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Recipient - 05 Dec 2006 19:42 GMT
Think about it. No one likes to get unjust traffic tickets. Red light and
speed cameras are popping up all over the world at an alarming rate.
Motorists have paid in excess of $1 Billion in fines to date. The public is
in desperate need for an effective product that can provide relief.
PhotoBlocker Spray helps motorists avoid traffic camera tickets legally.
http://www.rhys.ca
bill allemann - 05 Dec 2006 21:13 GMT
but you forget that there is a 100% effective accessory already included
with every automobile.

the brake pedal.

> Think about it. No one likes to get unjust traffic tickets. Red light and
> speed cameras are popping up all over the world at an alarming rate.
> Motorists have paid in excess of $1 Billion in fines to date. The public
> is in desperate need for an effective product that can provide relief.
> PhotoBlocker Spray helps motorists avoid traffic camera tickets legally.
> http://www.rhys.ca
Recipient - 05 Dec 2006 22:35 GMT
Yes, you are right. That's my experience too, having been driving for over
30 years now. ;-) But there are those who haven't learned that lesson or
don't want to. You have to admit that.

> but you forget that there is a 100% effective accessory already included
> with every automobile.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> PhotoBlocker Spray helps motorists avoid traffic camera tickets legally.
>> http://www.rhys.ca
miles - 06 Dec 2006 00:14 GMT
> Yes, you are right. That's my experience too, having been driving for over
> 30 years now. ;-) But there are those who haven't learned that lesson or
> don't want to. You have to admit that.

To paraphrase James Packard, "I build them to go, not stop".
Nosey - 06 Dec 2006 00:40 GMT
"How To Beat Traffic Cameras Legally" - NOT!
You show a graphic of it being sprayed on Maryland and California tags,
which implies that it is legal in the US. You might want to do some research
before you get yourself locked up. Or start selling brake pedals instead.
I'd bet they are legal everywhere.

Georgia code clearly addresses the use of your product. I suspect other
states have similar laws.
http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/GaCode/data/40-2-6.1.htm
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Roy - 06 Dec 2006 00:56 GMT
> "How To Beat Traffic Cameras Legally" - NOT!
> You show a graphic of it being sprayed on Maryland and California tags,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> states have similar laws.
> http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/GaCode/data/40-2-6.1.htm

I think that the product is BS. But the law you reference I believe has to
do with the dark plastic plate covers. The body part is probably the boot
over the plate on the bike.
If your gonna play you have to expect to pay.

Roy
> Ken
miles - 06 Dec 2006 01:44 GMT
> I think that the product is BS. But the law you reference I believe has to
> do with the dark plastic plate covers. The body part is probably the boot
> over the plate on the bike.

In Arizona the law simply states that no device covering the license can
be used.  It has exceptions for when the license is legally displayed
through the back window.

Photo radar tickets in Arizona can be beaten...sorta.  The state has 120
days to serve a notice.  If you ignore the letter mailed and you can
avoid the server tracking you down then the ticket will be dismissed.
Trent - 07 Dec 2006 05:44 GMT
>> I think that the product is BS. But the law you reference I believe has
>> to do with the dark plastic plate covers. The body part is probably the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> days to serve a notice.  If you ignore the letter mailed and you can avoid
> the server tracking you down then the ticket will be dismissed.

How about this? In California there is a law suit going on. Person claims
the company issuing tickets are not the police and thus not legally able to
issue photo tickets.
Trent - 07 Dec 2006 05:43 GMT
>> "How To Beat Traffic Cameras Legally" - NOT!
>> You show a graphic of it being sprayed on Maryland and California tags,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> over the plate on the bike.
> If your gonna play you have to expect to pay.

It does work, but the company only needs to reverse the negative to see the
numbers on the plate.

> Roy
>> Ken
Stormin Mormon - 07 Dec 2006 13:43 GMT
As the son of a photographer, I'm not sure you're making any sense.
May we have a little more detail, please?

