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Practical way to weigh a trailer

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Ignoramus18738 - 11 Feb 2007 17:46 GMT
I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?

i
Roy - 11 Feb 2007 17:56 GMT
>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?

Two bathroom scales.

> i
.boB - 11 Feb 2007 18:11 GMT
>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> Two bathroom scales.
>
>>i

   Actually, you would need three:  each wheel and the
tongue.  When I weigh my car, I use a scale under each
wheel, and add them all up for a total weight.
   You might also try a moving company.  They often
have large scales for weighing vehicles.  ALthough they
might be using the same scales as the truck stop.
   Drive on with truck and trailer and check weight.
Remove trailer, weigh truck alone.

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2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

Ignoramus18738 - 11 Feb 2007 20:05 GMT
>>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>>my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>     Drive on with truck and trailer and check weight.
> Remove trailer, weigh truck alone.

I do not know if the bathroom scale comment was meant to be humorous,
but my trailer weighs, according to my projections and estimates,
1,500-1,700 lbs.

i
.boB - 11 Feb 2007 23:06 GMT
> I do not know if the bathroom scale comment was meant to be humorous,
> but my trailer weighs, according to my projections and estimates,
> 1,500-1,700 lbs.
>
> i

Not at all.  When I weigh my Cobra to set corner and
cross weights, I use 4 bathroom scales and 4 fulcrums.
 Not as easy as fancy racing scales, but they sure are
a whole lot cheaper.

I was thinking it was a small lightweight trailer,
since a truck scale couldn't do it.  But 1,500# is a
lot of weight (for an empty trailer).

If you just want to know how much the trailer weighs,
I would weigh truck and trailer together, then remove
the trailer and weigh the truck alone.

If you want to know how the trailer is balanced, where
the center is, etc, you'll need individual scales.

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1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
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miles - 11 Feb 2007 18:28 GMT
>> I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> Two bathroom scales.

Even my small Hybrid trailer weighs about 5,000lbs loaded.  I do not
know very many bathroom scales rated to 1666lbs each.
Roy - 11 Feb 2007 18:38 GMT
>>> I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Even my small Hybrid trailer weighs about 5,000lbs loaded.  I do not know
> very many bathroom scales rated to 1666lbs each.

They are at Denny's house.<VBG>
Chris Thompson - 11 Feb 2007 18:59 GMT
if he's got a small utility trailer 3 300lb bathroom scales could do the
job.  we don't know what size trailer he's trying to weigh. but since its so
light that it wont show on a truck scale I would guess that its a small
utility trailer or 4 wheeler trailer something of that sort.

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>>> I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Even my small Hybrid trailer weighs about 5,000lbs loaded.  I do not know
> very many bathroom scales rated to 1666lbs each.
Ignoramus18738 - 11 Feb 2007 20:06 GMT
> if he's got a small utility trailer 3 300lb bathroom scales could do the
> job.  we don't know what size trailer he's trying to weigh. but since its so
> light that it wont show on a truck scale I would guess that its a small
> utility trailer or 4 wheeler trailer something of that sort.

My guess is that it is about 1,700 lbs. I want to know for sure how
much it weighs.

i
Stormin Mormon - 12 Feb 2007 02:42 GMT
I've had people suggest I buy one for myself.

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: Even my small Hybrid trailer weighs about 5,000lbs loaded.  I do not
: know very many bathroom scales rated to 1666lbs each.
SnoMan - 11 Feb 2007 20:09 GMT
>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
>Two bathroom scales.
>
>> i

If you want a real answer to your problem ask me not this guy as he is
just a troll. There is a simple solution. Go the any farmers
grainer/mill that accepts grain. They will have scalles that can
easily weight it. I have one near here that can weigh anything from a
few hunderd pounds to 100,000 lbs and it is rated plus or minus 20
pounds around 4K. I use it to weigh vehicles and front and rear axle
weights. Truck stop scales are generaly not as flexible.
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Roy - 11 Feb 2007 20:43 GMT
>>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> pounds around 4K. I use it to weigh vehicles and front and rear axle
> weights. Truck stop scales are generaly not as flexible.

It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.

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> TheWrongAnswetMan.com
SnoMan - 11 Feb 2007 22:26 GMT
>It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.

You are a riot! You can keep you head in the sand if you want as the
choice is yours.
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TheSnoMan.com
aarcuda69062 - 11 Feb 2007 22:34 GMT
> >It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.
>
> You are a riot! You can keep you head in the sand if you want as the
> choice is yours.
> -----------------
> TheSnojobMan.com

Oh look, the emperor has new clothes!
Roy - 11 Feb 2007 23:26 GMT
>>It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.
>
> You are a riot!

At times I can be quite funny, thank you.

