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My truck smells - coolant problem!

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jmc - 03 Sep 2006 07:31 GMT
Later I'll post about my first real (sort of) four wheel drive
experience in the Australian Outback (great fun!), but for now:

(2001 Dodge Dakota SLT, 4x4)

I'd been noticing on this trip that my truck has a strong smell of
burning rubber, just as I get out of the truck after stopping.  It was
dissipating fairly quickly though.  As I'd never gone 4x4ing before, I
wasn't worried enough to look into it (wish I had), since the truck was
running fine.  Figured it was just something normal for a hardworking truck.

When I got home, I popped the hood, and to my dismay found that coolant
had been spraying all over my engine!  Looks to my untrained eye like
the idiot at the dealership who did my coolant change, didn't tighten
the pressure cap all the way - it took a quarter turn more to tighten it
than to take it off. I'm betting this has been happening since the
coolant was changed, close to two months ago.  Haven't been doing much
driving, this was the longest journey since then, 100 miles in two days.
 Today was warmer too, in the low eighties (30c).  Truck was in 4Hi,
but never 4Lo, both days, and the AC was on (if that matters).

Reservoir is all but dry - doesn't register on the dipstick at all, but
I can see something in there.  However, the line where I took the
pressure cap off is full.  My truck never overheated or misbehaved
(don't they start pinging when overheating?), but I think I'm lucky I
finally noticed this.

There's coolant sprayed *everywhere*.  The entire right side of the
engine block is liberally sprinkled with the stuff.  There's some
settled on the frame, and a little bit dripped off  It's all underneath
the hood, on the battery, all the way back to the firewall.

So, there's a couple of questions here:  The dealership is a couple of
miles away.  Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there,
or will it be OK?  Oh, yea, they're gonna be hearing from me.  I'll be
there on the doorstep, with the truck, when they open tomorrow.  If *I*
can tell when the cap's on all the way, there's no excuse for a mechanic
not to get that right!

Was the hot coolant landing on hot engine parts what caused the burning
rubber smell?  If not, what should I be looking at?

Will the coolant damage said parts?

My lesson learned:  ALWAYS ALWAYS check the mechanic's work, if you can,
even on the stupid stuff like oil and coolant changes.  Won't make that
mistake again!

Thanks for any help.

jmc
Tom Lawrence - 03 Sep 2006 08:44 GMT
> So, there's a couple of questions here:  The dealership is a couple of
> miles away.  Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there, or
> will it be OK?

If the radiator itself is full, you're fine to drive it there.

> Was the hot coolant landing on hot engine parts what caused the burning
> rubber smell?  If not, what should I be looking at?

Most likely - although coolant itself usually has a "sweet" smell to it.

> Will the coolant damage said parts?

Nah - just spray it down with the hose.  Stay away from and/or plug the air
intake (don't want to be spraying water in there).  IIRC, you've got a big
tube that goes into the right-side fender, so you shouldn't have a problem
here.
jmc - 03 Sep 2006 14:29 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Tom Lawrence exclaimed (03-Sep-06 5:14 PM):
>> So, there's a couple of questions here:  The dealership is a couple of
>> miles away.  Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there, or
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> tube that goes into the right-side fender, so you shouldn't have a problem
> here.

I read somewhere that a burning rubber smell could be the clutch.  I
didn't really have to shift much on this trip... could it be?  What
other symptoms would there be?

Dunno if it could be related to the rubbery smell, but somewhere where
my steering column went into the dash, there was a rattle.  Would this
be normal, considering the terrain (was either major washboard, or rocky?)

jmc
jmc - 04 Sep 2006 06:35 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (03-Sep-06 4:01 PM):

> When I got home, I popped the hood, and to my dismay found that coolant
> had been spraying all over my engine!  

> jmc

Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is
failing.  It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short
jaunts, but apparently going 4x4 in warmer temps (not hot here yet, only
in the low 80's Fahrenheit (30c)).

They tested it, fails around 17psi.

Here's where being overseas with a US-only truck sucks.  They can't get
the bloody part!  PartsAmerica had it of course, and I've just finished
ordering.

But because of a $4 part, I'm stuck with local driving until the part
comes in.  Just in case it doesn't come in before our next long trip -
to Uluru (Ayres Rock), which is a couple hundred miles away - got a
gallon of radiator fluid.  Hopefully it won't be needed.

Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits.

jmc
Bryan - 04 Sep 2006 18:55 GMT
> Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is
> failing.  It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short
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>
> jmc

My experience with a failed cap was the rubber washer.  It had swollen and
wouldn't allow coolant to enter from the coolant recovery tank.  In 32°F/0°C
weather, the engine's temperature would swing wildy.  Lesson: replace the
!$%^&* cap when doing cooling system maintenance.
That reminds me... per Snoman's advice, I gots to step up to 80/20%
coolant/water.  While I'm at it, I'll tighten the front pump bolts (on my
manual trans) to 150 ft/lb and replace the knock sensor on my V10.  After
all, he's THE exspurt (ie, "formerly a drip under pressure").

Bryan ;-)
jmc - 05 Sep 2006 09:08 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
>> Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is
>> failing.  It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Bryan ;-)

Hmmm.  The maximum allowed according to my truck's manual is 70/30.
Dunno what happens if that's exceeded though.

jmc
FMB - 05 Sep 2006 15:23 GMT
> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
>>> Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> jmc

If you have been reading all the recent activity here in the garage, you
would see Bryan is poking fun at SnoMan (aka; Snowidiot, Anus, a.shole,
Hole, a.s Hole, Puddle, a.s Clown, SnoJob, DD or just Denny's neighbor).
Puddle is a self proclaimed expert who pokes his head in here occasionally
to give advice that is less than accurate and in some cases could be
damaging to folks' engine if they don't wait to get the correct advice.
Everyone is still waiting to here where the knock sensor is hiding on the
V10. lol

One of his latest rants was on the % of coolant to use.  If you read him at
all, remember it is just for its Hollywood Entertainment value.

FMB
(N Mexico)

ps: Get those pics online, please.
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 12:07 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
>>>> Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> ps: Get those pics online, please.

yea, I have been, mostly by accident.  Guess I didn't have my sarcasm
radar on :)

Pics are up at http://australia.jodi.ws - click on East MacDonnell
Ranges... enjoy!

jmc
FMB - 06 Sep 2006 12:51 GMT
><snip>> Pics are up at http://australia.jodi.ws - click on East MacDonnell
>Ranges... enjoy!
>
> jmc

Great pictures. Makes me want to hit the road again. Too bad the beautiful
peacock was given such an ugly voice.

FMB
(North Mexico)
Denny - 06 Sep 2006 13:14 GMT
> Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM):
>>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> jmc

This links works perfect tho. Those are some awesome looking rocks, much
different that what I look at in Ohio. Is a Redback a spider or what kind of
critter??

Denny
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 21:40 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Denny exclaimed (06-Sep-06 9:44 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM):
>>>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Denny

A Redback is a black widow with red lightning on top.  Makes it handy
for id- you can tell what it is from both sides :).  They're just as
dangerous as black widows, and infinitely more common here.

jmc
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 21:42 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, Denny exclaimed (06-Sep-06 9:44 PM):

> This links works perfect tho. Those are some awesome looking rocks, much
> different that what I look at in Ohio. Is a Redback a spider or what kind of
> critter??
>
> Denny

Oh, and I fixed the page too, it now says what a redback is...
Roy - 06 Sep 2006 13:20 GMT
> Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM):
>>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> jmc

This link worked. Great pic's thanks for posting them.

Roy
 
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