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And posting with avengeance. I knew he couldn't resist our sand box for too long. Let the games begin. Ya don't suppose snohole is paying Budd to take the heat off if him do ya? Now if we could just get Little Jay to come back. beekeep > And posting with avengeance. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Now if we could just get Little Jay to come back. Well, it should make for a interesting week end. Roy > beekeep >> And posting with avengeance. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Well, it should make for a interesting week end. it should. personally, i'm gonna try to ignore the idiot, but my track record for that isn't so very good. >Roy >> beekeep Roy, that depends on you and the others. If any arguments start with me, it will be because you, theguy, beekeeper, T-bone, or someone else chooses to tell me to not practice my beliefs, to shut up, ... to censor me, to deny me my Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion, to worship as I please. If my beliefs include verses in my sigline or responding to false teachings or misquoted Scriptures, what does that matter to you or the others?  SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >> And posting with avengeance. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Roy >> beekeep SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Roy, that depends on you and the others. > > If any arguments start with me, it will be because you, theguy, beekeeper, > T-bone, or someone else chooses I see that I get left out again....... My feelings are hurt... <G> Denny I never argue with anyone that doesn't deserve it, and you just don't deserve it. <VBG> SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >> Roy, that depends on you and the others. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Denny SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >I never argue with anyone that doesn't deserve it, and you just don't >deserve it. You can tell me....I can take it.....Is it 'cause of my cute furry ears??? Denny > <VBG> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Denny Now, Denny, am I gonna have to call your_other_ boss, Mr. E. Bunny and tell him? You don't want to get him hopping mad, now do ya? Ya just don't deserve it. If ya did ya'll get it real good, but ya don't. Now be glad ya don't deserve it. There are some things it's better to not deserve, some things ya don't wanna ever deserve. VBG SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >>I never argue with anyone that doesn't deserve it, and you just don't >>deserve it. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>> Denny SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On 9/8/06 5:58 PM, in article 6tnMg.594$zt1.227@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com, >> I never argue with anyone that doesn't deserve it, and you just don't >> deserve it. > > You can tell me....I can take it.....Is it 'cause of my cute furry ears??? And the fluffy ball of fur on your rear :)) dale > Denny > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> >>> Denny >I never argue with anyone that doesn't deserve it, and you just don't >deserve it. > ><VBG> Admit it, Budd... In a battle of wits, the wabbit is sort of out gunned.. *eg* Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm Now I wouldn't say he "outgunned", but he might have difficulty finding the battlefield without a GPS. . . .and someone to explain it to him. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:40:44 -0600, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom > SPAM.net> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Roy, that depends on you and the others. > > If any arguments start with me, it will be because you, theguy, beekeeper, > T-bone, or someone else chooses to tell me to not practice my beliefs, to > shut up, ... to censor me, to deny me my Constitutional Right to Freedom > of Religion, to worship as I please. Budd, as I see it and saw it before ya did your usual, nobody gives a damn what ya believe, if ya believe or not. But every damn thread you involved youself in immediatly turned into a religious experience. That what ya want to do that's fine, I'm sure the results will be the same. Worked for me anyway. Roy No, Roy, I did not turn them into what you call "religious experiences". Someone else did that. I responded as I believe I am supposed, to according to my beliefs, to misquotes and untruths about Christianity, which is to offer the corrections for the quotes and truth instead of untruths. I will continue to do so. It was the refusal to accept both what the Bible actually says and what Christianity really is that caused the problem. I just caught the flak because God, according to the attackers, wasn't available. So, I was told I was "over the edge", had "lost it", "going too far", etc. Stop and think carefully, Roy, I only said the Bible says other belief systems are wrong, that the verses in the Bible have simple meanings, and that the Bible says those who do not believe as the Scriptures say you should will go to Hell. Not one darn time did I say you had to believe as I do or else. That is your choice If you want to argue with someone over what's in the Bible, take it up with God. I'm just the messenger boy. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >> Roy, that depends on you and the others. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Roy SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > No, Roy, I did not turn them into what you call "religious experiences". > Someone else did that. That was enuff said for me but you continue on into a 4 or 5 paragraph. > I responded as I believe I am supposed, to according to my beliefs, to > misquotes and untruths about Christianity, which is to offer the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > If you want to argue with someone over what's in the Bible, take it up > with God. I'm just the messenger boy. No you are the one who constantly interjects your belief in the bible into every response you make as you have here.. Thus my "religious experience" Not a argument just how I see it.. Roy So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? Roy, as I understand and believe the Scriptures, I am to be ready to give everyone an answer and a reason for my faith (1st Peter). I am to not hide my Light under a bushel (Matthew, Mark and Luke) and I'm to keep myself acceptable to the Lord (Matthew). I apologize for not reading your mind and in that manner discovering I'm not allowed to type as many words as I see fit to use to reply to a post. A pox on me!!!!! Tell me something, would a person of another ethnic persuasion from yourself be required to deny what that persuasion is in order to respond to a post by your rules? There's a name for that . . . . I am a Fundamental, Conservative Christian (an ethnicity by definition) and I will not deny it for you or anyone. Oh, golly, this makes six (6) paragraphs!!!! All you have to do, Roy, is not reply and let me be as I am. Either accept me or killfile / ignore me. But as long as you continue to tell me what I can or cannot do, can or cannot be, can or cannot believe, then I will reply to those comments because, by the Bill of Rights, I have the right to reply to misquotes and misinterpretations of Scripture, be the Christian I believe I should be, and believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, transcribed by 47 inspired authors in the form of 66 books with an accuracy of 99.5% when compared to the oldest copies of the books of the Bible. Have a good day. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >> No, Roy, I did not turn them into what you call "religious experiences". >> Someone else did that. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Roy SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com So, what's your truck question? Larry Behold Beware Believe > So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected > Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? > > <<snip>> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com What's yours? I've been around here about 10 years, and how long did you say you had been here? SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > So, what's your truck question? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> <<snip>> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spamers that are running a scam. > So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected > Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? No Budd not in the least. I would think that you might take to alt.religion or whatever > Roy, as I understand and believe the Scriptures, I am to be ready to give > everyone an answer and a reason for my faith (1st Peter). I am to not hide > my Light under a bushel (Matthew, Mark and Luke) and I'm to keep myself > acceptable to the Lord (Matthew). You still don't get it do ya? Doubtful many here care and fewer probably want to read what ya believe in. > I apologize for not reading your mind and in that manner discovering I'm > not allowed to type as many words as I see fit to use to reply to a post. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I am a Fundamental, Conservative Christian (an ethnicity by definition) > and I will not deny it for you or anyone. No Budd in mho you are a religious nut. > Oh, golly, this makes six (6) paragraphs!!!! > > All you have to do, Roy, is not reply and let me be as I am. Either accept > me or killfile / ignore me. Yup, you were the first person I had ever used a killfile with. In fact I had figure out how to use it. >But as long as you continue to tell me what I can or cannot do, can or >cannot be, can or cannot believe, then I will reply to those comments [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >inspired authors in the form of 66 books with an accuracy of 99.5% when >compared to the oldest copies of the books of the Bible. Budd you came back just to argue that's it nothing more, it is the same BS that you spewed before ya left last time Here's my words to inspire you. Go f.ck yourself! I just don't have the time or inclnation to read your mindless crap. Now that should inspire you to really play the victim. Plonk! >> So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected >> Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? > > No Budd not in the least. I would think that you might take to > alt.religion or whatever What good would that do if the misquote or misinterpretation is in a.ad.t.?????? >> Roy, as I understand and believe the Scriptures, I am to be ready to give >> everyone an answer and a reason for my faith (1st Peter). I am to not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You still don't get it do ya? Doubtful many here care and fewer probably > want to read what ya believe in. I have no doubts about whether you care or not, you don't, but that's just the way you are about it, right? OTOH, I do care, and that's the way I am about it. >> I apologize for not reading your mind and in that manner discovering I'm >> not allowed to type as many words as I see fit to use to reply to a post. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > No Budd in mho you are a religious nut. Thank you. That's the kindest thing you've called me in a while. >> Oh, golly, this makes six (6) paragraphs!!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yup, you were the first person I had ever used a killfile with. In fact I > had figure out how to use it. Congrats. Glad I could help you increase your computer skills. >>But as long as you continue to tell me what I can or cannot do, can or >>cannot be, can or cannot believe, then I will reply to those comments [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Budd you came back just to argue that's it nothing more, it is the same BS > that you spewed before ya left last time No, it's the same facts I stated and you objected to the last time. > Here's my words to inspire you. Go f.ck yourself! I just don't have the > time or inclnation to read your mindless crap. Fine, then don't, but I'll leave the sexual perversity to those that don't believe it is the sin the Bible calls it. > Now that should inspire you to really play the victim. > > Plonk! <LOL> I am not the "Victim", Roy. I am the warrior. I have the whole Armor of God (Ephesians) SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spamers that are running a scam. > So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected > Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > my Light under a bushel (Matthew, Mark and Luke) and I'm to keep myself > acceptable to the Lord (Matthew). Here we go again. Try this, thick skull: talk religious nonsense on a religious ng ... NOT ALT.AUTOS.DODGE.TRUCK. Your stupidity is not that you believe ... it's that you try to convince everyone else. If we want to be brain washed, we'll find you in alt.religion.