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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / September 2006

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Richard Howard - 26 Sep 2006 01:35 GMT
I hope I didnt just make a big mistake. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 quad with 4wd,
100,500 miles. I just today replaced the Goodyear tires 275/60/20 with
Michelin Cross Terrain 305/50/20. Now my worry is that since these tires are
about an inch shorter (lowered my truck an inch) how far off is my speedo
going to be, am I losing fuel economy and will I damage the rear or tranny?
Please let me know something.
Budd Cochran - 26 Sep 2006 02:46 GMT
Locate the tire diameter specs on the manufacturer's site for both tires
then do the math. Always divide the new tire size by the old tire. You may
get a number over 100%, but that means the tire is turning that much faster
than before and is the percentage to DIVIDE the indicated speed by.

For example: if your speedometer indicates 75 mph and your tire is turning
115% of the old tire's rpm, then you actual speed is 65.21 mph. Odometer
mileage will be affected the same way.

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>I hope I didnt just make a big mistake. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 quad with 4wd,
> 100,500 miles. I just today replaced the Goodyear tires 275/60/20 with
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> tranny?
> Please let me know something.

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Richard Howard - 26 Sep 2006 03:07 GMT
can the odometer be adjusted for the new size?

>Locate the tire diameter specs on the manufacturer's site for both tires
>then do the math. Always divide the new tire size by the old tire. You may
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>> tranny?
>> Please let me know something.
Budd Cochran - 26 Sep 2006 04:02 GMT
For that it would be better to talk to one of the other guys like Tom
Lawrence. I think it can, but I'm not sure.

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> can the odometer be adjusted for the new size?
>
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>>> tranny?
>>> Please let me know something.

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Tom Lawrence - 26 Sep 2006 14:40 GMT
> For that it would be better to talk to one of the other guys like Tom
> Lawrence. I think it can, but I'm not sure.

The PCM can be re-programmed, by the dealer, to accomodate the new tire
size.  He'll need to tell the techs the new 'revs per mile' of the tire,
usually available from the tire manufacturer.  Alternately, it can be
calculated based on the advertised size of the tire.  In this case, it works
out to 630 revolutions per mile.
Budd Cochran - 26 Sep 2006 19:30 GMT
Thanks, Tom.

I think you deserve a raise.

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>> For that it would be better to talk to one of the other guys like Tom
>> Lawrence. I think it can, but I'm not sure.
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> calculated based on the advertised size of the tire.  In this case, it
> works out to 630 revolutions per mile.

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mac davis - 26 Sep 2006 16:11 GMT
>can the odometer be adjusted for the new size?
>
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>>> tranny?
>>> Please let me know something.

I went up a tire size on my 99 ram and the speedometer is now about 4% off on
the low side... When the GPS says we're doing 65 mph, the speedo says 62...

The dealer wanted $60 to flash the computer and said that it would "get it
close"... Knowing that we're going 3 or 4 mph faster than indicated is close
enough for me...

I had thought that since we went up to a tire size that was an option in 99,
that they could get it as "close" as stock, but I guess not..
Mac

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.boB - 26 Sep 2006 05:07 GMT
> I hope I didnt just make a big mistake. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 quad with 4wd,
> 100,500 miles. I just today replaced the Goodyear tires 275/60/20 with
> Michelin Cross Terrain 305/50/20. Now my worry is that since these tires are
> about an inch shorter (lowered my truck an inch) how far off is my speedo
> going to be, am I losing fuel economy and will I damage the rear or tranny?
> Please let me know something.

Go here:  http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html

With the new tires, your speedometer will read 3% faster.

Now, that assumes an ideal world where all things are exactly as they are supposed to
be.  Some tire companies vary the diameter from published specs.  And some factory
speedometers are 2-3% off anyway.  Who know, now you could be closer to your exact
speed than you were before.

Go out on the freeway and clock out 10-20 miles with the mile markers.  See how you
your odometer matches up.  In some places you'll find a radar trailer or radar
signpost on the highway, that's usually pretty accurate.  And the new GPS hand helds
are pretty accurate, too.

If you have to change the speedometer, I'm not really sure.  I think you have the
sensor on the differential.  The only way to change it that I know of is to reprogram
the computer with something like a Jet tuner.  And you would want to do that anyway
to make the truck run better.

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Carolina Watercraft Works - 26 Sep 2006 16:08 GMT
Size---Sidewall  Radius---Dia---Circum---Revs/Mile---Difference
275/60-20---6.5in---16.5in---33.0in---103.6in---611---(0.0%)
305/50-20---6.0in---16.0in---32.0in---100.6in---630--(-3.0%)

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>I hope I didnt just make a big mistake. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 quad with 4wd,
> 100,500 miles. I just today replaced the Goodyear tires 275/60/20 with
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> tranny?
> Please let me know something.
Richard Howard - 26 Sep 2006 20:10 GMT
Thanks to all who have submitted, I think I will live with the difference,
Thanks

>I hope I didnt just make a big mistake. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 quad with 4wd,
>100,500 miles. I just today replaced the Goodyear tires 275/60/20 with
>Michelin Cross Terrain 305/50/20. Now my worry is that since these tires are
>about an inch shorter (lowered my truck an inch) how far off is my speedo
>going to be, am I losing fuel economy and will I damage the rear or tranny?
>Please let me know something.
 
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