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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2007

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Poor old Duramax!

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BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 00:10 GMT
Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

Roy - 12 Jan 2007 00:30 GMT
> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>
> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

Pretty sad.
Chris Thompson - 12 Jan 2007 02:33 GMT
>> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>>
>> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

>
> Pretty sad.

That my friend is why i bought a Cummins!!!!!!

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05 CTD
06 Liberty CRD

Real Trucks don't NEED spark plugs.

Ed H. - 12 Jan 2007 01:48 GMT
I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
enters "leap home mode?"  Obviously Dodge is the superior product, but what
kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck?  Also, the idiot should
get out of the left hand lane if he can't keep up with traffic!

Thanks for the post, I was considering a Duramax for a while.

> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>
> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm
GeekBoy - 12 Jan 2007 02:58 GMT
>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
>repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thanks for the post, I was considering a Duramax for a while.

It might has helped if he had the UHaul truck facing to the front without
all the wind resistance.

>> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>>
>> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm
Roy - 12 Jan 2007 03:11 GMT
>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
>>repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It might has helped if he had the UHaul truck facing to the front without
> all the wind resistance.

Pehaps, but it was probably loaded that way to put the weight on the trailer
wheels.
GeekBoy - 12 Jan 2007 03:19 GMT
>>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
>>>repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Pehaps, but it was probably loaded that way to put the weight on the
> trailer wheels.

He made a claim that he was totaling nearly 23k in weight.
Is that correct?  My Dodge vehicle manual shows about 20k max.
BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 03:55 GMT
>>>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if
>>>>you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> He made a claim that he was totaling nearly 23k in weight.
> Is that correct?  My Dodge vehicle manual shows about 20k max.

I think so.  He said during the video he was 300 lbs. under max weight
rating?  I think Ford is claiming close to or over 25,000 with their "tow
boss" package?  My '96 3500 club cab automatic 4x4 3.54 gears was max
trailer rated at 9,700 lbs.  My '01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears
is rated at 14,300.
Ed H. - 12 Jan 2007 05:22 GMT
The first time I watched it I missed the part about 300 lbs under the GCWR
(I was getting bored with the idiot).  Maybe it just demonstrates that if
one tows near the maximum capicity of one's truck one shouldn't keep the
accelerator floored - especially going up hill.  I too liked that the AC
stopped working (is 91 degrees hot?) and there was an audible warning about
the coolant temperature.

I searched for Keystone Cougar 5th wheel campers and found that they can go
from 5740-8500 lbs dry weight up to 12,300 lbs fully loaded. If my memory
serves, that jeep weighs about 3500 lbs.  Therefore, the Dodge was towing
between 9200 and 15,800 lbs.  Pretty impressive if the hills were as steep
as the guy suggests.

>>>>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if
>>>>>you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> trailer rated at 9,700 lbs.  My '01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears
> is rated at 14,300.
GeekBoy - 12 Jan 2007 19:04 GMT
>>>>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if
>>>>>you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> trailer rated at 9,700 lbs.  My '01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears
> is rated at 14,300.

I just looked on the Ford site. It is listing 26,000 with an outrageous 4.30
rear axle ratio, but the trailer max weights are still nearly the same as my
2000 Dodge. Except Dodge then listed trailer at 16k not 15k as Ford. So it
seems their marketing is not all that truthful. They call it "Tow Boss," but
tow capacities are the same even without that package only the GCVW is
greater.
GeekBoy - 12 Jan 2007 19:07 GMT
>>>>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if
>>>>>you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> trailer rated at 9,700 lbs.  My '01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears
> is rated at 14,300.

I take that back..I was not looking at Fifth Wheel.

It jumps to19,200 whith a 350 with the Tow Boss with Fifth Wheel..I was
looking at conventional towing.
BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 03:50 GMT
>>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
>>repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It might has helped if he had the UHaul truck facing to the front without
> all the wind resistance.

If you know what the 1920's vehicles looked like, they're a bit similar in
profile to the U-Haul box truck he was pulling.  Studies showed they were
MORE aerodynamic in reverse!  Seems counter intuitive?  Anyway, that led to
the Chryler AirFlow and Desoto AirStream.  Two awful looking cars with good
aerodynamics and awful sales.
BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 03:45 GMT
We think alike.  If I caught him driving my truck that way he'd be
seriously injured.  I've pushed my equipment pretty doggone hard but that
240 ~ 260 degree stuff was just abuse.  It's not illegal to slow down and
downshift to cool it off.  You don't HAVE to run with the big dogs all day.
I was impressed with the computer management system protecting the truck
from stupidity.  Cutting the A/C off on him was pretty amusing.

I've also had thoughts about a Duramax.  360 hp and 650 ft/lbs is pretty
darn sweet with a six speed Alison.  I went looking around a little, as near
as I could determine, running hot is common, overheating much less common.
But let's put this in perspective.  Medium duty trucks are pretty well
limited to 300 hp unless it's to be an RV hauler or fire truck, then it's
350 hp.  The 300 hp medium duty trucks come with 860 to 1000 sq. inch
radiators.  How do you get that capacity in a pick up?  And the weight
ratings (tow) are into the medium duty categories as well.  I smell
marketing hype.

I wonder how well the new Ford 6.4 is going to do?  I hear there's stacks
and stacks of turbos at the Ford dealers due to the vanes seizing up.  I
heard NO idling and don't let it sit for 2 weeks or more?  That's all I've
heard and only from one source.

>I wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against GM - if you
>repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a Dodge CTD it
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm
Bryan - 12 Jan 2007 02:46 GMT
>  Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm


It was interesting to note (as his D-max fell behind and ran hotter) the
driver's declining opinion of the D-max... and his increasing regard for the
CTD!
D'ya think (whether or not he gets any settlement out of his suit), he'll
dump the D-max and buy a CTD?
Bryan ;-)
BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 03:58 GMT
>>  Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> dump the D-max and buy a CTD?
> Bryan ;-)

I don't think he's going to get a thing except experience.
Nosey - 12 Jan 2007 04:33 GMT
> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge /
> Cummins
> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

I like my "old 24 valve Dodge". I just sent this to a friend that tows a
camper and horses with a D-max. I wonder what she'll have to say about it.
Signature

Ken

BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 12:35 GMT
>> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge /
>> Cummins
>> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

>
> I like my "old 24 valve Dodge". I just sent this to a friend that tows a
> camper and horses with a D-max. I wonder what she'll have to say about it.

You sent that to a D-max owner?!  Cool, send her this one too!

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/dodge+2500/0/3c5e0a72-7e12-4322-b38b-57d0f20
f787b.htm

Nosey - 12 Jan 2007 14:14 GMT
>>> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge /
>>> Cummins
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/dodge+2500/0/3c5e0a72-7e12-4322-b38b-57d0f20
f787b.htm

Same tug, different video can be found here:
http://www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com/cafcna/index.php/topic,50912.0.html
It's a Chevy forum. It's kind of funny how those guys thought the Chevy won.
Until JimDDD sets them straight. Reputable source? I think so.
Signature

Ken

Roy - 12 Jan 2007 14:56 GMT
>>>> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge /
>>>> Cummins
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> It's a Chevy forum. It's kind of funny how those guys thought the Chevy
> won. Until JimDDD sets them straight. Reputable source? I think so.

A real reputable source, thanks for the link.

Roy
BigIronRam - 12 Jan 2007 20:24 GMT
> Check out the Duramax video!  Can't keep up with an old Dodge / Cummins
>
> http://videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af01
3f4333.htm

Thanks again to TDR posters I have a little more information, check it out:

http://www.coolmyduramax.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502
 
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