* Craig C. Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. The sad thing I find here is that a lot of people are trying to moderate the group. If you want a moderated, invitation only group, start one. If you are protecting the interest of the unknowing, as it the case with Snoballs, that is all well and fine. But, if it is just something that you simply don't like or believe, why the f.ck don't we all just ignore it? At one time, this group was full of people that talked, shared information and helped people. I would even go so far as to say that at one time, each one of us though of the others as "friends." Then there was the problems w/Lil Jay, then DD, and god knows who else. What the f.ck happen? >> So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected >> Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig C. > Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the > appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you simply don't like or believe, why the f.ck don't we all just ignore > it? Yup, that's what I've done. > At one time, this group was full of people that talked, shared information > and helped people. I would even go so far as to say that at one time, > each one of us though of the others as "friends." Then there was the > problems w/Lil Jay, then DD, and god knows who else. That still happens most of the time. But every so often this happens > What the f.ck happen? With regards to this thread? What you see unfolding has happened before. You'd have to go back a few months to get the gist of it. Actually you probably should read it, sorta blew me away. Roy >>> So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected >>> Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Craig C. >> Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the >> appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> What the f.ck happen? Imho it started several years ago when some of the old-timers kinda drifted away. Then a few dropped by and the drift of the group went to arguing about anything, didn't really matter what the subject was. And it didn't take long to get to the name calling and deep jabs. I think that drove off some of the other guys that got tired of reading it. I admit that it was entertaining for awhile but it does get old. Now it seems like its getting back to the 'friendly' stage with the joking and info trading. Of course, there are exceptions to everything. Denny >> Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the >> appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Roy Nah Roy, not with this thread, in general with the group. I started in here around 98 which is when I got stationed in Hawaii and have been here since. I have seen (read) a lot of sh.t in here, but over the last two years or so it has gotten crazy stupid. >>>> So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected >>>> Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> >>> Craig C. >>> Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the >>> appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > since. I have seen (read) a lot of sh.t in here, but over the last two > years or so it has gotten crazy stupid. Different levels of tolorance I guess... Things and people change so it is what it is today. I'm sure it will change again as different people flow in and out. Roy >>>>> So, you want to censor me if I see a need to respond with a corrected >>>>> Biblical quote or an explanation from the Scriptures? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>> >>>> Craig C. Like I said a long time ago, Larry, we left the back door open too many times. SignatureBudd Cochran "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the > appearance of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spamers that are running a scam. > Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the appearance > of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. Oh, kiss my a.s. I am not trying to moderate anything. However, the NAME of this ng indicates that the discussions should be about DODGE TRUCKS ... NOT GOD, JESUS, THE LAST DAYS, BIBLE, THEOLOGY or other PERSONAL CHOICE topics. > The sad thing I find here is that a lot of people are trying to moderate the > group. If you want a moderated, invitation only group, start one. And if I want to talk about god, I'll go to a group that was established for that purpose. Again, for the slow/religious retards, this is NOT a religious ng. > don't like or believe, why the f.ck don't we all just ignore it? No! This is a group for talk of Dodge trucks. Not theology. > At one time, this group was full of people that talked, shared information > and helped people. Right ... about DODGE TRUCKS. NOT about whether Christianity is the answer for mankind. >I would even go so far as to say that at one time, each > one of us though of the others as "friends." Correct. Then some "unnamed" jackass started all of the God talk. Futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. > What the f.ck happen? Religious tyranny. Craig C. Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the appearance > > of) trying to moderate an un-moderated group. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Craig C. I would say that some just don't know how to play nice. > Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Craig C. > Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! That kinda sounds a bit ironic coming from you! Otherwise it sounds like a good idea. >> Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! > > That kinda sounds a bit ironic coming from you! Otherwise it sounds like a > good idea. LOL my thoughts exactly. but still, I have to give Tom credit where credit is due. Signature---------------------------- -Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs. Tom, that will be up to you. