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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / February 2007

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el jr64 - 27 Jan 2007 03:28 GMT
Hi ll. My 98 Ram 1500 4X4-5.9, off an on has the check engine light
coming on. Took it to the auto parts store,and the code was- engine
misfire ,cylinder#5, I have changed the plugs and wires,and it did it
again this afternoon.            My question is, could the injector be
acting up? it did stumble a little,like it did before,and if it is the
injector ,can just one be replaced? Is it a easy job to do in the
driveway?                           Also I do use medium octane to high
octane gas, also used injector cleaner once when this started. Thanks
for any information,and for letting me post.  This is been a occurance
for about 3 months or so.      eljr64@webtv.net.
Tom Lawrence - 27 Jan 2007 18:33 GMT
> again this afternoon.            My question is, could the injector be
> acting up? it did stumble a little,like it did before,and if it is the
> injector ,can just one be replaced? Is it a easy job to do in the
> driveway?

It's possible the injector could be clogged or malfunctioning, and that
would certainly cause a mis-fire.  Yes, they can be replaced pretty easily,
and you can replace just one.  To do so, you'll first need to remove the
pressure from the fuel rail - either through the test port (middle on
driver's side) if so equipped, or simply pull the fuel pump fuse and run the
engine until it dies.  Remove the electrical connector from the desired
injector, then unbolt the driver's side fuel rail from the manifold (couple
of bolts hold it down), and gently rock it to free the injectors from the
manifold (they're just pressed in with O-rings around them).  Don't lift too
much, because the electrical connectors on the other injectors are still
attached.  If they don't provide enough slack, disconnect them as well.
Remove the clip that's holding the injector to the rail, and remove the
injector.  Put the new one in (lube the O-rings with a little petroleum
jelly, so they don't tear - lube the O-rings on the other injectors, as
well), re-install the clip, seat the rail back into the manifold, bolt it
back down, plug everything back in, and you're all set.

Before buying a new injector, you could simply swap say #1 and #5. and see
if the misfire moves to the #1 cylinder.  If it does, you know you've got a
bad injector.  If not, you're not out the $$$ for a new injector, and know
you need to look elsewhere (like a compression test and/or leakdown test).
el jr64 - 28 Jan 2007 02:38 GMT
Thanks for the information,will give it a try.
Nosey - 28 Jan 2007 21:27 GMT
>> again this afternoon.            My question is, could the injector
>> be acting up? it did stumble a little,like it did before,and if it
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> It's possible the injector could be clogged or malfunctioning, and
> that would certainly cause a mis-fire.

If it is the injector would the computer know it was misfiring on #5?
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Tom Lawrence - 29 Jan 2007 00:12 GMT
> If it is the injector would the computer know it was misfiring on #5?

Sure - just as it would know #5 was misfiring due to lack of spark, or lack
of compression.  The PCM won't know WHY the cylinder is misfiring, just that
it is.  It does this by sensing a slight loss, then increase, in crankshaft
RPM via the crank position sensor.
Nosey - 29 Jan 2007 13:06 GMT
>> If it is the injector would the computer know it was misfiring on #5?
>
> Sure - just as it would know #5 was misfiring due to lack of spark,
> or lack of compression.  The PCM won't know WHY the cylinder is
> misfiring, just that it is.  It does this by sensing a slight loss,
> then increase, in crankshaft RPM via the crank position sensor.

That makes sense. For some reason I thought it would only read a misfiring
plug. Thanks.
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John_F - 04 Feb 2007 02:10 GMT
Changing the spark plugs will most likely fix the problem short term.
The real fix is rerouting the spark plug wires per a Chrysler service
bulletin on cross firing. Don't remember the SB number. This is what I
did to fix my sister's 98 Dodge 1500 with a 5.2L engine that had this
code.  It has worked for over 100,00 miles now.
John

>Hi ll. My 98 Ram 1500 4X4-5.9, off an on has the check engine light
>coming on. Took it to the auto parts store,and the code was- engine
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>for any information,and for letting me post.  This is been a occurance
>for about 3 months or so.      eljr64@webtv.net.
 
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