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Stormin Mormon - 18 Nov 2006 19:34 GMT
Another look into my life. As if I'm not busy enough trying to get my
87 dodge van running.
=======================

A couple weeks ago, a firned of mine had a kitten which fell into the
heater duct. She called the fire department, who came out and took the
duct apart. And left it in pieces. I got to put it back together.
Fortuately, I do some heating work, and had all the tools needed.

Well, she called again. Thinks a different cat went downt he duct
(from second floor bathroom, no less). I'm out the door to rescue the
cat. ths time without fail we screw some covers over the duct, to
cover the vent. Or maybe staple some screen or something like that.

======================
Figuring this was another one of the same, I took apart the same duct
I'd put back together the last time. No signs of cat, in the seven
inch round duct. I followed that back to the furnace, there was a
patch piece of metal over where there used to be a humidifier. So, I
started to take that apart. I looked in as best possible, no cat. Went
out to the truck and got my miror, and used that to look into the heat
exchanger, and back through the duct. No cat.

Gwen asked if the cat might be in the heater. Not likely, but I did
pull the cover panel off. No cat by the burners. I pulled the lower
panel, which exposed the circuit board, and the blower fan. Look in
with my mini mag, and surprise!

Cat looking back at me.... and blast, I didn't have my camera with me.
That was a total Kodak moment.

I talked to the cat for a moment, and Gwen came over. She was pleased
the cat was still alive. She reached in, and pulled the cat out. They
went upstairs to get the cat a drink of water, and some to eat.

I put the furnace covers back on, and also the duct back together. I'd
brought some screen wire to staple over the vents. And screwed shut a
part of the vent that was open, in the back. Hope not to do this
again.
Denny - 18 Nov 2006 19:48 GMT
> Another look into my life. As if I'm not busy enough trying to get my
> 87 dodge van running.

<snip>

Moral of the story, Cats do make good targets!!

Denny
bill allemann - 18 Nov 2006 21:30 GMT
don't say that. (even tho true).

the pc crowd will come down on you.

> Moral of the story, Cats do make good targets!!
>
> Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 00:00 GMT
> don't say that. (even tho true).
>
> the pc crowd will come down on you.

But we need something to argue about this weekend. Ole Roy slipped up and
didn't get us a weekend thread this week.

Denny
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 00:15 GMT
>> don't say that. (even tho true).
>>
>> the pc crowd will come down on you.
>
> But we need something to argue about this weekend. Ole Roy slipped up and
> didn't get us a weekend thread this week.

Hey, I figured that we needed a break after all the Budd crap.That and
my friggin shoulder is sore after that BS. Friggin doc says they will give
you a shot of novicane for the surface, then another further in towards the
joint, then we will put in the solution. BS, all three in 1minute. No time
for anything to work. Sure it was numb after but not during. And when it
wore off, WOW! Can't imagine how I'll feel when they really get into it next
month. I want all the perc's.<G>

Roy
> Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 00:29 GMT
>>> don't say that. (even tho true).
>>>
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> it wore off, WOW! Can't imagine how I'll feel when they really get into it
> next month. I want all the perc's.<G>

Poor baby..... Go take a drive with them seat heaters on high and chill
yourself....   <BG>

How about them Buckeyes... That was a helluva game. I think if Michigan
woulda had one more possesion they would have won it.

Denny
theguy@whatever.net - 19 Nov 2006 00:30 GMT
>>>> don't say that. (even tho true).
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Denny

that really was a great game.  lived up to all the hype.  that was
what college football is all about.  would have liked to have seen
michigan take it, but as you said, it was a helluva game.
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 01:26 GMT
>>>>> don't say that. (even tho true).
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> what college football is all about.  would have liked to have seen
> michigan take it, but as you said, it was a helluva game.

What do you think of the chances of a rematch for the championship game??? I
think it would be a good thing no matter what the computer says. The number
one team against a number two team whose only loss was against the number
one. If that makes any sense anyway....

