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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006torque specs on transmission
hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you remove the torque converter, what is the torque on the 7 bolts that hold on the front plate? (it's the front plate that has little bearings and passages that move the fluid around the transmission, and has a seal in the front of it, which encircles a shaft) none of my manuals list torque specs on it, and google searches have proved useless. thanks, James >hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic >transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >James My refferance states 101 ft lbs for flywheel bolt and does not have seperate values for automatics and manuals. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com > >hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic > >transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts. Al >> >hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic >> >transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts. Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the hope is that the OP ignored him. Roy > Al >Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the hope >is that the OP ignored him. We do understand that you are very insecure. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >>Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the hope >>is that the OP ignored him. > >We do understand that you are very insecure. >----------------- >TheSnoMan.com who is "we" a.s clown. a.s clown, what "we" understand is what a total moron you actually are. >>>Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the hope >>>is that the OP ignored him. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >a.s clown, what "we" understand is what a total moron you actually >are. This is easy to figure out who the clown and morons is or are. It is the one(s) with the anonymous return addresses that like to stir the pot while hiding because they shun accountabilty. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >>Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the >>hope >>is that the OP ignored him. > > We do understand that you are very insecure. No a.s hole, the last thing I am insecure. What I am, is tired of you posting information that is nothing but wrong. Like in this post with torque values. You being the dumb a.s hole tell the OP that the correct value 101 foot pounds, when in fact, the value is 15 foot pounds. You with you BS are going to cause sombody who doesn't know what a a.s hole you are a injury or some damage. Roy > We do understand that you are very insecure. Yes, but do you understand that you are very incorrect?  SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>Al, ya gotta understand AH. He just spouts off inaccurate BS. Now the >>hope [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com >He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts He was not clear about this. If he had been clearir I would have provied the link below first time around (the torque specs are at the end of the PDF in the link) http://www.atsdiesel.com/PDF/47RE_Overhaul_Instructions_A1.pdf#search=%2247RE%20 overhaul%22 ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >> He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com that's a great page, thank you kindly, it helps quite alot! have a good one, James >>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts > > He was not clear about this. He was clear enough for everyone else, it seems: > When the transmission is out of the vehicle He's got the trans out of the vehicle... > and you remove the torque converter And he removes the converter.... so he's now looking into the bellhousing.. > what is the torque on the 7 bolts that hold on the front plate? Granted, "front plate" isn't the best way to describe it, but knowing that he just removed the converter, combined with the "7 bolts", it's pretty clear he's talking about the front pump... > (it's the front plate that has little bearings and passages that move > the fluid around the transmission, and has a seal in the front of it, > which encircles a shaft) Does any of this description even remotely apply to the flexplate? "Moved fluid around, has a seal that encircles the input shaft".... can't really be anything BUT the pump, right? >>>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >fluid around, has a seal that encircles the input shaft".... can't really >be anything BUT the pump, right? The original poster liked the link but you are still fixated on slamming, What ever rocks your boat. There is alway hope that one day you may mature and rise above this. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com > The original poster liked the link but you are still fixated on > slamming, What ever rocks your boat. There is alway hope that one day > you may mature and rise above this. We're slamming you because you gave info that would have cost the guy a transmission case and a lot of down time. Then you claimed it wasn't clear. If so, why did you not ask for clarification? We have risen above it, YOU OTOH, still slime around in the bullshit you've spread previously. SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>>>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com >We're slamming you because you gave info that would have cost the guy a >transmission case and a lot of down time. Then you claimed it wasn't clear. >If so, why did you not ask for clarification? > >We have risen above it, YOU OTOH, still slime around in the bullshit you've >spread previously. No you are slamming me because you are basically insecure and it makes you feel better about yourself to act like a child and put others down that you feel threatened by. Knock yourself out Max. Anybody with a open mind can see what you are doing here. Some kids never grow up but there is always hope. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com > No you are slamming me because you are basically insecure and it makes > you feel better about yourself to act like a child and put others down > that you feel threatened by. Knock yourself out Max. Anybody with a > open mind can see what you are doing here. Some kids never grow up but > there is always hope. I am slamming you because you almost cost that guy a pile of cash and downtime, nothing more and nothing less. Shut your piehole on the "insecurity" issues because its your stock response, and as with all else you spew, full of bullshit. SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>We're slamming you because you gave info that would have cost the guy a >>transmission case and a lot of down time. Then you claimed it wasn't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com >I am slamming you because you almost cost that guy a pile of cash and >downtime, nothing more and nothing less. Shut your piehole on the >"insecurity" issues because its your stock response, and as with all else >you spew, full of bullshit. Not you are the one full of it and other people see it too, they may not say but they see it. Uou act like a child at times with "tantrums" of name calling. BTW I did not almost cost him anything because I qualified what torque values were for. Do us all a favor Max and grow up some. You have a severe ego problem ----------------- TheSnoMan.com > Not you are the one full of it and other people see it too, they may > not say but they see it. Uou act like a child at times with > "tantrums" of name calling. I didn't call you any names, I said you almost cost the guy big $$, get it right. > BTW I did not almost cost him anything > because I qualified what torque values were for. The values you claimed you supplied were for the flexplate to torque converter, and you were only 66ftlbs too high. Way to go. > Do us all a favor Max > and grow up some. You have a severe ego problem Do us and those looking for info a favor and shut the f.ck up. SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>I am slamming you because you almost cost that guy a pile of cash and >>downtime, nothing more and nothing less. Shut your piehole on the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com > BTW I did not almost cost him anything because I qualified what > torque values were for. You'd really make a terrible teacher. The OP didn't know the name of part he was asking about, and you come back with "101 ft. lbs. for flywheel bolt". Now, if he didn't know that the pump was a pump, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that he could think you were telling him the "plate" he was asking about was a flywheel? And then proceed to try and torque the bolts to 101 ft. lbs., thereby tearing the aluminum threads right out of the case? Not to mention the fact that 101 ft. lbs. is completely off the mark, too. My service manual calls for 55 ft. lbs. for the flexplate-to-crankshaft bolts, and 35 ft.lbs. for the flexplate-to-converter bolts. What did you do? Add them together, and add a little bit for good measure? > The original poster liked the link but you are still fixated on > slamming, Not slamming... see, this is a DISCUSSION group. We DISCUSS things here. Someone asked a question, you mis-read his question, and provided an incorrect answer. It was pointed out that you mis-read the question. You claimed it was the OP's fault, because he wasn't clear. It was then explained that the OP was indeed clear enough to understand exactly what he was asking about. That's all, Sno... no slamming - just a discussion. Do you know how the vast majority of people in this group would have handled that situation? "Oh, sorry about that - I thought he was asking about something else. My mistake" And that would be the end of it. We're all human here - we all make mistakes. Most of us own up to them, and move on. You, however, are developing a consistent pattern of providing incorrect information, and then blaming everyone BUT you for it. That, my friend, is a textbook definition of immaturity... >>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >----------------- >TheSnoMan.com do you mean that had he been more clear about that, you would have provided the link earlier? i sure hope you are better at snow plowing than you at writing a.s clown. > He was not clear about this. If he had been clearir I would have > provied the link below first time around (the torque specs are at the > end of the PDF in the link) Bullshit. He clearly described the pump body as something the shaft went through and had a seal around it. You got a flywheel like that on your Dodge? SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com dude he talked about seals and the torque converter going into it! have you ever seen a seal on a fly wheel?????? Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. > >>He's talking about the front pump bolts, not the flywheel bolts [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com > >hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic > >transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Way to go SnoJob > My refferance states 101 ft lbs for flywheel bolt and does not have > seperate values for automatics and manuals. Thats great, except he was describing the "pump body to case" bolts. Those are 15ftlbs, the ones you were talking about are 35ftlbs. Both a bit shy of the 101ftlbs you mentioned. SignatureMax Join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >>hey, i have a 96 dodge ram (diesel) pickup with the 47RE automatic >>transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com > transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you remove > the torque converter, what is the torque on the 7 bolts that hold on the > front plate? 15 foot-pounds. >> transmission. When the transmission is out of the vehicle, and you remove >> the torque converter, what is the torque on the 7 bolts that hold on the >> front plate? > > 15 foot-pounds. thank you sir, have a great day, James > thank you sir, have a great day, No problem... have you made a couple of alignment dowels to get the pump lined up correctly? If not, they're pretty simple to make. Get a length of 5/16"-18 all-thread from your local hardware store. Cut two pieces about 4" long. Screw these into opposite holes where the pump bolts thread into. Now you can slip the gasket and pump onto the alignment dowels, and start the other 5 pump bolts. Unscrew the dowels, and put the final two bolts in, then torque them down. This is much easier than trying to line things up by hand, hoping not to shift/tear the gasket in the process. >> thank you sir, have a great day, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > This is much easier than trying to line things up by hand, hoping not to > shift/tear the gasket in the process. that's a good idea for sure, i ended up just getting lucky, and it plopped nicely into place :) so now its all done, tranny is snug against the block, so now i need to psych myself up for the next part... bolting the flywheel/flex plate to the torque converter. much fun is anticipated :P > >> thank you sir, have a great day, > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > the torque converter. > much fun is anticipated :P I wish I had thought to mention it previously... startup procedure is important as well. My Torqueflite gurus recommend prefilling the torque converter before installing it. Then, after the transmission is installed and before starting the engine, fill it with 4 or 5 quarts of ATF. Start the engine w/ the transmission in neutral, and fill with the remaining ATF as necessary. Tom and others may have more specific info about this. Bryan |
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