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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006

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Where is the sensor for the door open/key in ignition on 2005 Ram 1500 quad.  I want to play CDwith doors open & not hear chime.

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zen@email.net - 04 Sep 2006 23:21 GMT
I want to be able to play music while the doors are open and the key
in the igninion on accessory.  Past autos had a button switch that
could be forced closed one way or another while door was open.  I
assume there is a hidded switch/sensor somewhere.  How do I over-ride
it.
azwiley1 - 05 Sep 2006 00:09 GMT
In my 97 Ram (when I had it) I just found (under the dash) and removed the
buzzer/chime module.

>I want to be able to play music while the doors are open and the key
> in the igninion on accessory.  Past autos had a button switch that
> could be forced closed one way or another while door was open.  I
> assume there is a hidded switch/sensor somewhere.  How do I over-ride
> it.
zen@email.net - 05 Sep 2006 00:20 GMT
>In my 97 Ram (when I had it) I just found (under the dash) and removed the
>buzzer/chime module.
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>> assume there is a hidded switch/sensor somewhere.  How do I over-ride
>> it.

 I wish to leave the chime in because I do like to be warned of my
forgetfulness at times.  I just want to be able to over-ride at will.
Ed H. - 05 Sep 2006 00:48 GMT
On my '99 Ram Quadcab it's a plunger on the verticle portion of the A-pillar
and the chime doesn't sound when I have the key in the accessory position.

>I want to be able to play music while the doors are open and the key
> in the igninion on accessory.  Past autos had a button switch that
> could be forced closed one way or another while door was open.  I
> assume there is a hidded switch/sensor somewhere.  How do I over-ride
> it.
Tom Lawrence - 05 Sep 2006 03:09 GMT
>I want to be able to play music while the doors are open and the key
> in the igninion on accessory.  Past autos had a button switch that
> could be forced closed one way or another while door was open.  I
> assume there is a hidded switch/sensor somewhere.  How do I over-ride
> it.

In the 3rd gen trucks, the sensor is in the door latch.  For the '05 model,
there's a four-pin connector at the latch itself.  You're interested in the
20-gauge violet wire, which is the door ajar sense.  This wire can also be
found in a 10-pin connector under the dash, one row of 4 pins, one row of 6
pins.  To help identify it, these are the colors of the pins:

1- violet (this is the one you want)
2 - light green/yellow
3 - tan/gray
4 - dark green/yellow

5 - dark green/light blue
6 - tan/orange
7 - pink/yellow
8 - orange/light blue
9 - red
10 - black/violet

What I don't know is whether the violet wire is grounded when the door is
open or closed.  You'll have to use a meter and figure that out.  If it's
grounded when the door is closed, then just tap that wire, and run it to a
switch on the dash that will allow you to manually switch to ground.

If it's grounded when the door is opened, cut the wire and run both sides to
a SPST switch.  Turning the switch off will prevent the circuit from being
grounded.
Ed H. - 05 Sep 2006 03:22 GMT
You always have the best information.  Are you a Dodge technician or service
manager?

> >I want to be able to play music while the doors are open and the key
>> in the igninion on accessory.  Past autos had a button switch that
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> to a SPST switch.  Turning the switch off will prevent the circuit from
> being grounded.
Tom Lawrence - 05 Sep 2006 04:21 GMT
> You always have the best information.  Are you a Dodge technician or
> service manager?

Neither...  I'm a computer geek.  I just enjoy working on my vehicles.  I
find the smell of grease and the busted knuckles offsets the pocket
protector and taped-up glasses.  :)
Ed H. - 06 Sep 2006 01:09 GMT
Hey, so am I.  I mostly work on the telephony, wireless and WAN
infrastructure for an independent oil company, but do some work with our
Windows servers and workstations.  I like saving money on vehicle
repairs/upgrades and since I have 3 I don't mind having one down for an
extended period of time while I do it right.  That and it gives me something
to talk about with the real mechanics at my company.

>> You always have the best information.  Are you a Dodge technician or
>> service manager?
>
> Neither...  I'm a computer geek.  I just enjoy working on my vehicles.  I
> find the smell of grease and the busted knuckles offsets the pocket
> protector and taped-up glasses.  :)
Tom Lawrence - 05 Sep 2006 04:16 GMT
When I replied, I was under the impression that the poster was asking about
leaving the driver's door open.  I now see that he probably wants to have
any, or all, doors open without hearing the chime.

It's more work, but it still has to be done by spoofing each door ajar
sensor, as the chime is integrated into the instrument cluster, and can't be
easily disabled on it's own.  In this case, one could obtain all four wires
at the instrument cluster connector.

To remove the instrument cluster, remove the two screws that hold the
cluster bezel in place.  These are on the underside of the bezel, and you'll
need a short, stubby phillips to get them out.  Once the bezel is removed,
four screws hold the cluster in place.  Pull the cluster forward, and
disconnect the electrical connectors.

Of the three cluster connectors, you're looking for the 26-pin gray
connector.  Pins 1-4 are the four door sense circuits (1 - violet, driver's
door   2 - violet/gray, left rear door  3 - violet/yellow, right rear door
4 - violet/white, right rear door).

Again, depending on the operation of the door latch, you'll either need to
tap into all four wires and switch them to ground, or cut all four wires and
insert a switch into the electrical path.  My guess would be that the
circuits are grounded when the door is closed, but double-check just in
case.

If they are grounded when the door is closed, resist the temptation to just
tap all four to the same SPST switch.  You'll disable you door ajar sensors
completely this way, unless all four are opened.  You need to use a 4-pole
switch (probably need to go to an electrical supply place for this - not
something Radio Shack would carry).
zen@email.net - 06 Sep 2006 20:38 GMT
Thanks to all who responded-- I was out of town until last nite late-
will check out the wiring in next few days

Thanks again.

>When I replied, I was under the impression that the poster was asking about
>leaving the driver's door open.  I now see that he probably wants to have
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>switch (probably need to go to an electrical supply place for this - not
>something Radio Shack would carry).
 
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