I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
GeekBoy - 08 Mar 2007 16:02 GMT
>I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
Chris Thompson - 08 Mar 2007 16:41 GMT
>>I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
>> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
>> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
>> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
>
> I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
check the emissions label on the hood it should say 5.9L displacement or
5.2L displacement depending on witch you have.
Tom Lawrence - 08 Mar 2007 17:32 GMT
> I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
Yes, in the RT model, beginning in '98
GeekBoy - 08 Mar 2007 18:03 GMT
>> I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
>
> Yes, in the RT model, beginning in '98
Thanks for the clarification.
I had considered buying one around the time. Seemed you got a more featured
truck at a lower price compared to the Ram.
Then I got in the truck and drove it and realized you could get a car with
the same power, but larger size for a price a lot less.
The Reverend Natural Light - 08 Mar 2007 17:51 GMT
They did. I have one.
-rev
> I don't think Dodge put a 5.9 in a Dakota.
ssuckler@googlemail.com - 08 Mar 2007 18:00 GMT
On Mar 8, 7:53 am, ssuck...@googlemail.com wrote:
> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
Mine is a 4x4 Club Cab. This wouldn't be an R/T so you think it's
most likely a 5.2L?
John Kunkel - 08 Mar 2007 20:04 GMT
>I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
In '98 the 5.9L was only available in the Dakota R/T and was a midyear
addition.
VIN is incorrect? What makes you think so?
ssuckler@googlemail.com - 08 Mar 2007 20:39 GMT
.
> VIN is incorrect? What makes you think so?
Because the VIN says the truck is a 2000 w/ 4.7L. It's definitely not
a 4.7L. The engine is cast with date of 3/98 and the suspension is
for a 98 truck (pitman arm whereas 2000 has rack and pinion). I took
the truck to the dealer, they looked up the VIN and said that the
truck should be a 2WD with an automatic transmission, but this one is
a 4WD with 5-speed manual.
So, basically, this is a 1998 truck with a VIN from another vehicle.
I'm not sure why or how, but someone along the line swapped the VIN
plate. That's my sad story of getting screwed by a crooked dealer. I
tried to get an attorney to sue the guy but no one will take the case
because they feel they'll never get paid and I can't afford to pay a
lawyer up front. So I guess I'm stuck with the truck.
GeekBoy - 08 Mar 2007 21:09 GMT
> .
>>
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> because they feel they'll never get paid and I can't afford to pay a
> lawyer up front. So I guess I'm stuck with the truck.
District attoney office can help. People have gone to prison over swapping
VINs and misleading people.
philthy - 10 Mar 2007 14:09 GMT
not if it started life with a salvage title
> > .
> >>
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> District attoney office can help. People have gone to prison over swapping
> VINs and misleading people.
GeekBoy - 14 Mar 2007 18:29 GMT
> not if it started life with a salvage title
Even salvage. You just can't go VIN swapping.
If it needs a new VIN then you have to get a new one from the motor vehicle
department.
>> > .
>> >>
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>> swapping
>> VINs and misleading people.
Dll - 08 Mar 2007 21:31 GMT
<ssuckler@googlemail.com>
> Because the VIN says the truck is a 2000 w/ 4.7L. It's definitely not
> a 4.7L. The engine is cast with date of 3/98 and the suspension is
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> because they feel they'll never get paid and I can't afford to pay a
> lawyer up front. So I guess I'm stuck with the truck.
Interesting chop shop story. Sounds like the 1998 truck was rolled or
something and they took the cab from 2000 truck?
Yeah, I think a DA would take that case. Can't hurt to call their office.
Maybe they say no interest, but it won't cost you anything to find out.
f.cking with VINs is highly illegal. At the least, I would see to it that
they lost their dealer license in the state. It's pretty certain they
would.
Or small claims court. Limits vary, maybe up to 10-15k. Can't imagine
you'd loose with such clear and obvious evidence - get statement from
dealer.
None of this should cost you anything other than your time. ...