Supposing the license plate is black letters on white plate. And so
the negative is white numbers on a black plate. Would that be any
harder to read?

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It does work, but the company only needs to reverse the negative to
see the
numbers on the plate.
Trent - 07 Dec 2006 17:54 GMT
> As the son of a photographer, I'm not sure you're making any sense.
> May we have a little more detail, please?
>
> Supposing the license plate is black letters on white plate. And so
> the negative is white numbers on a black plate. Would that be any
> harder to read?

Apparantly if you print the image of a b/w negative as it is you will be
able to see the numbers.
The over exposed white then becomes black and the black letters on the plate
become white thus able to see the plate number.

However I am reading that a number of these cameras use IR instead of
visible light, therefore no overexposure flash.
Alo they have available a plate cover, which I think is the best. It makes
the plate numbers visible only if you are looking directly straight at the
plate from behind.
It was featured on CSI: Miami

On the other hand some states have police cars hidden on the side of the
road taking pictures of speeders from behine. Maybe use both the spray and
plate cover?

> It does work, but the company only needs to reverse the negative to
> see the
> numbers on the plate.
Stormin Mormon - 07 Dec 2006 19:05 GMT
> As the son of a photographer, I'm not sure you're making any sense.
> May we have a little more detail, please?
>
> Supposing the license plate is black letters on white plate. And so
> the negative is white numbers on a black plate. Would that be any
> harder to read?

Apparantly if you print the image of a b/w negative as it is you will
be
able to see the numbers.
The over exposed white then becomes black and the black letters on the
plate
become white thus able to see the plate number.
CY: I've worked with a lot of black and white negatives. Sometimes you
need a magnifier, but you can make out numbers either in negative or
positive.

However I am reading that a number of these cameras use IR instead of
visible light, therefore no overexposure flash.
CY: IR would be OK daytime, as dark letters or background absorbs more
solar heat. I'm not sure if it would help any during th enight.

Alo they have available a plate cover, which I think is the best. It
makes
the plate numbers visible only if you are looking directly straight at
the
plate from behind.
It was featured on CSI: Miami
CY: That coudl be useful.

On the other hand some states have police cars hidden on the side of
the
road taking pictures of speeders from behine. Maybe use both the spray
and
plate cover?
CY: Back to the point, you may need a magnifying lens, but you don't
need to print a negative to be able to read numbers.

> It does work, but the company only needs to reverse the negative to
> see the
> numbers on the plate.
Trent - 07 Dec 2006 23:35 GMT
>> As the son of a photographer, I'm not sure you're making any sense.
>> May we have a little more detail, please?
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> CY: Back to the point, you may need a magnifying lens, but you don't
> need to print a negative to be able to read numbers.

If the image is over exposed enough then  you cannot.
The problem they have is that I am sure they are using CCD camera. So makes
me think they are mass producing tickets since I heard revenues are in the
millions.

Makes it time consuming to go through all those few where the plate is not
seen

>> It does work, but the company only needs to reverse the negative to
>> see the
>> numbers on the plate.
beekeep - 06 Dec 2006 02:34 GMT
>Think about it. No one likes to get unjust traffic tickets. Red light and
>speed cameras are popping up all over the world at an alarming rate.
>Motorists have paid in excess of $1 Billion in fines to date. The public is
>in desperate need for an effective product that can provide relief.
>PhotoBlocker Spray helps motorists avoid traffic camera tickets legally.
>http://www.rhys.ca

Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get the
aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those types of
drivers on the road.  If you can't see those cameras you don't belong on the
road either.

beekeep
miles - 06 Dec 2006 03:26 GMT
> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get the
> aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those types of
> drivers on the road.  If you can't see those cameras you don't belong on the
> road either.