>You can keep you head in the sand if you want as the

And you may keep your's where it has been for some time. Totally stuck in
your a.s.

> choice is yours.

Yours has been stuck there so long it is doubtful you know how to remove it.

> -----------------
> TheBSAnswerMan.com
Heatwave - 12 Feb 2007 01:20 GMT
> >>It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.
> >
> > You are a riot!

We laugh "with" Roy but we laugh "at" you Snoball. The sooner this sinks
into that thick head of yours the better.

> At times I can be quite funny, thank you.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Yours has been stuck there so long it is doubtful you know how to remove it.

Man I seriously do not know why this guy keeps posting... To say he was
dense would be an understatement. I think along with posting corrections
to his dribble we should include links to his other "masterpieces". This
may keep him from anymore vain attempts at distorting the facts as I
think he forgets everything he says gets archived.

Sno on brakes:
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
aarcuda69062 - 12 Feb 2007 01:57 GMT
> > >>It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Sno on brakes:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo

One of the best examples of when someone is stupid to the
sub-atomic level and as such, doesn't and never will understand
how stupid they are.
Roy - 12 Feb 2007 12:33 GMT
>> >>It is okay Idiot, you have no credibility here at this group.
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> may keep him from anymore vain attempts at distorting the facts as I
> think he forgets everything he says gets archived.

That sounds like a real good idea. At least it would point out what we have
been talking about.

Roy
> Sno on brakes:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
Roy - 11 Feb 2007 20:38 GMT
>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> Two bathroom scales.
>
>> i

Ya know when I answered this in jest I figured anybody would weigh the
combined and then reweigh the truck. Guess I was way wrong.
Ignoramus18738 - 12 Feb 2007 00:57 GMT
>>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Ya know when I answered this in jest I figured anybody would weigh the
> combined and then reweigh the truck. Guess I was way wrong.

I doubt if I could get an accurate answer this way.

.
Bryan - 11 Feb 2007 18:56 GMT
> I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> i

Others have suggested using bathroom scales.  However, weighing wheel weight
directly with a bathroom scale may be problematic, depending on the capacity
of the scale and the weight of the trailer.  As an example, my all-steel
tandem-axle car trailer weighs approximately 1500 pounds, with most of that
weight on the axles.  For the sake of discussion, we can discount the tongue
weight as being nearly zero, relative to the axle weight.  That puts 750#
per side on each side of the trailer, divided between the front and rear
axles... about 375# per wheel.  Most bathroom scales don't go over about
300#.  With the equalizers between the front and rear axles, I can't just
weigh at one wheel -- I have to weigh both wheels (on one side) at the same
time.

How to do it?  Archimedes (and his lever) to the rescue!  Use your bathroom
scale with strong piece(s) of lumber and a fulcrum.  Place a fulcrum at one
end of the lumber and your scale at the other end (see images here:
http://tinyurl.com/38ukya and here: http://tinyurl.com/2vaffv).

Note the scale reading (or zero the scale if it has that capability).  Place
the trailer tire on top of the lumber 1/3 of the distance between the center
of the fulcrum and scale.  Your scale reading is now one half of the true
weight.  If you have a tandem-axle trailer, you will have to use a second
piece of lumber, in order to support both tires at the same time.  Still too
much weight for the scale?  Place the tire(s) closer to the fulcrum -- the
scaling factor is the ratio of the distances between the tire(s) and the two
other points.  The longer the board, the easier it is to adjust the ratio.
Of course, you'll need to choose a wood beam that can handle the weight w/o
breaking.

Bryan
Mike Simmons - 11 Feb 2007 20:07 GMT
>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> i

Weigh the truck and trailer as a combo and then weigh the truck only.
Subtract one from the other and voila!

Mike
SnoMan - 11 Feb 2007 22:29 GMT
>Weigh the truck and trailer as a combo and then weigh the truck only.
>Subtract one from the other and voila!

This will work but if you want to measure axle load on trailer, you
need to weigh trailer axle only with it hitched up or with tongue on a
stand off of scale with axle still on it. (I do this A LOT)  
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aarcuda69062 - 11 Feb 2007 22:37 GMT
> >Weigh the truck and trailer as a combo and then weigh the truck only.
> >Subtract one from the other and voila!
>
> This will work but if you want to measure axle load on trailer,

He did not indicate that he did.

> you
> need to weigh trailer axle only with it hitched up or with tongue on a
> stand off of scale with axle still on it. (I do this A LOT)  

Another answer to an unasked question.
<rolls eyes>

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> TheSnojobMan.com
Chris Thompson - 11 Feb 2007 22:52 GMT
text from first post

I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?

I

his reply to my comment on not knowing the size of the trailer.

My guess is that it is about 1,700 lbs. I want to know for sure how
much it weighs.

