 31 Aug 2006 15:21 GMT
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> http://www.davisbaja.com/images/arguing.jpg
LOL, that was wrong! funny, but wrong!

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theguy@whatever.net - 31 Aug 2006 15:44 GMT
>>You have any idea what your chances of that happening are??<VBG>
>>
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that makes no sense at all. it isn't even a response to what was
written. are you on meds? if so, you need to see the dr. and double
up the doses or something.
i am glad your kids can learn. that at least shows that they have the
capacity to move beyond the ignorance of their father. now i just
hope that they too don't turn out to be a.s clowns of the internet
like their dad.
>Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's ignition
>timing when running 87 octane fuel.
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>
>Thanks
Tom I am still waiting for you to grow up. OBTW, Dodge does use a even
lighter duty 8 inch axle (also made by AAM not Dodge) that was
designed for usage in a rear axle on a light weight SUV and Dodge
adapted it to use in the front and since Dodge does not believe on
saving fuel by disconnected front diff in 2wd (none of there current
models do) it was easy to adapt a cheaper rear drive axle for a frront
drive assembly rather than spend a bit more coin and do it correctly.
So I was right andand wrong here in that Dodge does not make the axle
and it is not realy a front drive axle to begin with either and it is
a lighter built 8 and not the 8.25 which was designed as a front drive
axle but costs more. On the V10, you will never figure that one out no
matter how it is explained because your mind is stuck in the mud on 87
being the best fuel to use period. You should take a few classes on
thermodynamic principles and operational theories of IC engine and
after you do and if you pass them then maybe we can have that talk
because you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk on this subject and
are well out of your league.
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Chris Thompson - 31 Aug 2006 13:26 GMT
>>Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's
>>ignition
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hmmm that doesn't answer the question. here lets revisit it again. he asked
how does it retard timing? its a valid question, you realize that in order
for the pcm to retard timing it has to see a "spark knock" or "detonation"
event, to know the knock is even there and there is a need for timing
retard? now that we both agree on that. you also realize that the dodge
truck engines related to the v10 (8.0L) all do not have a knock sensor
right? that list includes the 5.2 (318 cid), 5.9 (360 cid) 8.0L v10 (488
cid)
if you do not agree that the truck's engine has to have a knock sensor to
see the "knock" then please enlighten us all........how does it know?

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beekeep - 31 Aug 2006 18:06 GMT
>if you do not agree that the truck's engine has to have a knock sensor to
>see the "knock" then please enlighten us all........how does it know?
Hey, a thermos keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold. It doesn't have any
sensors. How does it know?
beekeep
theguy@whatever.net - 31 Aug 2006 22:57 GMT
>>if you do not agree that the truck's engine has to have a knock sensor to
>>see the "knock" then please enlighten us all........how does it know?
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>
>beekeep
bad example greg. a thermos simply is insulated. it holds the temp
inside for as long as its insulation allows but does not maintain a
temperature. some get warm or cold very quickly due to poor
insulation and some will hol the temp for many hours, but it is not
the same thing as maintaining the temperature.
mac davis - 01 Sep 2006 01:11 GMT
>>>if you do not agree that the truck's engine has to have a knock sensor to
>>>see the "knock" then please enlighten us all........how does it know?
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>insulation and some will hol the temp for many hours, but it is not
>the same thing as maintaining the temperature.
Dude.. I think BK was making a funny...
Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
theguy@whatever.net - 01 Sep 2006 01:20 GMT
>>>>if you do not agree that the truck's engine has to have a knock sensor to
>>>>see the "knock" then please enlighten us all........how does it know?
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>https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
>https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
yeah, i think you are right. sorry greg, i glossed over that.
Mike Simmons - 01 Sep 2006 02:12 GMT
>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:26:16 -0400, "Chris Thompson"
>><kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net>
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> insulation and some will hol the temp for many hours, but it is not
> the same thing as maintaining the temperature
Humor ain't your forte is it guy?
;^)
Mike
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theguy@whatever.net - 01 Sep 2006 04:54 GMT
>>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:26:16 -0400, "Chris Thompson"
>>><kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net>
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>Mike
>.