I question the accuracy of some of the cameras here.  In the news lately
is about a guy who got a ticket for doing 147mph in a Hyundai Sonata.
I'd like to know if a Hyundai can actually achieve that speed.
Furthermore, this was a rental car so I doubt the speed limiter was
disabled (Federal limit is below 147mph isn't it?).
FenderAxe - 06 Dec 2006 06:21 GMT
>> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get
>> the aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Furthermore, this was a rental car so I doubt the speed limiter was
> disabled (Federal limit is below 147mph isn't it?).

Nope. The Sonata's top speed is about 25 mph.

<g>

FA
kickbo@gmail.com - 06 Dec 2006 18:13 GMT
Anyone hear of the story in Mass where some guy blew a toll on the Pike
and they sent him a photo of the car and a ticket for $50 - so he sent
back a photo of $50.  STory goes they then sent him a picture of
handcuffs!!  Dont' know if that's a true one or just a feel good urban
legend though!

> >> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get
> >> the aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those
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>
> FA
Tom Matigan - 06 Dec 2006 11:18 GMT
> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get the
> aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those types
> of drivers on the road.  If you can't see those cameras you don't belong
> on the road either.
>
> beekeep

Yes....unjust traffic tickets.

Documentation abounds about government games to create a revenue stream.
There's a million little tricks....like setting up a hidden radar gun 1
foot behind a speed limit sign as you're coming into a small small town.
(I've personally seen that one).

With these red light cameras, some of the cities even shortened the yellow
light duration to gain more violaters - people caight in the intersection
when the light turned.  In southern California, one city has given a
contract to a large corporation to operate and maintain the red light
cameras.  The corporation gets a cut of every ticket.  Does that sound
like a would where you want to raise your children?

Government ain't what it used to be -- if you defend their criminal
conduct, what does that make you?
Trent - 07 Dec 2006 05:47 GMT
>> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get the
>> aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those types
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> cameras.  The corporation gets a cut of every ticket.  Does that sound
> like a would where you want to raise your children?

That is why there is a law suite going on. Plantif says the company issuing
tickets are not the police and thus not legally able to enforce the law.

> Government ain't what it used to be -- if you defend their criminal
> conduct, what does that make you?
RM v2.0 - 08 Dec 2006 14:54 GMT
> With these red light cameras, some of the cities even shortened the yellow
> light duration to gain more violaters - people caight in the intersection
> when the light turned.  In southern California, one city has given a
> contract to a large corporation to operate and maintain the red light
> cameras.  The corporation gets a cut of every ticket.  Does that sound
> like a would where you want to raise your children?

If you enter on Yellow then you are ok (in texas anyway). Shortening the
cycle would only get the ones who try to speed up and beat the yellow.
kickbo@gmail.com - 08 Dec 2006 15:29 GMT
Speaking of ridiculous tickets....

My boyfriend just got a ticket for "failure to secure DC plates" - he
is a resident of Virginia, but spends most nights with me in DC.
Meters go off from 10 - 7 and he will park there during those times, or
in the visitor parking areas in Georgetown.  They gave him a $100
ticket at 3am for failure to secure DC plates.  I'm sure they think
he's a resident or something - but I told him to fight that one, you
know some cop was waiting like 2 months scouting out the scene to write
that bad boy!

> > With these red light cameras, some of the cities even shortened the yellow
> > light duration to gain more violaters - people caight in the intersection
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > like a would where you want to raise your children?If you enter on Yellow then you are ok (in texas anyway). Shortening the
> cycle would only get the ones who try to speed up and beat the yellow.
beekeep - 08 Dec 2006 22:18 GMT
>> Unjust traffic tickets?  Running red lights kill people.  I say get the
>> aggressive drivers and yank their licences.  We don't need those types
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Government ain't what it used to be -- if you defend their criminal
>conduct, what does that make you?

On dual highways here in Maryland they paint the dotted line solid at the light.
The length of that solid line is such that if you are doing the speed limit in
that zone and the light turns yellow you have time to get through the
intersection before the light turns red.

beekeep
 
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