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. >Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! Budd got bored and picked up his fishing pole. He seems to be getting quite a few bites! Even some of the smarter ones have holes in their lips. beekeep Johnny conchsell is representing the sting ray that killed Crockodile Hunter. He says he's gonna get him off the hook. You still don't seem to have it figured out, Greg. Think back . . . . .I mentioned my beliefs in a post a long time back and got ripped into for it and was accused of proselytizing, and forcing my beliefs on others (all false accusations) and was told I was an idiot for believing. And it hasn't quit. Why should I not defend myself and my beliefs, Greg? SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >>Man, is this crap ever going to end??? Can't we all just get along! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Hunter. > He says he's gonna get him off the hook. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. No thank you on the a.s kissing, though you might be into that sort of thing, I don't swing that way. :) As to the rest of your rant, though this may be a group titled Alt.Auto.Dodge.Trucks as it is an un-moderated group ANYONE can talk about ANYTHING they desire. Again, if you don't like what a person has to say, or in your case, you know one person is posting something you don't want to read, then simply don't read it. BTW by your saying that the topics should ONLY be about Dodge trucks, and not about "other PERSONAL CHOICE topics." is a form of moderation. >> Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the >> appearance [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Craig C. > No thank you on the a.s kissing, though you might be into that sort of > thing, I don't swing that way. :) I know that you know what "kiss my a.s" means. Don't make this a "gay thing". > As to the rest of your rant, though this may be a group titled > Alt.Auto.Dodge.Trucks as it is an un-moderated group ANYONE can talk about > ANYTHING they desire. Again, if you don't like what a person has to say, or > in your case, you know one person is posting something you don't want to > read, then simply don't read it. How about this: If you have a religious bullshit rant/opinion to make ... EMAIL IT to the person. This group was not created for religious talk. Period. > BTW by your saying that the topics should ONLY be about Dodge trucks, and > not about "other > PERSONAL CHOICE topics." is a form of moderation. So ... if I go to church, can I take the podium and talk about Dodge trucks? Fact is: if you go to church you expect to talk about god. When I visit alt.autos.dodge.trucks, I expect to talk about Dodge trucks. There is no moderation involved ... just common sense. Craig C. On 9/10/06 5:53 PM, in article 1157932419.123901.184850@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com, "craig@metronet.com" <mcraigchr@gmail.com> wrote: >> No thank you on the a.s kissing, though you might be into that sort of >> thing, I don't swing that way. :) [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Craig C. Oh take a pill and relax dale > Oh take a pill and relax I am relaxed. No pill necessary. Thanks for your concern, however. :) You know what relaxes me? WORKING ON MY DODGE TRUCK. Which, without the valuable assistance of this ng, would not have been as relaxing. Craig C. On 9/11/06 8:23 AM, in article 1157984635.888946.251980@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com, "craig@metronet.com" <mcraigchr@gmail.com> wrote: >> Oh take a pill and relax > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Craig C. What really relaxed me was when I traded my rusting 2003 dodge in for a ford powerchoke :)))) Just kiddin, miss that tincan cummins ins some ways dale >> Sadly, your stupidity is that you are (or at least are giving the >> appearance [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > TRUCKS ... NOT GOD, JESUS, THE LAST DAYS, BIBLE, THEOLOGY or other > PERSONAL CHOICE topics. No, the name of the group, alt.autos.dodge.trucks, merely means the primary indicated topic of the group is Dodge trucks but, by virtue of being UNMODERATED, almost any topic is permitted. Oh, btw, I only talk about my beliefs when the Bible is misquoted, misinterpreted or an attack is made on my beliefs, all of which have happened in this Dodge newsgroup. >> The sad thing I find here is that a lot of people are trying to moderate >> the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > established for that purpose. Again, for the slow/religious retards, > this is NOT a religious ng. Again for the anti-Christian bigots, the group is unmoderated. Feel free to leave if it bothers you so much. >> don't like or believe, why the f.ck don't we all just ignore it? > > No! This is a group for talk of Dodge trucks. Not theology. There you go moderating again. Why don't you just go start your own group and you can only discuss your topics? >> At one time, this group was full of people that talked, shared >> information >> and helped people. > > Right ... about DODGE TRUCKS. NOT about whether Christianity is the > answer for mankind. I (me, myself, I, first person singular pronoun) have never said it is the answer to all mankinds problems, but the Bible does. >>I would even go so far as to say that at one time, each >> one of us though of the others as "friends." > > Correct. Then some "unnamed" jackass started all of the God talk. Ah, you're talking about the person that got all bent out of shape when I mentioned my personal beliefs in a thread a couple years ago. Shame on you for calling them names. > Futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. No, it proves you don't understand Christianity and have no desire to, that's all. >> What the f.ck happen? > > Religious tyranny. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! ROTFLMBO!!!!!! Apparently, it's "religious tyranny" in your dictionary to be harrassed for having Christian beliefs, evidently. > Craig C. Killfile me, Craig, or leave the group, what ever you choose. