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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / December 2006Dodge GPS Question
Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the GPS display in front. I know the Garmin street pilot plays video and wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge thanks > Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for > passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the > GPS display in front. I know the Garmin street pilot plays video and > wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge > thanks You may have to do some rewiring. Many states now forbid "video" displays in the front of vehicles as to not distract the driver. Though this is not "impossible" to do, it is extremely difficult. There is no single video in/out wire on either of the units. So finding the correct wire(s) will be difficult. Once found, running them in easy, however, you would have to make sure that the wire you are using as an input to the front unit will allow for what you are doing with out sending the signal backwards to the nav system. I can tell you with no hesitation, that when I did this stuff for a living, we would charge a fortune in labor to do something like this and there was absolutely no guarantee that we could in fact make it work. I honestly would not recommend it. As to state laws, it is not "forbidden" to have the video in front, it is however illegal in most states to have the video in a position that is directly viewable to the driver when said video is on. Check your laws first. >> Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for >> passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You may have to do some rewiring. Many states now forbid "video" displays > in the front of vehicles as to not distract the driver. As a follow up to my other post, something that you want to look at BEFORE you start cutting wires and such. See if the unit up front has an aux or secondary video input. If it does that is where you want to run the video from the rear into. On the rear unit will should have 2 or 3 wires that are your video source, One will be a "ground" and one a "positive" signal, if you can locate and isolate these, you can use one half of an RCA cable to run the signal rear to front. Hope all this helps and answers your question > Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for > passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the > GPS display in front. I know the Garmin street pilot plays video and > wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge > thanks Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it.  Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi ----Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) ----Mack Daddy Trailers ----Ice Angels > Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for > passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the > GPS display in front. I know the Garmin street pilot plays video and > wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge > thanks > Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is > illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it. > > -- Them damn liberals always making laws to prevent me from killing myself, my fambly or someone else. JAM > > Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is > > illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Them damn liberals always making laws to prevent me from killing > myself, my fambly or someone else. Those Bastards!!!! SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to watch it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any time they wanted too. > Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is > illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge >> thanks > It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to > watch it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any > time they wanted too. Kinda depends on what state you may be in, I would say. As CA plainly states; 27602. (a) A person may not drive a motor vehicle if a television receiver, a video monitor, or a television or video screen, or any other, similar means of visually displaying a television broadcast or video signal that produces entertainment or business applications, is operating and is located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driver's seat, or is operating and visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle. It goes on to except a few items and you can see it at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27602.htm FMB (North Mexico) Kind of getting off track, I would like to know how to do it or where to get wiring diagrams if possible. I know it may not be legal to use when your moving...thanks for any input >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to >> watch it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >FMB >(North Mexico) You are not going to find the wiring diagrams, unless you can get your hands on a factory manual. This is something that you will have to figure out on your own, using a digital multi meter. As well as a little cutting and splicing of wires. Like I said in my original post, this is not something I would recommend, I would call some of your local car audio shops, see if any of them have done it, successfully and see if they will provide you the info (if they documented it.) On average, something like this would take us at the shop I worked at hours to find the wire combinations before we could go from there. I wish you the best of luck, but as I don't have your vehicle in front of me, I can't provide anymore then I have. > Kind of getting off track, I would like to know how to do it or where > to get wiring diagrams if possible. I know it may not be legal to use [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>FMB >>(North Mexico) I'd thinkit'd be a hard to find item as well. I'm sure an attorney representing someone would include any person or entity that supplies such a diagram as a defendant in case that were the indicated cause of an accident. I understand what you are trying to do....just might be something no one wants to put their neck on the block for. Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi ----Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) ----Mack Daddy Trailers ----Ice Angels > You are not going to find the wiring diagrams, unless you can get your > hands on a factory manual. This is something that you will have to figure [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>FMB >>>(North Mexico) > I'd thinkit'd be a hard to find item as well. I'm sure an attorney > representing someone would include any person or entity that > supplies such a diagram as a defendant in case that were the > indicated cause of an accident. I understand what you are trying > to do....just might be something no one wants to put their neck > on the block for. I got the service manual for my Dodge Dakota Lemon for $140 from DC. It's not top secret or hard to get. JAM Referring to giving specific instructions on how to accomplish th etask he inquired about. Of course there is a way and it can be done. And I doubt the service manual will tell you "how" to do it. Signature------------------------------------------ Laszlo Almasi ----Cool Toys (formerly Carolina Watercraft Works) ----Mack Daddy Trailers ----Ice Angels >> I'd thinkit'd be a hard to find item as well. I'm sure an attorney >> representing someone would include any person or entity that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > JAM I know for a fact that it can be done as we did this on more occasion then I cared to when I did this line of work. However, as I have stated, it is not easy, it is time consuming and there is no way to know for sure if it will work as desired (or at all) until you do it. > Referring to giving specific instructions on how to accomplish > th etask he inquired about. Of course there is a way and it can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> JAM >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to >> watch it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > FMB > (North Mexico) Ok, but read the last part of the last sentence of what you posted, "or is operating and visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle." That is exactly what I have said. Anyway, as it has already been stated, by you, me and others, the OP does need to check the laws in his/her state. >>> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to >>> watch it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Anyway, as it has already been stated, by you, me and others, the OP does > need to check the laws in his/her state. The way I read it, several requirements need to be met to be in violation of 27602. 