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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2006

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Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge CTD

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Jerry Osage - 24 Nov 2006 22:59 GMT
Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge RAM 3500 CTD Automatic transmission.

A Tech/Mechanic at the delivering dealer suggested an Edge EZ Power
Module for a small increase in mileage and 3 levels of power boost.  I
was told by the tech that while towing level 1 boot was OK, level 2 OK
for short times, and to never use level 3 while towing and an EGT
gauge would not be  necessary. Just use tow haul mode and monitor the
water temp. and use common sense and the engine and transmission would
be OK .

He said that the EZ module is easy to remove and will leave no traces
physical or digital, for Dodge to find and worry about ,and perhaps
effect the warranty.  

Does anyone know if this is true?  When I went to an Edge Dealer I was
told that traces would be left in the computer and what I really
wanted was the Edge 'Juice with Attitude' and a new Air intake/filter
assembly.

Not true, if I want anything at all, it is just the EZ Module with 2
piggyback plugs and a switch.  25/50, 45/75, and 65/150 hp/ft-lb of
power boost.

What I really want is to know is this:  Is the Edge EZ module worth
the $390 for towing a 5th wheel up near the weight limit in the
mountains of the west?  And can it be removed and leave no traces?
And, if so, do I need a pyro/EGT gauge to be safe in using the EZ
Module if I follow the tech's advice?  

Thanks,
Jerry O
Chris Thompson - 24 Nov 2006 23:33 GMT
I have an EGT gauge on mine, currently in stock trim and I would highly
recommend you do the same. keeping an eye on the exhaust temps is always a
good idea. have you tried to tow with your truck? I'm betting you will be
surprised at the power. 325/610 is nothing to sneeze at and should move a
fully loaded truck extremely well.

I would also recommend that you tow with the truck a few times, with the
loads your talking about and decide if you really want to upgrade power
levels. sounds to me like you have reservations already.

as far as if the EZ would leave traces in the ECM I don't know. I haven't
ever used the EZ or had any experience with it.

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05 CTD
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Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs.

> Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge RAM 3500 CTD Automatic transmission.
>
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> Thanks,
> Jerry O
Jerry Osage - 25 Nov 2006 01:30 GMT
>I have an EGT gauge on mine, currently in stock trim and I would highly
>recommend you do the same. keeping an eye on the exhaust temps is always a
>good idea. have you tried to tow with your truck? I'm betting you will be
>surprised at the power. 325/610 is nothing to sneeze at and should move a
>fully loaded truck extremely well.

I have towed an 8000# trailer about 2500 miles with it and it had
power to spare.  The truck has a dealer installed exhaust brake and it
works very well.  I pulled the trailer from Oklahoma to northern
California and the exhaust brake maintained speed on all the
downgrades, except in a very few instances of traffic or very tight
curves.  I like that, and the fact that it is not very noisy.

>I would also recommend that you tow with the truck a few times, with the
>loads your talking about and decide if you really want to upgrade power
>levels. sounds to me like you have reservations already.

Yes, I like the idea of remaining stock.  That makes everything so
much easier.  I think I have all the truck I need, as is.

And you are right, until I tow the new Fiver for a while, I won't know
for sure.  

>as far as if the EZ would leave traces in the ECM I don't know. I haven't
>ever used the EZ or had any experience with it.

I think all I need right now is an EGT and a Transmission temp gauge.
And go from there.

Thanks for the input.

Jerry O.
Roy - 24 Nov 2006 23:38 GMT
> Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge RAM 3500 CTD Automatic transmission.
>
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> water temp. and use common sense and the engine and transmission would
> be OK .
You need a EGT gauge and a trans temp gauge.

> He said that the EZ module is easy to remove and will leave no traces
> physical or digital, for Dodge to find and worry about ,and perhaps
> effect the warranty.

Wrong, they leave traces

> Does anyone know if this is true?  When I went to an Edge Dealer I was
> told that traces would be left in the computer and what I really
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> And, if so, do I need a pyro/EGT gauge to be safe in using the EZ
> Module if I follow the tech's advice?
See above.

How many times are you doing this trip? Hell, stock it shuld be able to haul
it.

Roy

> Thanks,
> Jerry O
Jerry Osage - 25 Nov 2006 01:31 GMT
>> Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge RAM 3500 CTD Automatic transmission.
>>
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>.
>You need a EGT gauge and a trans temp gauge.

Thanks, Roy, I'm taking your advice.  Just the two gauges.

<SNIP>

>See above.
>
>How many times are you doing this trip?

Roy the plan is to wander around the Northern states, west of the
Mississippi in the summers, with the majority of time in the mountain
states.  And spend winters in southern Arizona or around Mc Allen,
Texas.
>Hell, stock it shuld be able to haul it.

I think you are right, it towed an 8000 lb trailer from Oklahoma to
California like it was nothing.

Jerry O
Steve Lusardi - 25 Nov 2006 05:30 GMT
Jerry,
The Dodge CTD is fantastic all on its own, but with a properly installed
performance kit, it's even better. Whether you keep it stock or not, you
need guages. They are very informative, but you need 4 guages .
Fuel feed pressure, this will alert you to fuel filter issues and prevent
you from destoying the high pressure pump due to primary fuel feed
failures(Very expensive)
Turbo boost. Important when driving for economy.
EGT, This will alert you to air filter issues , induction air leaks, turbo
failures and damaging engine loads.
Gear box oil temp. This monitors the weakest link in the vehicle and can
prevent you from destoying the transmission and will alow you limp home when
failure occurs with minimal damage.

Of course, if you feel lucky, don't bother. Otherwise, guages are cheap
insurance against stupid.
Steve

> Edge EZ for 2006 Dodge RAM 3500 CTD Automatic transmission.
>
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> Thanks,
> Jerry O
Tom Lawrence - 25 Nov 2006 06:56 GMT
> What I really want is to know is this:  Is the Edge EZ module worth
> the $390 for towing a 5th wheel up near the weight limit in the
> mountains of the west?  And can it be removed and leave no traces?
> And, if so, do I need a pyro/EGT gauge to be safe in using the EZ
> Module if I follow the tech's advice?

As others have said, gauges are always a good idea, even on an stock truck.
It's always good to know what's going on with the engine.

That said - you need to first decide if you want a reliable vehicle that you
can count on to tow what you want, where you want, and any problems will be
taken care of by the dealer...  OR...  if you're willing to assume some of
the responsibility for things going wrong in order to achieve more power out
of the engine.  Sure, it's nice to be able to add more power, and still
think that the dealer will fix it if something goes wrong.  The reality is,
DaimlerChrysler (as well as the other of the Big Three) are VERY aware of
power-adders, and will (depending on the particular dealer's mood, whether
or not a zone rep happens to be around that day, and the position of planets
and stars) look long and hard at any warranty-based repair work revolving
around the engine, drivetrain, and ESPECIALLY the fuel system.  Nothing's
written in stone...  one guy could have torched his injectors by running a
pressure box full-tilt, squeezeing 30kpsi out of his fuel rail. and get DC
to give him six new injectors - while another guy could have a
defective-from-the-factory injector that starts leaking fuel, but because
the dealer sees evidence of fuel pressure tampering, hands the owner a bill
for $8,000 to replace/repair the torched piston due to over-fueling.  I've
seen both happen before.

Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying tweaking your engine is a bad
thing.  I'm just saying that if you're going to go down that path, go into
it with your eyes open, and knowing that you're assuming the added risk of
footing the bill for something breaking.

And to answer the question directly:  towing up near the weight limit with a
modified engine, gauges are an ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT.
 
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