Denny
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 01:27 GMT
Remidns me of my last dentist.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

Hey, I figured that we needed a break after all the Budd crap.That and
my friggin shoulder is sore after that BS. Friggin doc says they will
give
you a shot of novicane for the surface, then another further in
towards the
joint, then we will put in the solution. BS, all three in 1minute. No
time
for anything to work. Sure it was numb after but not during. And when
it
wore off, WOW! Can't imagine how I'll feel when they really get into
it next
month. I want all the perc's.<G>

Roy
theguy@whatever.net - 19 Nov 2006 04:38 GMT
>Remidns me of my last dentist.

yeah, i figure we could fix his shoulder for him.  right?  i mean, how
hard can it be?  and we would do it a lot cheaper than his docs.  

roy, you in for this?
beekeep - 19 Nov 2006 10:34 GMT
>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>
>yeah, i figure we could fix his shoulder for him.  right?  i mean, how
>hard can it be?  and we would do it a lot cheaper than his docs.  
>
>roy, you in for this?

I'll send him a box of bees!

beekeep
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 14:25 GMT
>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I'll send him a box of bees!

Geeeesh, you and those bees! Glad I didn't injure my prick! <VBG>

> beekeep
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 12:23 GMT
Well, with a throttle body spacer, impact wrench, and a couple cheater
bars, we could have Roy's shoulder fixed up in a couple minutes.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:27:29 GMT, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Remidns me of my last dentist.

yeah, i figure we could fix his shoulder for him.  right?  i mean, how
hard can it be?  and we would do it a lot cheaper than his docs.

roy, you in for this?
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 14:26 GMT
> Well, with a throttle body spacer, impact wrench, and a couple cheater
> bars, we could have Roy's shoulder fixed up in a couple minutes.

Gotta love the compassion!
<G>

> Christopher A. Young
>  You can't shout down a troll.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> roy, you in for this?
Stormin Mormon - 20 Nov 2006 15:17 GMT
With a 9 mm wrench and a two foot pipe, we could really break your....
oh, nevermind.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

> Well, with a throttle body spacer, impact wrench, and a couple cheater
> bars, we could have Roy's shoulder fixed up in a couple minutes.

Gotta love the compassion!
<G>
Mike Simmons - 19 Nov 2006 19:42 GMT
> Well, with a throttle body spacer, impact wrench, and a couple cheater
> bars, we could have Roy's shoulder fixed up in a couple minutes.

Yup!  A shoulder is nuffin more than a ball joint... hell, I done lotsa ball
joints...

Bring it on!

Mike

Mebbee we can get Snoman to assist....

> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:27:29 GMT, "Stormin Mormon"
> <cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> roy, you in for this?
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 14:24 GMT
>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>
> yeah, i figure we could fix his shoulder for him.  right?  i mean, how
> hard can it be?  and we would do it a lot cheaper than his docs.

I don't know how hard it is to fix, but it has taken forever to get to the
point of fixing it. I've been out of work since mid September. Went to pt
two and three times a week since then to no avail. Now 3 months after the
injury they decide, well, yup, ya need surgery. WTF didn't they do the scan
in September?? It is so mf'ing frustrating, I can walk, go anywhere but when
I get to wherever I'm going I can't do a friggin thing, the shoulder and arm
are about useless. Heck, I can't go to the range to shoot, So, I clean the
guns a lot. Had to have friends do every repair on the house, Sue cut's the
grass, rakes the yard. Hell, she put the blade on the truck. I've had a
investigator sneaking around to make sure I'm not fakeing a injury, what a
friggin'pia. Friday the doc say's okay "you have a problem in that
shoulder". No sh.t?? What a big friggin' surprise!! Can't schedule you for a
operation until the 19th of Dec. Then you have to do pt  for a couple of
months. Full recovery about 2+1/2 to 3+ months. So long about March-April I
should be able to go back to work. Unreal!

> roy, you in for this?