I

now with these two pieces of information I have some honest info to suggest
on....all kidding aside if your local truck stop's scale cant determine a
diff of 1700 lbs in your rig (the truck and the trailer minus the trucks
weight is the weight of the trailer) then there is something seriously wrong
with the accuracy of their scale. I would try to find another scale, whether
its at another truck stop, scrap yard, shipping center, land fill (oh yea no
one's thought of this one have they?) or where ever. if a truck scale cant
tell the diff in nearly 2,000 lbs then I question the scale and/or the
operator of their accuracy.

now also if I may ask. are you wanting to know the weight of the trailer for
your own curiosity or because of loading considerations? what kind of
trailer did you build? (to satisfy my own curiosity at this point)

I hope that is of some actual help.

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Ignoramus18738 - 12 Feb 2007 00:56 GMT
> now with these two pieces of information I have some honest info to suggest
> on....all kidding aside if your local truck stop's scale cant determine a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> tell the diff in nearly 2,000 lbs then I question the scale and/or the
> operator of their accuracy.

I also wondered about it, but,. life is what it is and truck scales
are not what will give me an accurate answer.

> now also if I may ask. are you wanting to know the weight of the trailer for
> your own curiosity or because of loading considerations? what kind of
> trailer did you build? (to satisfy my own curiosity at this point)
>
> I hope that is of some actual help.

I have a big page with a lot of pictures about how I built this
trailer:

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Homemade-Trailer-With-M105A2-Bed/

It uses a bed from a military trailer M105A2. It is a super sturdy and
strong, but relatively small trailer.

I want to know its weight due to loading considerations.

i
azwiley1 - 11 Feb 2007 22:55 GMT
>> >Weigh the truck and trailer as a combo and then weigh the truck only.
>> >Subtract one from the other and voila!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> need to weigh trailer axle only with it hitched up or with tongue on a
>> stand off of scale with axle still on it. (I do this A LOT)

You also type a lot with constant spelling errors, gramatical errors, spout
off a lot of B.S. and hardly ever, if ever answer a question that is posted.
Questions such as "Where is the knock sensor on the Dodge V-1?" or like my
question I posted in the Chevy group about replacing my cats.  Instead of
answering it, or ignoring it, you attempted to "educate me" on them.
Greg O - 11 Feb 2007 20:26 GMT
>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> i

Check with the guys that haul your scrap. The local yard has a very accurate
truck scale. It accurately weighs my 195 pounds!
Greg
Ignoramus18738 - 12 Feb 2007 00:57 GMT
>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Check with the guys that haul your scrap. The local yard has a very accurate
> truck scale. It accurately weighs my 195 pounds!

Good idea. Thanks.

i
Wolfie - 12 Feb 2007 00:04 GMT
On Feb 11, 9:46 am, Ignoramus18738 <ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.
18738.invalid> wrote:
> I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
> my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
>
> i

The truck scales around here can weigh the difference between a full
tank and half-full when I roll across on my bike.  If you don't have
any locally try an aggregate yard; their scales are precise to the
pound or better.

Wolfie
beekeep - 12 Feb 2007 11:17 GMT
>On Feb 11, 9:46 am, Ignoramus18738 <ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.
>18738.invalid> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Wolfie

Or any concrete batching plant.

beekeep
Stormin Mormon - 12 Feb 2007 02:41 GMT
Scrap yard, or recycling center. The one near me has a scale
which reads in 20 pound increments. Drive on. Detach trailer.
Drive on again. Subtract.

You went to a truck stop and couldn't get weighed? That's
pathetic, man!

(Anyone remember the "want to get weighed" joke? I'll tell it, if
you ask.)

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 You have to starve them.
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: I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
: my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
:
: i
Ignoramus18738 - 12 Feb 2007 03:04 GMT
> Scrap yard, or recycling center. The one near me has a scale
> which reads in 20 pound increments. Drive on. Detach trailer.
> Drive on again. Subtract.
>
> You went to a truck stop and couldn't get weighed? That's
> pathetic, man!

Do you mean that I am pathetic, or the truck scale?

i

> (Anyone remember the "want to get weighed" joke? I'll tell it, if
> you ask.)
Stormin Mormon - 12 Feb 2007 12:55 GMT
Any man who goes to a truck stop and can't get weighed is doing
something wrong. You're pathetic.

If you know the joke, the above statement is funny. Happy to tell
the joke, if someone asks.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

: > Scrap yard, or recycling center. The one near me has a scale
: > which reads in 20 pound increments. Drive on. Detach trailer.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
: > (Anyone remember the "want to get weighed" joke? I'll tell it, if
: > you ask.)
Roy - 12 Feb 2007 13:59 GMT
> Any man who goes to a truck stop and can't get weighed is doing
> something wrong. You're pathetic.
>
> If you know the joke, the above statement is funny. Happy to tell
> the joke, if someone asks.

