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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / March 2007

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GeekBoy - 19 Mar 2007 19:31 GMT
I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.

I did not want to leave it a some local shop and then later calling me
up saying it is ready,but they had to rebuild and that would be $4000

It started to not shift into overdrive after a stop at a light. I
pulled over and shut it down and started backup and it was working
fine till down shift then it would not go back up to overdrive again.
I pulled over again and tried going again. This time the trans would
not engage in any gear.

While Driving during this episode I noticed the trans temp was rather
low, < 140 degress which makes me think a lack of fluid flow.

Fluid is a bit high and it's nice and bright red.

I believe Tom had mentioned before with someone else that is had a
similar problem that it could be a "sticking valve body or a mis-
behaving governor pressure sensor"

GB
SnoMan - 19 Mar 2007 20:05 GMT
>I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.

I would have rented or bowwered a trailer and a truck to pull it with
before I would have paid 400 for that. I know prices very but you can
get a 9K capacity flatbed equiment hauler trailer for 50 a day here.
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theguy@whatever.net - 19 Mar 2007 20:24 GMT
>>I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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you're just a tad bit late iwth that advice.
Roy - 19 Mar 2007 20:57 GMT
>>>I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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> you're just a tad bit late iwth that advice.

He just can't STFU!
SnoMan - 19 Mar 2007 21:21 GMT
>He just can't STFU!

Ah it just would not be complete without a comment from one of the
peanut gallerys main trolls.
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Roy - 19 Mar 2007 22:45 GMT
>>He just can't STFU!
>
> Ah it just would not be complete without a comment from one of the
> peanut gallerys main trolls.

It would not be complete without some bullshit answer from you.

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GeekBoy - 19 Mar 2007 23:20 GMT
> >>He just can't STFU!
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Anyone else got any advice?
Jon - 20 Mar 2007 01:18 GMT
> > "SnoMan" <a...@snoman.com> wrote in message
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Nothing of that caliber -- but about the transmission...did you lose o/
d as in 4th gear or just lock-up, and when you were going nowhere, did
you hear any chatter (buzz/whine fluid pump noise) from the
transmission?

If you did indeed have restricted flow -- it very well might have been
the cooler in the radiator, or the check valve in the flexible line
just upstream.  Since my 46re failure 9 mo ago, I've seen that twice,
but both times were accompanied with heavy chatter from the
transmission, esp. in reverse (i.e. full line pressure)....all from
torque converter failure.

Someone else will have to determine whether or not a misbehaving GP
solenoid/sensor assy can leave you that stranded.

And FWIW, I figger 4 bills is just fine for a tow and a stinky "taxi"
ride.
GeekBoy - 20 Mar 2007 16:07 GMT
> > > "SnoMan" <a...@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> you hear any chatter (buzz/whine fluid pump noise) from the
> transmission?

The trans would not shift up. Later I lost 3rd then 2nd, then all.
No noise coming from it.

Though after I parked,I could hear a slight whine sound when reving
the engine.

Not very loud at all.

> If you did indeed have restricted flow -- it very well might have been
> the cooler in the radiator, or the check valve in the flexible line
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> Someone else will have to determine whether or not a misbehaving GP
> solenoid/sensor assy can leave you that stranded.

You know where these item are located and what they look like?
My cooler is actually near the trans mission in front of the fuel
tank.
It has a theromstat controlled fan attached to it.

> And FWIW, I figger 4 bills is just fine for a tow and a stinky "taxi"
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Jon - 20 Mar 2007 19:34 GMT
"> You know where these item are located and what they look like?
> My cooler is actually near the trans mission in front of the fuel
> tank.
> It has a theromstat controlled fan attached to it.
>"

I don't recall the specific year of your Dodge...but it's entirely
possible that your unit doesn't even have this "check valve", ...I
have 0 exp. on a late model 3/4HD or 1 ton.  FWIW, the "check" valve
on my '97 with dual coolers up front was located at the end of the
flex line that was crimped to the transmission line....there's a
threaded hydraulic hose connection there.  It looks just a little
longer than a regular hydraulic hose connection (housing the "check"
valve).  I think it was on the female side.

GP Solenoid/Sensor assy is screwed to the valve body behind the tranny
pan.  You need a few gaskets if they don't come with them (I think the
sensors attached horizontally [gasket 1] but you had to detach the
assy with a housing vertically [gasket 2] or vice versa....and of
course the pan filter/gasket).  Still waiting for someone with more
depth of knowledge to say whether the solenoid can bleed off that much
pressure (as in all) or not.  From all the research I did, it seemed
that the GP Solenoid/Sensor affected _how_ things were happening, not
_if_ they were...but there's a first time for everything.

Hope it helps at all, still waiting for resident trans specialist to
post.
SnoMan - 19 Mar 2007 21:20 GMT
>you're just a tad bit late iwth that advice.

I understand that it is just that one miight have thought of that
before they lined up a $400 wrecker tow.
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GeekBoy - 20 Mar 2007 16:09 GMT
> >you're just a tad bit late iwth that advice.
>
> I understand that it is just that one miight have thought of that
> before they lined up a $400 wrecker tow.
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You try finding a place open on Sunday afternoon.
GeekBoy - 19 Mar 2007 23:14 GMT
> >I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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It was Sunday, nothing available and friends had to work next day.
It's 4 hour drive for them then the return drive.
Roy - 20 Mar 2007 01:16 GMT
>> >I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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> It was Sunday, nothing available and friends had to work next day.
> It's 4 hour drive for them then the return drive.

Understandable, if I exhausted all options I'd do the same. I'm not leaving
anything 200 miles from home
GeekBoy - 20 Mar 2007 16:08 GMT
> >> >I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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> Understandable, if I exhausted all options I'd do the same. I'm not leaving
> anything 200 miles from home

Espcially when its in the middle of nowhere, and no telling when you
could return to get it. Guess I am going to get me a AAA membership.
$100 a year is cheaper than $400.
samstone@aol.com - 20 Mar 2007 17:24 GMT
>Espcially when its in the middle of nowhere, and no telling when you
>could return to get it. Guess I am going to get me a AAA membership.
>$100 a year is cheaper than $400.

100  times four years is $400 too , if you don't need towed in  more than
four years you are not being cheaper.  Insurance / risk -  life's a game.
Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. AAA is still in business after
years of the game. My guess is 'long term'  you'd be 'better off' paying
only when you need it , if all other things are equal like the age  of both
the driver and the vehicle and how the truck is  used. The younger the
driver the rougher the usage and the older vehicle would most  likey
be AAAs most unwanted customer.  The kicker here is : the younger
the driver is the more likely it is that they don't have the money to pay
for either  a newer  vehicle or even the insurance of AAA.

  But anyway back to your trans.
You said
>While Driving during this episode I noticed the trans temp was rather
>low, < 140 degress which makes me think a lack of fluid flow.
Wouldn't lack of flow make it hotter? I know very little about the workings
of a trans. but  in other things I'v e worked on when the flow goes low things
tend to get hot.
Bob M - 20 Mar 2007 18:34 GMT
>>I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
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Huh? In English please.
Roy - 20 Mar 2007 22:46 GMT
>>>I paid $400 to have it towed 200 miles back to my house.
>>
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> Huh? In English please.

Sadly, that's about as clear as it gets.
 
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