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. > No, the name of the group, alt.autos.dodge.trucks, merely means the primary > indicated topic of the group is Dodge trucks but, by virtue of being > UNMODERATED, almost any topic is permitted. Your religious topics are unwelcome. Are you too ignorant to see that? > Oh, btw, I only talk about my beliefs when the Bible is misquoted, > misinterpreted or an attack is made on my beliefs, all of which have > happened in this Dodge newsgroup. No, you spout your sh.t unlike any "victim" I have ever seen. Were you a.s raped by a priest? Is that the drive behind your constant religious mantra? (Even if this is the case, I'd still like you to understand that this IS NOT the ng for that discussion. Try alt.religion.a.s.rape.budd.will.he.ever.shut.up) > Again for the anti-Christian bigots, the group is unmoderated. Feel free to > leave if it bothers you so much. Or ... YOU can leave and spread your nonsense to a religious group, where it BELONGS. This is alt.autos.dodge.trucks. > There you go moderating again. Why don't you just go start your own group > and you can only discuss your topics? alt.autos.dodge.trucks. What does that mean to you? > I (me, myself, I, first person singular pronoun) have never said it is the > answer to all mankinds problems, but the Bible does. Shut the f.ck up for christ's sake. > > Correct. Then some "unnamed" jackass started all of the God talk. > > Ah, you're talking about the person that got all bent out of shape when I > mentioned my personal beliefs in a thread a couple years ago. Shame on you > for calling them names. And where did those beliefs get mentioned? alt.AUTOS.DODGE.TRUCKS. See anything out of place there? > > Futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. > > No, it proves you don't understand Christianity and have no desire to, > that's all. My experiences with christianity aside, it still does not change the FACT that this is not the forum for such discussions. > > Religious tyranny. > > Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! ROTFLMBO!!!!!! > > Apparently, it's "religious tyranny" in your dictionary to be harrassed for > having Christian beliefs, evidently. You are old and apparently retarded as well. ALT.AUTOS.DODGE.TRUCKS. Dwell on it. Craig C. Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking like it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! This is an un f.cking moderated group! Now sit the f.ck down, shut the f.ck up or get the f.ck out and STOP trying to f.cking moderate! >> No, the name of the group, alt.autos.dodge.trucks, merely means the >> primary [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Craig C. >Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking like >it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! >This is an un f.cking moderated group! Now sit the f.ck down, shut the f.ck >up or get the f.ck out and STOP trying to f.cking moderate! larry, look, the same argument you use against craig, he can use against you. this is an unmoderated ng, you are correct. that simply means that everyone can say whatever they want, including craig. now, we would hope that common sense would enter into all of this somewhere, but of course common sense is not so common. the deal really is that craig is using some common sense but you want to argue individual rights. in an unmoderated ng, i suppose that individual rights rule becuase people can be as moronic as they chose to be. never the less, you are using a philosophy that is just as valid for craig as it is for budd. craig isn't trying to moderate any more than he is trying to get budd to stop moderating this ng as a religious debate. in the end though, craig and budd can pretty much say whatever the f.ck they want to say. obviously, common sense has no place here as friendships and emotion prevail. me? i got no problem with that. i got no problem with budd. he has every right to be whatever he choses to be. he has made it pretty clear what he choses to be. i'm willing to let that go, but you really got to let craig be what he choses to be. in this case, he really is just a fairly sane voice in a fog of stupidity, but that is just my opinion. >>> No, the name of the group, alt.autos.dodge.trucks, merely means the >>> primary [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >> >> Craig C. you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the title of the group indicates one thing, as with any un-moderated group, any topic is fair game. We both know that we all talk about so much in here that is not dodge truck related it is not funny. I am not a religious person, but I can not and will not fault Budd for his feelings, thoughts and beliefs and I don't think that it is right that everyone appears to be doing just that. On the other hand though (sorry Budd) I also don't feel that religion need be introduced in every single solitary discussion in here. The sig line is one thing, correcting some one on a incorrect posting is the right thing to do also, but there has to be a line drawn some where, right?. I think it ALL should just be left at that. >>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking >>like [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>> >>> Craig C. > you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My > point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the > title of the group indicates one thing, as with any un-moderated group, > any topic is fair game. We both know that we all talk about so much in > here that is not dodge truck related it is not funny. Agreed and I have, in the past joined in and had a heck of a good time teasing Den . . the person of interest in the thread. > I am not a religious person, but I can not and will not fault Budd for his > feelings, thoughts and beliefs and I don't think that it is right that > everyone appears to be doing just that. Larry, I do appreciate your honesty and forthright speaking. I also appreciate your spiritual position. I only hope that if you ever have a spirtual question you will permit a friend who cares about you answer it for you. I will not, and it's here for all to see, demand you join my church or beliefs. Fair enough, my friend? > On the other hand though (sorry Budd) ( Not a problem, friend) I also > don't feel that religion need be introduced in every single solitary > discussion in here. I don't as seen by my replies to problems and questions (with a small teasing about low tech coordinate determination systems). > The sig line is one thing, correcting some one on a incorrect posting is > the right thing to do also, but there has to be a line drawn some where, > right?. I