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My truck smells - coolant problem!
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jmc - 03 Sep 2006 07:31 GMT Later I'll post about my first real (sort of) four wheel drive experience in the Australian Outback (great fun!), but for now:
(2001 Dodge Dakota SLT, 4x4)
I'd been noticing on this trip that my truck has a strong smell of burning rubber, just as I get out of the truck after stopping. It was dissipating fairly quickly though. As I'd never gone 4x4ing before, I wasn't worried enough to look into it (wish I had), since the truck was running fine. Figured it was just something normal for a hardworking truck.
When I got home, I popped the hood, and to my dismay found that coolant had been spraying all over my engine! Looks to my untrained eye like the idiot at the dealership who did my coolant change, didn't tighten the pressure cap all the way - it took a quarter turn more to tighten it than to take it off. I'm betting this has been happening since the coolant was changed, close to two months ago. Haven't been doing much driving, this was the longest journey since then, 100 miles in two days. Today was warmer too, in the low eighties (30c). Truck was in 4Hi, but never 4Lo, both days, and the AC was on (if that matters).
Reservoir is all but dry - doesn't register on the dipstick at all, but I can see something in there. However, the line where I took the pressure cap off is full. My truck never overheated or misbehaved (don't they start pinging when overheating?), but I think I'm lucky I finally noticed this.
There's coolant sprayed *everywhere*. The entire right side of the engine block is liberally sprinkled with the stuff. There's some settled on the frame, and a little bit dripped off It's all underneath the hood, on the battery, all the way back to the firewall.
So, there's a couple of questions here: The dealership is a couple of miles away. Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there, or will it be OK? Oh, yea, they're gonna be hearing from me. I'll be there on the doorstep, with the truck, when they open tomorrow. If *I* can tell when the cap's on all the way, there's no excuse for a mechanic not to get that right!
Was the hot coolant landing on hot engine parts what caused the burning rubber smell? If not, what should I be looking at?
Will the coolant damage said parts?
My lesson learned: ALWAYS ALWAYS check the mechanic's work, if you can, even on the stupid stuff like oil and coolant changes. Won't make that mistake again!
Thanks for any help.
jmc
Tom Lawrence - 03 Sep 2006 08:44 GMT > So, there's a couple of questions here: The dealership is a couple of > miles away. Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there, or > will it be OK? If the radiator itself is full, you're fine to drive it there.
> Was the hot coolant landing on hot engine parts what caused the burning > rubber smell? If not, what should I be looking at? Most likely - although coolant itself usually has a "sweet" smell to it.
> Will the coolant damage said parts? Nah - just spray it down with the hose. Stay away from and/or plug the air intake (don't want to be spraying water in there). IIRC, you've got a big tube that goes into the right-side fender, so you shouldn't have a problem here.
jmc - 03 Sep 2006 14:29 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Tom Lawrence exclaimed (03-Sep-06 5:14 PM):
>> So, there's a couple of questions here: The dealership is a couple of >> miles away. Should I put in tap water to ensure the truck gets there, or [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > tube that goes into the right-side fender, so you shouldn't have a problem > here. I read somewhere that a burning rubber smell could be the clutch. I didn't really have to shift much on this trip... could it be? What other symptoms would there be?
Dunno if it could be related to the rubbery smell, but somewhere where my steering column went into the dash, there was a rattle. Would this be normal, considering the terrain (was either major washboard, or rocky?)
jmc
jmc - 04 Sep 2006 06:35 GMT Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (03-Sep-06 4:01 PM):
> When I got home, I popped the hood, and to my dismay found that coolant > had been spraying all over my engine!
> jmc Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is failing. It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short jaunts, but apparently going 4x4 in warmer temps (not hot here yet, only in the low 80's Fahrenheit (30c)).
They tested it, fails around 17psi.
Here's where being overseas with a US-only truck sucks. They can't get the bloody part! PartsAmerica had it of course, and I've just finished ordering.
But because of a $4 part, I'm stuck with local driving until the part comes in. Just in case it doesn't come in before our next long trip - to Uluru (Ayres Rock), which is a couple hundred miles away - got a gallon of radiator fluid. Hopefully it won't be needed.
Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits.
jmc
Bryan - 04 Sep 2006 18:55 GMT > Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is > failing. It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > jmc My experience with a failed cap was the rubber washer. It had swollen and wouldn't allow coolant to enter from the coolant recovery tank. In 32°F/0°C weather, the engine's temperature would swing wildy. Lesson: replace the !$%^&* cap when doing cooling system maintenance. That reminds me... per Snoman's advice, I gots to step up to 80/20% coolant/water. While I'm at it, I'll tighten the front pump bolts (on my manual trans) to 150 ft/lb and replace the knock sensor on my V10. After all, he's THE exspurt (ie, "formerly a drip under pressure").
Bryan ;-)
jmc - 05 Sep 2006 09:08 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM):
>> Well, turns out it *wasn't* a mechanic's fault, my radiator cap is >> failing. It's been holding pressure fine for winter here and short [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Bryan ;-) Hmmm. The maximum allowed according to my truck's manual is 70/30. Dunno what happens if that's exceeded though.
jmc
FMB - 05 Sep 2006 15:23 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM): >>> Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > jmc If you have been reading all the recent activity here in the garage, you would see Bryan is poking fun at SnoMan (aka; Snowidiot, Anus, a.shole, Hole, a.s Hole, Puddle, a.s Clown, SnoJob, DD or just Denny's neighbor). Puddle is a self proclaimed expert who pokes his head in here occasionally to give advice that is less than accurate and in some cases could be damaging to folks' engine if they don't wait to get the correct advice. Everyone is still waiting to here where the knock sensor is hiding on the V10. lol
One of his latest rants was on the % of coolant to use. If you read him at all, remember it is just for its Hollywood Entertainment value.
FMB (N Mexico)
ps: Get those pics online, please.
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 12:07 GMT Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM): >>>> Pretty annoyed, my truck seems to be failing by bits. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > ps: Get those pics online, please. yea, I have been, mostly by accident. Guess I didn't have my sarcasm radar on :)
Pics are up at http://australia.jodi.ws - click on East MacDonnell Ranges... enjoy!
jmc
FMB - 06 Sep 2006 12:51 GMT ><snip>> Pics are up at http://australia.jodi.ws - click on East MacDonnell >Ranges... enjoy! > > jmc Great pictures. Makes me want to hit the road again. Too bad the beautiful peacock was given such an ugly voice.
FMB (North Mexico)
Denny - 06 Sep 2006 13:14 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM): >>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM): [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > jmc This links works perfect tho. Those are some awesome looking rocks, much different that what I look at in Ohio. Is a Redback a spider or what kind of critter??
Denny
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 21:40 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Denny exclaimed (06-Sep-06 9:44 PM):
>> Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM): >>>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM): [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Denny A Redback is a black widow with red lightning on top. Makes it handy for id- you can tell what it is from both sides :). They're just as dangerous as black widows, and infinitely more common here.
jmc
jmc - 06 Sep 2006 21:42 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Denny exclaimed (06-Sep-06 9:44 PM):
> This links works perfect tho. Those are some awesome looking rocks, much > different that what I look at in Ohio. Is a Redback a spider or what kind of > critter?? > > Denny Oh, and I fixed the page too, it now says what a redback is...
Roy - 06 Sep 2006 13:20 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, FMB exclaimed (05-Sep-06 11:53 PM): >>> Suddenly, without warning, Bryan exclaimed (05-Sep-06 3:25 AM): [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > jmc This link worked. Great pic's thanks for posting them.
Roy
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