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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006

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Cummins Piston-to-Bore Clearance

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Perses - 12 Sep 2006 00:22 GMT
Looking for information on the Piston-to-Bore clearance of the 5.9L
Cummins.  This is information that should be in the shop manual (if I
had access to one).  Need to know the clearance spec. and if there is
more than one piston grade.  Thx.

If available I'd also like to know the bore and piston diameter
tolerances.
Ed H. - 12 Sep 2006 01:29 GMT
From my '99 factory service manual...
Cylinder Bore Diamater (Max)..........102.116mm (4.0203 in.)
Cylinder Bore our of round (Max) .....0.038mm (0.0015 in.)

Piston Skirt Diameter .........................101.864-101.896mm
(4.0104-4.0117 in.)

Sorry, I couldn't find anything on Piston-to-Bore clearance.

> Looking for information on the Piston-to-Bore clearance of the 5.9L
> Cummins.  This is information that should be in the shop manual (if I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> If available I'd also like to know the bore and piston diameter
> tolerances.
Perses - 12 Sep 2006 04:08 GMT
> From my '99 factory service manual...
> Cylinder Bore Diamater (Max)..........102.116mm (4.0203 in.)
> Cylinder Bore our of round (Max) .....0.038mm (0.0015 in.)
>
> Piston Skirt Diameter .........................101.864-101.896mm
> (4.0104-4.0117 in.)

Thanks for info !
Tom Lawrence - 12 Sep 2006 04:42 GMT
> From my '99 factory service manual...
> Cylinder Bore Diamater (Max)..........102.116mm (4.0203 in.)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Sorry, I couldn't find anything on Piston-to-Bore clearance.

That's because they hid it  :)  (bore diameter-piston diameter/2=p-to-b
clearance)
Perses - 12 Sep 2006 12:01 GMT
> > From my '99 factory service manual...
> > Cylinder Bore Diamater (Max)..........102.116mm (4.0203 in.)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> That's because they hid it  :)  (bore diameter-piston diameter/2=p-to-b
> clearance)

You could calculate the piston-to-bore clearance if the service manual
has the bore size with tolerance (instead of the Max Dia.).  Using the
numbers above give an answer that I know isn't correct (.252mm max
p-to-b).

As comparison, the current 6.4L ITEC Powerstroke runs 0.0441-0.0909mm
piston-to-bore clearance.
Tom Lawrence - 12 Sep 2006 14:55 GMT
> You could calculate the piston-to-bore clearance if the service manual
> has the bore size with tolerance (instead of the Max Dia.).  Using the
> numbers above give an answer that I know isn't correct (.252mm max
> p-to-b).

You forgot to divide by two.  That would then be 0.126mm max clearance.
Perses - 12 Sep 2006 17:05 GMT
> You forgot to divide by two.  That would then be 0.126mm max clearance.

Typically, p-to-b clearance is described as the diametric clearance.
For clarification, the Powerstroke clearance specs that I mentioned
above are the diametric clearance.
sqdancerLynn - 13 Sep 2006 07:36 GMT
I thing you are forgetting a few .00
John Kunkel - 12 Sep 2006 20:01 GMT
>> > From my '99 factory service manual...
>> > Cylinder Bore Diamater (Max)..........102.116mm (4.0203 in.)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> numbers above give an answer that I know isn't correct (.252mm max
> p-to-b).

The nominal bore/stroke dimensions for the 5.9L are 102mm X 120mm (4.01574"
X 4.7244").

Subtracting the piston diameter(s) from the nominal bore size gives a piston
clearance tolerance of  .104mm-.136mm
 
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