think it ALL should just be left at that. Agreed. And it's all I've ever asked anyone to do, if they would really take the time to read what's in my replies. I won't bring up "the subject", but I won't back away from defending it. Thank you, Larry. >>>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking >>>like [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>> >>>> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. >> you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. >> My point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Agreed and I have, in the past joined in and had a heck of a good time > teasing Den . . the person of interest in the thread. Well, you know, that damn wabbit is just so furry and dare I say cute! <VBFG> >> I am not a religious person, but I can not and will not fault Budd for >> his feelings, thoughts and beliefs and I don't think that it is right [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for you. I will not, and it's here for all to see, demand you join my > church or beliefs. Fair enough, my friend? Budd, I have no problems with you, nor have I ever, so it is all good. >> On the other hand though (sorry Budd) ( Not a problem, friend) I also >> don't feel that religion need be introduced in every single solitary [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thank you, Larry. No worries man. >>>>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking >>>>like [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Craig C. >> you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My >> point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >the time to read what's in my replies. I won't bring up "the subject", but I >won't back away from defending it. this is a fair position budd. the only other thing that i would "ask" is that you not take offense so easily. a lot of time people are just teasing you the same way that they are teasing others but you take it seriously and off we go with another huge victim thread. >Thank you, Larry. >> [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Craig C. >>> you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. >>> My [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > teasing you the same way that they are teasing others but you take it > seriously and off we go with another huge victim thread. Well, the problem is that teasing is only fun if it's not offensive to the recipient. Unfortunately, some cannot realize that I take offense at being teased about what is most dear to my soul, my beliefs. Nor do I tease someone about their beliefs, for that reason. To me, teasing a person over a misstatement he made many years ago about bunny suits is one thing, but teasing a person over what he believes in, what gives him comfort in this screwed up world, is off limits. One thing I don't quite understand is how I'm the "victim" in your eyes. I am not the victim, for according to my beliefs, I am the winner. Does that show you what I mean about how it should be off limits out of courtesy to a fellow human being? All the assaults on beliefs are damaging to a person's sense of worth. Btw, as you, and others, have mentioned more than once, you can't always determine if a statement is in jest from pixels on a screen, so you look at that person's track record with you. Denny, Larry, Nate and others have teased me enough to understand them a bit. You, for example, in this persona at least, have been mostly antagonistic. If a person regularly hits you, do you keep letting them hit you without response? SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. >you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My >point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the >title of the group indicates one thing, as with any un-moderated group, any >topic is fair game. We both know that we all talk about so much in here >that is not dodge truck related it is not funny. i agree with you. in a way, it is funny though, i enjoy reading the wide variety of topics. dodge trucks is simply a place holder, the topic of discussion is wide open. >I am not a religious person, but I can not and will not fault Budd for his >feelings, thoughts and beliefs and I don't think that it is right that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >on a incorrect posting is the right thing to do also, but there has to be a >line drawn some where, right?. I think it ALL should just be left at that. agreed again. i really am trying to do just that. >>>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking >>>like [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>>> >>>> Craig C. >>you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My >>point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >wide variety of topics. dodge trucks is simply a place holder, the >topic of discussion is wide open. <snip> For sure... It's been my experience that newsgroups that stay strictly on topic usually dry up and blow away... Sure, this is a good place to get and give help about Dodge trucks, but there are only so many questions to ask/answer... the wide range of other stuff we talk about is what keeps the group going between the "real" purpose of the group.. IMHO, restricting talk here to dodge is like restricting the talk at a Lions Club meeting to charity events... After a while you have an empty room to talk to.. YMWV Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm > IMHO, restricting talk here to dodge is like restricting the talk at a Lions > Club meeting to charity events... After a while you have an empty room to talk > to.. YMWV The occasional off-topic "OT" threads are a normal part of any unmoderated ng. And, (just in case you care), I don't have a problem with that. However, in the past few months, Budd has included religious AND/OR political BS into almost every single post that he has made. That is not the PURPOSE of this ng. And, dare I say, is unwelcome to many of this ng's participants. OT threads are fun ... in fact, I am guilty of contributing on many occasions. What I am griping about here is 1) how common religious talk is in this ng and 2) when someone makes a post about the torque spec on a fly wheel, the subject should not go into Jesus walking on water ... unless the torque spec is something he tripped over and got wet. Craig C. d, dare I say, is > unwelcome to many of this ng's participants. