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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006

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UPDATE 4, Bad News -- Replacing rear bearings on a Dodge pickup?

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Ignoramus1162 - 24 Sep 2006 21:37 GMT
I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
axle seal.

I also put in a rare earth magnet on the bottom of the diff gear
case. (far from gears)

All of that went smoothly.

Despite that, though, the noise seems to have gotten a tad better
(here my senses could betray me), but it did not go away and did
not become qualitatively better.

Specifically, the whining noise that happens when I let go of gas,
continues.

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Christopher Tidy - 24 Sep 2006 21:45 GMT
> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
> axle seal.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Specifically, the whining noise that happens when I let go of gas,
> continues.

That's frustrating. Did you listen to the whining noise from inside the
truck with the doors shut, to offer a fair comparison to the noise you
first heard?

Some gear trains do whine naturally, especially those which use spur
gears, but I seem to recall that all the gears I saw in your back axle
were helical. The famous (and now withdrawn) Routemaster buses in the
city of London had a really distinct gearbox whine, which continued
pretty much all the time as I recall.

Best wishes,

Chris
Ignoramus5425 - 25 Sep 2006 14:53 GMT
>> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>> axle seal.
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> truck with the doors shut, to offer a fair comparison to the noise you
> first heard?

Yes. If I drive with windows open (I rarely drive with doors open:) I
do not hear anything due to ambient noise.

> Some gear trains do whine naturally, especially those which use spur
> gears, but I seem to recall that all the gears I saw in your back axle
> were helical. The famous (and now withdrawn) Routemaster buses in the
> city of London had a really distinct gearbox whine, which continued
> pretty much all the time as I recall.

Well, sure, but it started recently and seemed to be progressing.

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beekeep - 25 Sep 2006 23:38 GMT
>>> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>>> axle seal.
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>
>i

Doesn't that truck have a radio in it?  If so turn up the volume and the noise
will disapear.

beekeep
Rita Ä Berkowitz - 24 Sep 2006 22:18 GMT
> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
> axle seal.

I'm inclined to agree with Anthony that it's a pinion bearing.  Chrysler
products are notorious for this problem.  That's why anyone that is using
their truck for serious work has a Ford rear installed.  The Dodge rears
aren't up to the task.

Rita
erik litchy - 24 Sep 2006 22:59 GMT
>> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>> axle seal.
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>
> Rita

fords use sterling axles in their trucks i thought?
beekeep - 25 Sep 2006 00:20 GMT
>I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>axle seal.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>i

Was the backlass to spec?  If it ain't it will whine. 1/1000 of an inch makes
all the difference in the world.

beekeep
Jim Stewart - 25 Sep 2006 00:30 GMT
> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
> axle seal.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Specifically, the whining noise that happens when I let go of gas,
> continues.

Forgive me for asking what might be a stupid question,
but did you fill it with grease before the test?
Ignoramus1162 - 25 Sep 2006 00:51 GMT
>> I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>> axle seal.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Forgive me for asking what might be a stupid question,
> but did you fill it with grease before the test?

Do you mean gear oil?

If so, then the answer is yes. I drove 40 miles with it also, after I
made my post today.

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sqdancerLynn - 25 Sep 2006 05:00 GMT
The broken clip was locking tab from the brg pre load adjuster. Did you
check the back lash ?? How much back lash did you have ???
Ignoramus5425 - 25 Sep 2006 17:24 GMT
> The broken clip was locking tab from the brg pre load adjuster. Did you
> check the back lash ?? How much back lash did you have ???

I just won a dial indicator on ebay, I will hopefully have it on
Wednesday. I will find out and let you know what is the backlash.

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Nick Hull - 25 Sep 2006 11:51 GMT
> Specifically, the whining noise that happens when I let go of gas,
> continues.

Anytime I get whining when I let go of the gas I look at the universal
joint bearings.  Jack up the wheels and see if there is ANY play in the
joint.

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F. George McDuffee - 26 Sep 2006 04:58 GMT
>I pulled the axle and installed a new Torrington bearing and a new
>axle seal.
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>
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And there's the traditional fix -- cram the differential full of
bananas and/or sawdust, and trade it in on a Ford....

Unka George
(George McDuffee)

I sincerely believe . . . banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies,
and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding,
is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826), U.S. president.
Letter, 28 May 1816, to political philosopher and Senator John Taylor
Ignoramus5425 - 26 Sep 2006 05:04 GMT
>>Specifically, the whining noise that happens when I let go of gas,
>>continues.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> And there's the traditional fix -- cram the differential full of
> bananas and/or sawdust, and trade it in on a Ford....

I had some rather lousy experiences with a "ford" previously.

I think that for my next truck I will look into Toyota trucks. I hope
that I can get a few years out of this one.

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