1. Person must be driving a motor vehicle, and 2. TV or video monitor (long description above) is operating, and 3a. located at any point forward of the back of the drivers seat, or 3b. is operating and visible to the driver while driving the motor vehicle. The portion "or is operation nad visible to the driver while driving" relates to positioning the video monitor behind the front seat such that the driver can view it through his rear view mirror. If the monitor is meeting 1, 2 and 3a or is meeting 1, 2 and 3b, you are in violation. IMHO, if a monitor is permanently mounted between the driver and the front seat passenger in such a way that it was impossible for the driver to view the 'entertainment', and the passenger was watching a program, and the driver was driving during the day (no nighttime glare), the cop would be an a.s (or responding to one) to issue a ticket. FMB (North Mexico) > It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to watch > it. Slight difference, but as we know a cop could be an a.s any time they > wanted too. The a.s is the guy watching video while driving. Not the cop that slaps him down. JAM > > Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is > > illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge > >> thanks >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to >> watch [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > JAM What makes him/her anymore of an a.s then the a.s talking on the cell phone? Yet it still happens and is illegal in some states also. >> > Um...check your local laws. I'm under the impression that it is >> > illegal to have video in front where the driver can see it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge >> >> thanks > >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to > >> watch [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What makes him/her anymore of an a.s then the a.s talking on the cell phone? > Yet it still happens and is illegal in some states also. Because when you are talking on a cell phone at least your eyes are still on the road (unless you are dialing it) and those doing it in states where it is illegal should also be pulled over and ticketed. I have to use my cell many times while on the road but at least I'm smart enough to use a blue tooth adapter so I don't have to pick up the phone for anything and then it is no more distracting then talking to a passenger in the vehicle. What really pisses me off are those a.sholes that actually read the paper while on the road and driving. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving >> >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to >> >> watch [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > really pisses me off are those a.sholes that actually read the paper while > on the road and driving. I agree with you on the reading the paper or a book or using a palm to take notes, what ever. However, I will say that you are an exception to cell phone use. (At least here) most people do not have BT and have the phone glues to the ear, with a coffee or what ever in the other hand. Also, not everyone has the ability to "multi-task" ever see the hand talked driving? If the hands are moving about who's driving. I'm sorry, but I think they should enforce nationwide, what they (try to) do here, ticket you if you are talking, with a heavy fine. You are suppose to pull off the road here if you are on the phone. > >> It's not illegal to have it up front, it is illegal for the driver to > >> watch [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What makes him/her anymore of an a.s then the a.s talking on the cell phone? > Yet it still happens and is illegal in some states also. Nothing. I wish all states would outlaw talking on the phone while driving. JAM > Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for > passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the > GPS display in front. I know the Garmin street pilot plays video and > wonder if I can get video to work in the Dodge > thanks Nobody has answered your question at all. It is very possible and has been done. There is a company that makes an auxiliary video input for the Chrysler REC Navigation unit. It's installation does require opening the unit and connecting a few wires. They will do it for you for a fee. Some have installed a backup camera that displays on the REC unit. I'll have to do some digging where I saw a complete review with installation pics on one of the other forums I read and post where to get this add-on kit. >> Got a Dodge MegaCab with built in GPS display. Has video in back for >> passengers, was wondering if anyone knows a way to get video on the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to do some digging where I saw a complete review with installation pics on > one of the other forums I read and post where to get this add-on kit. What are you talking about miles, I did answer the question to the best of my knowledge. However, following your statement, you didn't either, as you have not provided the OP any information about how to get the video signal from the rear screen/dvd player. Anyway, not to nit pick, there is no simple, this is how you do it answer to this. I have provided the best technical answer that I have avail from years of experience in that field. Each set up is different, there is no certainty that you will even have the same units in two similar vehicles as the vendor for the dvd/screen units may not be the same. OP, I am sorry if you think that anyone here has not tried to help, but simply put (again) what you are trying to do is not simple or straight forward and there is no "unplug wire A, plug in adaptor B, etc..." answer to this. > What are you talking about miles, I did answer the question to the best of > my knowledge. However, following your statement, you didn't either, as you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > forward and there is no "unplug wire A, plug in adaptor B, etc..." answer to > this. There is such a fairly simple solution albeit expensive. I have seen it done several times. The Mopar VES DVD unit has a video output that can be tapped with a simple RCA jack and 2 wires. You're right that models change over the years but the DVD unit in Dodge trucks and SUV's from 2004-2006 allows for the same mod. Here is the company that can adapt the REC unit for video input. http://www.tvandnav2go.com/ I'll dig some more about the VES unit video mod. Point is, it has been done and yes, there is instructions out there that do not require you to obtain and study schematics. > OP, I am sorry if you think that anyone here has not tried to help, but > simply put (again) what you are trying to do is not simple or straight > forward and there is no "unplug wire A, plug in adaptor B, etc..." answer to > this. More info on this mod that has been done by several including how to add video output from the VES DVD unit. I hope this answers the OP's original question. http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122185&highlight=ves+video Miles thanks so much for your help, this group is helpful on subjects and I appreciate it, It seems the whole thing got off on is it legal or not. I just wanted to know how to do it. I have worked in electronics for 20 years and just need some insight to do it. Why invent the wheel all over again, if someone has done it and can help. Again thanks so much >> OP, I am sorry if you think that anyone here has not tried to help, but >> simply put (again) what you are trying to do is not simple or straight [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122185&highlight=ves+video
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