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Craig C. That's funny, See I told you that pill will relax you :)))) dale On 9/11/06 8:50 AM, in article abtag21e4h8o625d7eegbiompia15b51li@4ax.com, >>> you are 100% correct and I agree with what you have to say about this. My >>> point now, as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. Though the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm Talking about Dodge sometimes get boring. Remember the times when we talked about dearranged dragon, building tator guns, dodge ewe straighting us guys out once in awhile >Talking about Dodge sometimes get boring. >Remember the times when we talked about dearranged dragon, building tator >guns, dodge ewe straighting us guys out once in awhile or the thread about GPS systems... not specifically related to Dodge, but why not tap knowledge here? Hell, I asked about woodworking newsgroups here a few years ago and got great leads.. *g* Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm >On 9/11/06 8:50 AM, in article abtag21e4h8o625d7eegbiompia15b51li@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >Remember the times when we talked about dearranged dragon, building tator >guns, dodge ewe straighting us guys out once in awhile absolutely. especially the tater guns. In do wish you would open your eyes, heart and mind and realize that I am not "moderating the group", just defending my beliefs. Until you break loose from that misconception, you will never see what I am really doing or trying to do. Or do you even want to? Once everyone quits telling me I can't defend my beliefs, can't respond to misquotes, etc. then I will gladly shut up about them. But, even you, who claims he's going to ignore me, continue to do the little stabs at my beliefs with the " moderating this ng as a religious debate" and "fog of stupidity" comments. Tell me how those comments help the situation? SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) >>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking >>like [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>> >>> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. >>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking like >>it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >what he choses to be. in this case, he really is just a fairly sane >voice in a fog of stupidity, but that is just my opinion. Holy sh.t! theguy has become the voice of reason in the group and he's pretty much expressing my opinion.. How scary is THAT? *roflmao* Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm >>>Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking like >>>it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis >https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm as they say mac.................if you hang around long enough you will see just about anything. lol. Relax, Larry. He's made his choices and one is to be an idiot. Thanks, friend. SignatureBudd Cochran "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking > like it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> >> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. TAKE #2 howdy budd, how goes it? long time no see, bring me up to speed with whats going on in your life. nathan > Relax, Larry. He's made his choices and one is to be an idiot. > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >>> >>> Craig C. Hey, Nate!! What happened? I replied to your post but???? Ah, the marvels of Usenet. Anyway, I'm doing some fishing (caught and released a 16" Largemouth back in June), working on my old scooter (settled on doing a tribute paint layout to honor all branches of the services, fire, police, EMS, in a US flag style) and trying to keep the old thumper thumpin'. Health is "ok", but I'm having a little bit more trouble with my blood sugars (type 2 diabetic) and a heart stress test was inconclusive because no one told me to not take my Metropolol in the AM before the test. That medication limits the maximum heart rate to about 100 BPM. How is the family? What ya doing these days? SignatureBudd Cochran "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > TAKE #2 > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >>>> >>>> Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. >Relax, Larry. He's made his choices and one is to be an idiot. > >Thanks, friend. Congratulations, Budd... that was one of the more Christian and non-judgemental statements that I've heard in a long time... Hope he doesn't feel like it was a "personal attack" (tongue in cheek so hard it hurts) Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm It was the Truth. and we all know my source for Truth. SignatureBudd Cochran John 3:16-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:23, 6:23 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." (John Adams) > On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:04:29 -0600, "Budd Cochran" <mr-d150@preciscom > SPAM.net> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis > https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Warning: Do not use Ultimate-Anonymity They are worthless spammers that are running a scam. > Hey a.shole, what the f.ck don't you understand! If you don't f.cking like > it, don't f.cking read it you Dee Dee Dee! > This is an un f.cking moderated group! Now sit the f.ck down, shut the f.ck > up or get the f.ck out and STOP trying to f.cking moderate! I'm not familiar with "Dee Dee Dee". Is that purely a redneck term? Bringing it back to the f.cking SUBJECT of the NG, it does start with a "D" ... as in DODGE. Craig C. > I'm not familiar with "Dee Dee Dee". Is that purely a redneck term? > > Craig C. Carlos Mencia explains what it means in this video: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=19182 SignatureKen Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I just happen to watch and enjoy good comedy. >> I'm not familiar with "Dee Dee Dee". Is that purely a redneck term? >> >> Craig C. > > Carlos Mencia explains what it means in this video: > http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=19182 > Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ currently, I > was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I just happen