At this point I'm in for anything.<G>
Bob M - 19 Nov 2006 16:39 GMT
>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> At this point I'm in for anything.<G>

 Welcome to my world Roy. I feel for ya buddy. I really really hope the
surgery helps you. But the 8 that I've had only made things worse. Mine
was an on the job injury too. And what is annoying as hell is how long
it takes to get anything done. Just like you are finding out. Mine was a
career ending injury. I was a 19 year veteran police officer. Forced to
take disability retirement 6 months before normal retirement at 20
years. It sucks royally. I lost my 01 Ram in the process from lost
income. But hey this isn't about me.
 I am pulling for ya. But I'm still trying to warn ya. Don't get your
hopes up too high. I still hurt like hell everyday. If there's one thing
I've learned in all this is that the doctors really don't know crap.

 Bob
theguy@whatever.net - 19 Nov 2006 17:36 GMT
>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>  Bob

disability income in govt service sux.  people think that it is some
sort of a gold mine but the reality is that is isn't.  it hurts.

hope it is working out for you now and everything is going ok.
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 18:17 GMT
>>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> disability income in govt service sux.  people think that it is some
> sort of a gold mine but the reality is that is isn't.  it hurts.

I should be able to get back to work. All I have to do worse case is work
one day in April and retire.

Roy
Bob M - 20 Nov 2006 18:58 GMT
>>>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> Roy

 Good. I really hope it works out for you.

Bob
Roy - 20 Nov 2006 19:41 GMT
>>>>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>
>  Good. I really hope it works out for you.

Thanks, so do I.

Roy
> Bob
Stormin Mormon - 20 Nov 2006 20:38 GMT
Trim Technique:
Use this after typing your reply in the email window.
This works both with web browsers, and most email clients.

1) Use "down" arrow to move cursor to a spot in the email below the
text which is necessary to the email.
2) Press  and hold shift key.
3) Press arrow "down" key to highlight text below the relevant
message.
4) Release arrow down key.
5) Touch "delete" key and highlighted text should disappear.

For folks who like using a mouse, scroll down. Put the cursor in the
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Hold left mouse key down, and slide cursor down. This will  highlight
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As an alternative, put the indicator below the useful text. Pres cntrl
+ shift + end to highlight the trailing text, and then touch delete.
Roy - 20 Nov 2006 22:31 GMT
Just what we need, a new net nanny. Now you (oops see way below)

> Trim Technique:
> Use this after typing your reply in the email window.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> As an alternative, put the indicator below the useful text. Pres cntrl
> + shift + end to highlight the trailing text, and then touch delete.

can bitch 'cause I top post at times as well. Trim this!
Denny - 21 Nov 2006 01:39 GMT
> Just what we need, a new net nanny. Now you (oops see way below)
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> can bitch 'cause I top post at times as well. Trim this!

Didn't get your nap this afternoon??????      <BG>

Denny
Roy - 21 Nov 2006 02:15 GMT
>> Just what we need, a new net nanny. Now you (oops see way below)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Didn't get your nap this afternoon??????      <BG>

Nope too friggin sore. Now you'll be in the sh.t too, 'cause ya didn't trim
before ya replied.<BFG>

Roy
> Denny
Dale Yonz - 21 Nov 2006 07:30 GMT
I like being on the top :)))
dale

On 11/20/06 4:31 PM, in article

> Just what we need, a new net nanny. Now you (oops see way below)
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> can bitch 'cause I top post at times as well. Trim this!
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 18:15 GMT
>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> hopes up too high. I still hurt like hell everyday. If there's one thing
> I've learned in all this is that the doctors really don't know crap.

Damn, I love these encouraging post's. <G>
theguy@whatever.net - 19 Nov 2006 17:34 GMT
>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>are about useless. Heck, I can't go to the range to shoot, So, I clean the
>guns a lot.

just my luck.  i need you as a neighbor.

> Had to have friends do every repair on the house, Sue cut's the
>grass, rakes the yard. Hell, she put the blade on the truck.

i may have to try that <vbg>

> I've had a
>investigator sneaking around to make sure I'm not fakeing a injury, what a
>friggin'pia.

yeah, that would piss me off.  