-D
maxpower - 08 Mar 2007 20:34 GMT
> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
What does the under hood sticker show? it can come as a 5.2 or a 5.9 ( the
emissions label)
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
GeekBoy - 08 Mar 2007 21:10 GMT
>> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
>> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What does the under hood sticker show? it can come as a 5.2 or a 5.9 ( the
> emissions label)
He mentioned in another post that the VIN had been swapped by someone else.
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech
maxpower - 08 Mar 2007 23:45 GMT
> >> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> >> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
The vin and the underhood Emission label are 2 different items. I still see
no mention of the underhood label being gone
GeekBoy - 09 Mar 2007 02:13 GMT
>> >> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
>> >> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> see
> no mention of the underhood label being gone
He mentioned that also. A 2000 decal put on his 98 vehicle..
Clearly fraud.
maxpower - 09 Mar 2007 18:58 GMT
> >> >> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> >> >> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Clearly fraud.
Wow I must be going blind, I missed it twice
beekeep - 10 Mar 2007 17:09 GMT
>> >> >> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
>> >> >> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
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>>
>Wow I must be going blind, I missed it twice
Hearing goes next! 8>)
beekeep
maxpower - 10 Mar 2007 17:51 GMT
> >> >> >> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> >> >> >> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> beekeep
That went before eyesight
beekeep - 10 Mar 2007 22:07 GMT
>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:58:10 -0500, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
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>>
>That went before eyesight
Other things begin to go to. My buddy used to stand and watch me shave, now he
likes to hang and watch me shine my shoes!
beekeep
maxpower - 11 Mar 2007 04:07 GMT
> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:58:10 -0500, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> beekeep
naaa im not that old, my buddy still watches me shave, sometimes even tries
to help
ssuckler@googlemail.com - 08 Mar 2007 22:17 GMT
> What does the under hood sticker show? it can come as a 5.2 or a 5.9 ( the
> emissions label)
Whoever did this, put a hood sticker from a 2000 which says the engine
is 4.7L. This was enough to fool the smog tech as I passed the smog
test here in California. The test was performed as if the truck was a
2000 4.7L rather than a 5.2L 1998.
I found out about this not being a 2000 when I was involved in an
accident. Repair parts were ordered based on the VIN and nothing
fit. After trial and error and looking in catalogs, the shop
determined (the front-end anyway) was a '98.
Steve - 08 Mar 2007 23:12 GMT
> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
The easiest way is to look at the harmonic balancer. The 5.2 is an
internally balanced engine so the balancer is perfectly circular. The
5.8 has an offset weight as a part of the balancer itself.
maxpower - 08 Mar 2007 23:50 GMT
> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
The engine size will be programmed into the PCM, connect a scan tool and
find out what it says.
Fat a.s Fred - 10 Mar 2007 00:18 GMT
>I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
>either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
>is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
>distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.
My '98 came with a 3.9, later modals have 5.0. Just curious, what
makes you think its a 5.2 or 5.9L?
Chris Thompson - 10 Mar 2007 03:54 GMT
> My '98 came with a 3.9, later modals have 5.0. Just curious, what
> makes you think its a 5.2 or 5.9L?
you think you have a 5.0 in a dakota, i think you need to go look again.
the 5.0 is a FORD engine. try a 5.2 (318cid)
NapalmHeart - 23 Mar 2007 18:32 GMT
>> My '98 came with a 3.9, later modals have 5.0. Just curious, what
>> makes you think its a 5.2 or 5.9L?
>
> you think you have a 5.0 in a dakota, i think you need to go look again.
>
> the 5.0 is a FORD engine. try a 5.2 (318cid)
Hey, he learned it from his chemistry teacher! ;+)>
philthy - 10 Mar 2007 14:06 GMT
it's stamped on the side of the engine block
> I have a 1998 Dodge Dakota but I do not know the engine size. It is
> either a 5.2L or 5.9L. The tag is missing from the door and the VIN
> is incorrect. It is NOT a 4.7L. Is there a tell-tale sign to
> distinguish between the 5.2L and 5.9L? They look very similar.