to > watch and enjoy good comedy. Me too, where? Roy >>> I'm not familiar with "Dee Dee Dee". Is that purely a redneck term? >>> >>> Craig C. >> >> Carlos Mencia explains what it means in this video: >> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=19182 >> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ currently, I >> was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I just happen to >> watch and enjoy good comedy. > > Me too, where? Where born, Buffalo. Where live, Sierra Vista. > Roy >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> Carlos Mencia explains what it means in this video: >>> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=19182 >>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ currently, >>> I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I just happen [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Where born, Buffalo. Where live, Sierra Vista. I was born in Troy >>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ currently, >>>> I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I just happen [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I was born in Troy Small ng err world. I mght be moving back to the area if this job comes through. A GS-09 position at the Army Medical Center, West Point. It would be nice as I would be only a few hours instead of days away from my son. >>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > would be nice as I would be only a few hours instead of days away from my > son. I haven't been back in 30 years. Cold enough here in MA. Can't wait to get to FL. >>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I haven't been back in 30 years. Cold enough here in MA. Can't wait to get > to FL. I used to go back every year at Christmas (umm is that a religious statement?) to see my son and for the most part hated the weather. Being in AZ and HI spoiled me. Though it does get cold here in the winter, we don't get 84" of snow in 36 hours! Though for the money that job will pay, I can learn to deal with the cold and snow again. I'll just have to trade the Chevy in for a F-250 Superduty! >>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > in AZ and HI spoiled me. Though it does get cold here in the winter, we > don't get 84" of snow in 36 hours! There they spread it out over a couple of days but they get a bunch. >Though for the money that job will pay, I can learn to deal with the cold >and snow again. I'll just have to trade the Chevy in for a F-250 >Superduty! A close friend has a F-350 S/D diesel and is none to happy with it. Kicking himself for not staying with a Cummins.ymmv. >>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a redneck. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > A close friend has a F-350 S/D diesel and is none to happy with it. > Kicking himself for not staying with a Cummins.ymmv. I have seen and heard a lot of both good and bad with the Fords. Biggest thing I like is the room in them. Having crawled around in all three manufactures 250/2500 series trucks, the ford (imo) has the most room. This is something I want for comfort if I were to be driving from West POint to Buffalo a lot. >>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > This is something I want for comfort if I were to be driving from West > POint to Buffalo a lot. I've made a couple of trips to FL in the 05 QC with the wife and a 85 pound dog and there was plenty of room. Gotta go with what ya like though, it is your a.s that has to be happy. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > pound dog and there was plenty of room. > Gotta go with what ya like though, it is your a.s that has to be happy. I wonder if I should get heated leather seats? Mike?! <VBG> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > I wonder if I should get heated leather seats? Mike?! <VBG> Up there you'll want them.<G> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >I wonder if I should get heated leather seats? Mike?! <VBG> not sure when your looking to buy but the '08 ford (i think it starts selling this january) has a new engine. the current 6l has been really problamatic. if you can, you might want to wait until the new one comes out. i have a bunch of friends with the 6l ford diesel. no one that i know would buy another but they love the rest of the truck. everythng that i have heard about this new engine has been good. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > one that i know would buy another but they love the rest of the truck. > everythng that i have heard about this new engine has been good. Who is making the engine. If it is another navistar........ Roy >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Ken, and for the record, though I may reside in AZ >>>>>>>>>>>>> currently, I was born and raised in NY, so I am far from a [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >Roy i think that it is, but not positive roy. i read about the new dc and the new ford diesels a while back and can't remember for sure (age?). as i recall, the new ford is a 6.4l and the new dc is a 6.7l cummins, with a new auto tranny that is a six speed?????? > i think that it is, but not positive roy. i read about the new dc and > the new ford diesels a while back and can't remember for sure (age?). > as i recall, the new ford is a 6.4l and the new dc is a 6.7l cummins, > with a new auto tranny that is a six speed?????? Yes, the new Ford is also a Navistar. While much has been written about it, with all kinds of glowing reviews, the same was said/written about the 6.0L when it first landed, too. Time will tell. As for the Dodge, currently only the chassis cabs are available with the 6.7L engine (a bored and stroked 5.9L), and they are optioned with an Aisin 6speed transmission. Starting in January, as a mid-model-year change, the regular 2500/3500 pickups will come with the 6.7L as well, and will be optioned with the DC 68RFE - an in-house-designed 6-speed auto, similar in design to the 545RFE (ie. drive clutches and holding clutches, instead of bands like the 4xRE's, and full electronic shifting). One of the truck rags recently reported on the upcoming availability of the "new Aisin 68RE" transmission. That's wrong. They're two distinctly separate transmissions. |
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