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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006

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UPDATE 1 -- Replacing rear bearings on a Dodge pickup?

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Ignoramus937 - 23 Sep 2006 15:05 GMT
some updates...

I braced the truck with proper wheel chocks, lifted the rear of the
truck off the ground, and started looking. When I would put it in
drive and get to same speeds that caused trouble, I could hear the
same noise. (a fact that I consider good, since I can trouble shoot
the situation.

I then took off one wheel and one drum. The noise continued.

I then took another wheel and drum. The noise stopped!

The most obvious suspicion, now, is that the brake on the wheel that I
took off last, is somehow not properly working.

Does it make sense?

i
Roy - 23 Sep 2006 15:18 GMT
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You removed the weight from that side, thus most of the load from the
bearing. With the wheel spinning the brakes shouldn't come into play. If you
removed the drum easily, they doubtfully are in contact. Try spinning the
noisy side by hand. You may hear it or feel a bit of play up and down.

Roy
Ignoramus937 - 23 Sep 2006 15:58 GMT
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> removed the drum easily, they doubtfully are in contact. Try spinning the
> noisy side by hand. You may hear it or feel a bit of play up and down.

Roy, I tried something else with that right side.

I put back the drum and wheel. The noise resumed.

Then I took off wheel, kept the drum. (used wheel lug nuts to keep the
drum on). The noise continued identically.

I took off the drum, tried running again. NO noise.

I put the drum back on again (you can see that I like redundancy). The
noise resumed.

The drum does not weigh much, just maybe 20 lbs. The wheel is
obviously a lot heavier, maybe 50 lbs.

I think that it is unlikely that the weight of the drum is the issue
-- though I will try with a wheel on without the drum.

i
Roy - 23 Sep 2006 16:06 GMT
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IIrc this started as a noise and a vibration that was felt under your feet.
It is doubtful that the brake drum is causing this. But never say never.
Switch drums from side to side to satisfy yourself. The shoes aren't showing
abnormal wear are they?

Roy
Ignoramus937 - 23 Sep 2006 16:14 GMT
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> Switch drums from side to side to satisfy yourself. The shoes aren't showing
> abnormal wear are they?

No, they are not showing that.

I tried one last thing. I put on a rear wheel WITHOUT THE DRUM. (also
attached using lugnuts)

The noise, much to my surprise and disappointment, resumed with the
wheel and NO drum.

As a extra info, there is indeed play in both rear bearings, my wild
guess would be 1/2 mm. when i try to move the hub  up or down.
Roy - 23 Sep 2006 17:01 GMT
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> As a extra info, there is indeed play in both rear bearings, my wild
> guess would be 1/2 mm. when i try to move the hub  up or down.

It would seem you have identified your problem.  I believe you have a
manual. Just follow along, not a horrible job. You'll need a machine shop to
r&r the bearings. Check the housing for damage as well as the axle. I'm outa
here for a few hours.The others will help if you run into problems.

Roy
Ignoramus937 - 23 Sep 2006 17:07 GMT
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> r&r the bearings. Check the housing for damage as well as the axle. I'm outa
> here for a few hours.The others will help if you run into problems.

Thanks. I will buy new bearings from a dealer today. I made some
pictures also, and opened up my differential, see my another post.

i
JR North - 23 Sep 2006 15:38 GMT
Run the rear end fully assembled, and listen at the bearing bosses with
a mechanic's stethoscope (a few bucks). Even with no load, a toasty
bearing can be easily identified this way.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

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