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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2006

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98 Dodge Dakota auto tranny slips at startup

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Philip Mc - 02 Nov 2006 19:52 GMT
I have a 98 Dodge Dakota with auto w/overdrive tranny  wth 80000 miles.
Flushed by dealership 5k miles ago.

Has started to not pull for a couple of seconds immediately after startup
if it has been sitting for more than a 3 or 4 days without being started.
The engine just revs up and then finally it will start to roll then takes
off normally.

After it finally takes off all is fine no slippage whatsoever.

Could it be the torque converter bleeding off or something similar?

What can I do to fix this problem?

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John Kunkel - 02 Nov 2006 21:24 GMT
>I have a 98 Dodge Dakota with auto w/overdrive tranny  wth 80000 miles.
>Flushed by dealership 5k miles ago.
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> Could it be the torque converter bleeding off or something similar?

Yes, the converter is draining when it sits. The design of the transmission
doesn't allow the converter to refill rapidly in Park so it's a good idea to
make the first start of the day in Neutral.
In Neutral the converter will refill in a matter of seconds.
Stormin Mormon - 02 Nov 2006 22:58 GMT
My 1987 does this. It's an old phone company van, and then was used by
a landlord who ran it hard, and didn't maintain it.

Every time I get near the transmission shop, it's a thousand bucks. So
I just live with it.

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I have a 98 Dodge Dakota with auto w/overdrive tranny  wth 80000
miles.
Flushed by dealership 5k miles ago.

Has started to not pull for a couple of seconds immediately after
startup
if it has been sitting for more than a 3 or 4 days without being
started.
The engine just revs up and then finally it will start to roll then
takes
off normally.

After it finally takes off all is fine no slippage whatsoever.

Could it be the torque converter bleeding off or something similar?

What can I do to fix this problem?

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Jon - 03 Nov 2006 00:15 GMT
I'm wondering if someone can verify whether or not Dakotas have a check
valve in the cooler lines like the Rams do.  If they do, then it stands
to reason that something is holding the valve open.  I'm only pointing
this out because  (1) it's easy to remove, clean, and inspect, and (2)
if debris is the cause, then it stands to reason that the next problem
down the line is a plugged cooler or jammed check valve....leaving you
stranded or worse yet stranded with a fried transmission.  This info
has kept me off the hook twice so far...

FYI:  My torque converter started coming apart internally at 105k,
starting with the OP's symptom, and I regrettably wasn't able to put
together the pieces of the puzzle....but neither were 3 other shops.
Ended up getting sleazed for a transmission.....and they put the bad TC
back in!  What a nightmare....

> My 1987 does this. It's an old phone company van, and then was used by
> a landlord who ran it hard, and didn't maintain it.
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>
> What can I do to fix this problem?
John Kunkel - 03 Nov 2006 20:32 GMT
> I'm wondering if someone can verify whether or not Dakotas have a check
> valve in the cooler lines like the Rams do.  If they do, then it stands
> to reason that something is holding the valve open.

The "converter drainback valve" in the cooler line is a misnomer, it doesn't
actually prevent the converter from draining it prevents the side tank
mounted cooler from draining through the converter.

The actual converter drainback takes place mostly at the front pump bushing.
Other brand converters also drain back but their valve bodies allow the
converter to refill quickly upon startup so it isn't noticed by the driver.

>> I have a 98 Dodge Dakota with auto w/overdrive tranny  wth 80000
>> miles.
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>>
>> What can I do to fix this problem?
bill allemann - 03 Nov 2006 19:44 GMT
when was the tranny's filter last changed?

>I have a 98 Dodge Dakota with auto w/overdrive tranny  wth 80000 miles.
>Flushed by dealership 5k miles ago.
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>
> What can I do to fix this problem?
Philip Mc - 04 Nov 2006 07:23 GMT
I honestly dont know, but we have only put 4K miles on it in the last 2
years since the dealer flushed it.  Think changing the filter may help?

> when was the tranny's filter last changed?
>
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>>
>> What can I do to fix this problem?

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John Kunkel - 05 Nov 2006 18:32 GMT
>I honestly dont know, but we have only put 4K miles on it in the last 2
>years since the dealer flushed it.  Think changing the filter may help?

You're treating this as if it were an operating defect, it isn't, it's just
a defect in design. Start the engine in Neutral and you won't have the
problem.

>> when was the tranny's filter last changed?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>
>>> What can I do to fix this problem?
jbohren - 06 Nov 2006 08:19 GMT
>>I honestly dont know, but we have only put 4K miles on it in the last 2
>>years since the dealer flushed it.  Think changing the filter may help?
>
> You're treating this as if it were an operating defect, it isn't, it's
> just a defect in design. Start the engine in Neutral and you won't have
> the problem.

Is there a TSB?  I've owned a  '91, '97 and now an '03 Dakota 4wd rigs and
never experienced this problem.
 
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