:)
i don't know, i like humor. i think this one just went over my head
for some reason.
Ed H. - 02 Sep 2006 04:48 GMT
It's my understanding that...
Octane is a measure of fuel's resistance to detonation (aka pinging or
dieseling) caused by the rise in temperature associated with compressing an
air fuel/mixture (or any substance in a gaseous state). That is, the higher
the octane rating, the higher the compression ratio the air/fuel mixture can
endure before compressional heat causes ignition of said air/fuel mixture.
Higher compression gasoline engines _require_ higher octane gasoline so that
the air/fuel mixture may be compressed without detonation before the spark
plug induces ignition. Lower compression engines gain no benefit from using
gasoline with a higher octane rating.
Furthermore, I know that the some "power programmers" will adjust things
like injector pulse width and ignition timing to increase horse power and
torque, but those changes usually require gasoline with a higher octane than
the stock program to prevent compressional detonation.
Therefore, maybe you can explain to _me_ the situations and reasons why a
V-10 (or any other gasoline engine designated by the manufacturer as
requiring 87 octane gasoline) can benefit from higher octane gasoline.
>>Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's
>>ignition
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Ed H. - 03 Sep 2006 03:11 GMT
>>Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's
>>ignition
>>timing when running 87 octane fuel.
>On the V10, you will never figure that one out no
> matter how it is explained because your mind is stuck in the mud on 87
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It's my understanding that...
Octane is a measure of fuel's resistance to detonation (aka pinging or
dieseling) caused by the rise in temperature associated with compressing an
air fuel/mixture (or any substance in a gaseous state). That is, the higher
the octane rating, the higher the compression ratio the air/fuel mixture can
endure before compressional heat causes ignition of said air/fuel mixture.
Higher compression gasoline engines _require_ higher octane gasoline so that
the air/fuel mixture may be compressed without detonation before the spark
plug induces ignition. Lower compression engines gain no benefit from using
gasoline with a higher octane rating.
Furthermore, I know that the some "power programmers" will adjust things
like injector pulse width and ignition timing to increase horse power and
torque, but those changes usually require gasoline with a higher octane than
the stock program to prevent compressional detonation.
Therefore, please explain to me the situations and reasons why a
V-10 (or any other gasoline engine designated by the manufacturer as
requiring 87 octane gasoline) can benefit from higher octane gasoline.
I've read more than a few post by this guy and caught a number of
mistakes / lies.
Either he is the biggest pompous a.shole I've ever seen or he's just
another troll that is getting off on you guys combating his stupid
post.
I've never seen anyone embellish postings with so much worthless crap
like snoboy.
Lol I just noticed this guy plows snow, you wont get rid of him until
winter comes!
Another jobless fruitcake with nothing to do.
Just look at his post flooding the usenet.
And he has his own forum?
I have never seen any one with an over inflated sense of self
importance as this guy.
Good luck to you guys on getting rid of this a.s clown.
Roy - 01 Sep 2006 01:40 GMT
> I've read more than a few post by this guy and caught a number of
> mistakes / lies.
> Either he is the biggest pompous a.shole.
Damn! I had as a plain a.s hole, you upgraded him to pompous a.s hole. Maybe
he'll follow you.<VBG>
>I've ever seen or he's just
> another troll that is getting off on you guys combating his stupid
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> importance as this guy.
> Good luck to you guys on getting rid of this a.s clown.
We will unload the pos soon.
Denny - 01 Sep 2006 01:49 GMT
>> I've read more than a few post by this guy and caught a number of
>> mistakes / lies.
>> Either he is the biggest pompous a.shole.
>
> Damn! I had as a plain a.s hole, you upgraded him to pompous a.s hole.
> Maybe he'll follow you.<VBG>
Don't the Snowidiot live on the east coast?? I think maybe you should drop
in for a visit on your next trip to Fla. Ya know, a little quality "bonding"
time.... <VBG>
Denny
> Still waiting on an explanation of how a Dodge V10 will retard it's ignition
> timing when running 87 octane fuel.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks
Trolls don't post real answers. They just post brain farts for their
own sake.