> Friday the doc say's okay "you have a problem in that
>shoulder". No sh.t?? What a big friggin' surprise!! Can't schedule you for a
>operation until the 19th of Dec. Then you have to do pt  for a couple of
>months. Full recovery about 2+1/2 to 3+ months. So long about March-April I
>should be able to go back to work. Unreal!

those nagging type of injuries are the worst.  my left shoulder flares
up.  hurts like heck.  last year it flared up and my whole shoulder
ended up locked up.  could hardly move it and the pain went on for
months.  they tried pt.  had three shots in the joint, which was the
max they would put in.  they decided that they could try surgery, in
my case it is a matter of shaving the end of the bones in the joint
off to make more room in the joint.  the dr. was not at all optimistic
but i found another guy who had it done and it worked for him.  but in
the end, i decided out of the surgery and i just streteched it out
every day for a couple of months.  its better now but i worry about
the next time it does it.

>> roy, you in for this?
>
>At this point I'm in for anything.<G>

not sure which grin is on your face but i think i may have to refer
you to your wife for that one.
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 18:23 GMT
>>>>Remidns me of my last dentist.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> i may have to try that <vbg>

I had to beg. Actually Sue is pretty cool with stuff like that. Isn't timid
about trying anything as longs as it is explained to her. Although today the
leaf blower stopped and she want's to know what is wrong. Yup, out of gas.

>> I've had a
>>investigator sneaking around to make sure I'm not fakeing a injury, what a
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> not sure which grin is on your face but i think i may have to refer
> you to your wife for that one.

It has been a rough week here, so I figure any smile is an improvement.
Here's one
<GBHMFG>
Earl Groce - 20 Nov 2006 00:44 GMT
I replaced the plenum gasket today....  took me 6 hours more or less.

NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS, would I have considered this to be the
reason my engine was knocking and using excessive oil..

Im gonna be curious now to see where my oil usage goes.. Its gotta
improve if I was DRINKING enough oil to make the engine knock.

Again, THANKS..

earl
Tom Lawrence - 20 Nov 2006 13:50 GMT
> NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS, would I have considered this to be the
> reason my engine was knocking and using excessive oil..

Was the intake nice and oily inside?  Did you clean it out?

You should follow up with a couple applications of Mopar combustion chamber
cleaner, to get rid of the oil deposits in the combustion chambers.  Then,
once that's done, put in a new set of plugs (the cc cleaning process tends
to foul the plugs).
Earl Groce - 21 Nov 2006 01:35 GMT
The inside of the Intake was A HUGE MESS.. I cleaned it a lot... not
perfect, but its 95% cleaner than it was.

Earl

>> NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS, would I have considered this to be the
>> reason my engine was knocking and using excessive oil..
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>once that's done, put in a new set of plugs (the cc cleaning process tends
>to foul the plugs).
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 01:27 GMT
Listen, you miserable idiot. We have plenty to argue about. Heck, I
wouldn't argue with you if you were the last wrench puller on Earth. I
mean, that was totally pathetic. Why don't you find something useful
to do, instead of looking for an argument? Why, I'd bet guys like you
go into old ladies houses and put cats in the furnaces.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

> don't say that. (even tho true).
>
> the pc crowd will come down on you.

But we need something to argue about this weekend. Ole Roy slipped up
and
didn't get us a weekend thread this week.

Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 01:37 GMT
> Listen, you miserable idiot.

I'm not a miserable idiot. I'm a very happy, cheerful and annoying idiot.
Get it right next time bub.

Denny
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 03:23 GMT
>> Listen, you miserable idiot.
>
> I'm not a miserable idiot. I'm a very happy, wide assed,cheerful and
> annoying idiot when I >have the machine.

Gotta agree!!
<BFG>

Roy

> Get it right next time bub.
>
> Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 12:01 GMT
>>> Listen, you miserable idiot.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Gotta agree!!
> <BFG>

Talk about creative editing....

I do gotta ask tho. When you're driving the Magnum with the seat heaters on,
how long can you keep them on high???

Denny
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 14:34 GMT
>>>> Listen, you miserable idiot.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Talk about creative editing....

Ya, but I screwed it up.

> I do gotta ask tho. When you're driving the Magnum with the seat heaters
> on, how long can you keep them on high???