Speech impediment? <G>
Stormin Mormon - 12 Feb 2007 15:22 GMT
A wittle more information, and they'll have the whole joke.

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 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

: > Any man who goes to a truck stop and can't get weighed is doing
: > something wrong. You're pathetic.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
:
: Speech impediment? <G>
Electrician - 13 Feb 2007 00:21 GMT
>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?

This thread is unbelievable as to how much conversation it has generated. To
weigh a trailer you do what has been done for the last 50 years - you go to a
truck stop, weigh the truck and trailer together, unhook the trailer and
then weigh just the truck. With just the trailer on the scale and the
truck off the scale gives you trailer axle weight.
Wolfie - 13 Feb 2007 01:40 GMT
> In article <C9OdnXeg4LfCy1LYnZ2dnUVZ_tXin...@giganews.com>,
> ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.18738.invalid says...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> then weigh just the truck. With just the trailer on the scale and the
> truck off the scale gives you trailer axle weight.

"This thread is unbelievable as to how much conversation it has
generated."

And yet..." To weigh a trailer..."

LOL!

Wolfie
azwiley1 - 13 Feb 2007 02:11 GMT
>> In article <C9OdnXeg4LfCy1LYnZ2dnUVZ_tXin...@giganews.com>,
>> ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.18738.invalid says...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> "This thread is unbelievable as to how much conversation it has
> generated."

Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but it will
get worse.

> And yet..." To weigh a trailer..."
>
> LOL!
>
> Wolfie
miles - 13 Feb 2007 02:19 GMT
> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but it will
> get worse.

It used to be that 20% of the time it would get worse.  Now it's 30% of
the time that things get worse.  Thats a 50% increase.
azwiley1 - 13 Feb 2007 02:34 GMT
>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but it
>> will get worse.
>
> It used to be that 20% of the time it would get worse.  Now it's 30% of
> the time that things get worse.  Thats a 50% increase.

Maybe so, but the amount of horsepower that has been gained is unreal!
Nosey - 13 Feb 2007 14:32 GMT
>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but
>> it will get worse.
>
> It used to be that 20% of the time it would get worse.  Now it's 30%
> of the time that things get worse.  Thats a 50% increase.

It's only a 10% *increase*, but that 10% increase /is/ 50% *more*.
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azwiley1 - 13 Feb 2007 19:27 GMT
> >> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but
> >> it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> Ken

It is not, your math is convoluted! <BG>
Besides, it's a K&N and they siad it was worth 15 more hp with it's
use, so it has to be correct!
Nosey - 15 Feb 2007 00:07 GMT
>>>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but
>>>> it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Besides, it's a K&N and they siad it was worth 15 more hp with it's
> use, so it has to be correct!

Oh, yeah? My NAPA 2790 BHAF filters better and flows more than any K&N.
Click torque wrenches are the best. Put your tailgate UP for best fuel
mileage. Amsoil. 85,000 trouble free miles on the factory lift pump and
47RE. So THERE!
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Roy - 15 Feb 2007 00:40 GMT
>>>>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better but
>>>>> it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> mileage. Amsoil. 85,000 trouble free miles on the factory lift pump and
> 47RE. So THERE!

Ken, ya can't win with Larry. I converted him to Buddism. So he's correct
all the time, never wrong.
<BFG>

Roy
> Ken
Nosey - 15 Feb 2007 02:51 GMT
>>>>>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better
>>>>>> but it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> correct all the time, never wrong.
> <BFG>

Dear *G*reat *B*uddist *F*ounding *G*rand-master Roy, I have but one
question about Buddism.
If a Buddist /claims/ to be wrong, is he right?
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Roy - 15 Feb 2007 03:32 GMT
>>>>>>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better
>>>>>>> but it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> question about Buddism.
> If a Buddist /claims/ to be wrong, is he right?

That will never happen. As you should know by now, one who practice's
Buddism can never be wrong. Thus that claim would be impossible.
<VBG>

Roy
> Ken
TBone - 15 Feb 2007 03:59 GMT
> >>>>>>> Stick around if you can handle it.  Not only will it get better
> >>>>>>> but it will get worse.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Buddism can never be wrong. Thus that claim would be impossible.
> <VBG>

Good answer

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Mike Simmons - 13 Feb 2007 01:47 GMT
>>I made a trailer and want to get it weighed. Went to a truck stop, but
>>my trailer was too light for their scales. Any other suggestions?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> then weigh just the truck. With just the trailer on the scale and the
> truck off the scale gives you trailer axle weight.

I think that was my suggestion early on.  Sometimes in this group we
generate more heat than light.

:^)

Mike
 
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