Ah, my furry faced wide ride buddy, ya have to pay attention.<G> The Magnum
does not have heated seats. Hell, ya ran the numbers!<VBG> Actually it is
the srt with the heated seats. Not been cold enough for them. To be honest I
haven't really looked at the switch's for them. I know they are on either
side of the ashtray though.

I'll get back to ya on them later today.

Roy

> Denny
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 12:23 GMT
I couldn't get it right if I had a steering wheel that only goes in
one direction, and a campaign bus full of Republicans. As a matter of
fact, I'm so pathetic, I can't even point an argument in the right
directions. Do you have any idea what an idiot I am!

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

> Listen, you miserable idiot.

I'm not a miserable idiot. I'm a very happy, cheerful and annoying
idiot.
Get it right next time bub.

Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 13:04 GMT
>I couldn't get it right if I had a steering wheel that only goes in
> one direction, and a campaign bus full of Republicans. As a matter of
> fact, I'm so pathetic, I can't even point an argument in the right
> directions. Do you have any idea what an idiot I am!

The 'right' kind????    or would that be the 'left' kind??

Denny
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 01:22 GMT
Yeah, but you have to get someone else to throw em in the air when you
yell PULL!!!!!

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

> Another look into my life. As if I'm not busy enough trying to get my
> 87 dodge van running.

<snip>

Moral of the story, Cats do make good targets!!

Denny
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 01:30 GMT
> Yeah, but you have to get someone else to throw em in the air when you
> yell PULL!!!!!

Real marksmen only need one bullet, not a whole handfull.....  <G>

Denny
Roy - 19 Nov 2006 03:11 GMT
>> Yeah, but you have to get someone else to throw em in the air when you
>> yell PULL!!!!!
>>
> Real marksmen only need one bullet, not a whole handfull.....  <G>

Is your daughter teaching you???
<VBG>

Roy
> Denny
Dale Yonz - 21 Nov 2006 07:09 GMT
On 11/18/06 7:30 PM, in article
MsO7h.33144$Cq3.23340@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com, "Denny" <wddodge@woh.rr.com>
wrote:

>> Yeah, but you have to get someone else to throw em in the air when you
>> yell PULL!!!!!
>>
> Real marksmen only need one bullet, not a whole handfull.....  <G>
>
> Denny

How do you make a  cat go woof

Pour some gas on it and light it
DonStaples - 19 Nov 2006 06:01 GMT
I'm not the least bit pc, but I do love my cat and I very much enjoy the
opportunity to shoot back at idiots who shoot at my cat.........

>> Another look into my life. As if I'm not busy enough trying to get my
>> 87 dodge van running.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Denny
Stormin Mormon - 19 Nov 2006 12:29 GMT
You need to attend sensetivity training class. Shooting? That's so,
uh, so neandrethal. Now look what you've done, I've got to go call my
therapist, and take a sedative. Brute!

Oh, wait. No one will believe me, since I'm the one who suggested they
make skeet targets. Nevermind.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

I'm not the least bit pc, but I do love my cat and I very much enjoy
the
opportunity to shoot back at idiots who shoot at my cat.........
Craig C. - 21 Nov 2006 19:49 GMT
> Moral of the story, Cats do make good targets!!

I love cats.  They're delicious.  Especially flame-broiled.

Craig C.
Stormin Mormon - 22 Nov 2006 13:58 GMT
Done medium, so the pink is out of the meat. Tiny sprinkle of salt,
and some A- 1 steak sauce. Served with buttered toast, and mashed
potatos.

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

Denny wrote:
> Moral of the story, Cats do make good targets!!

I love cats.  They're delicious.  Especially flame-broiled.

Craig C.
Joe Brophy - 20 Nov 2006 00:55 GMT
Cats are supposed to be hard to train, however you might be able to train 'Gwen'
to keep the grates on the heater ducts.  It might be a challenge as well
considering this was the second time for the cat in the duct act.  Could always
get dogs and get rid of the cats.

Joe

>Another look into my life. As if I'm not busy enough trying to get my
>87 dodge van running.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>part of the vent that was open, in the back. Hope not to do this
>again.
 
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