>> i run nothing but premium fuel in all four of my gas burners from my own
>> pump and still find it neccesary to clean the injection system about
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> heard people report higher carbon build up after switching to premium for
> awhile.
what people? the guys selling cheap gas or a mechanic that works on
vehicles every day? if they are switching back and forth from cheap gas to
premium how do they know which one is the culprit?
i had a truck that was giving me some trouble while it was still in warranty
so i kept taking it to the dealer. after about half a dozen trips they
couldn't find anything wrong so they said it was because i was buring
premium gas. i switched to mid grade and it got worse. a couple of months
of this and it slap quit running. i was so disgusted that i took it to a
real mechanic instead of the factory tech of the week. it had quit running
due to a nasty throttle body resulting from the cheaper gas. he also found
the original problem that the dealer missed which was a simple vacum leak.
the great gas debate will continue forever but i have taken enough motors
apart that i believe premium is better for the fuel delivery system than the
cheaper alternatives.
michael
miles - 06 Apr 2007 14:28 GMT
> if they are switching back and forth from cheap gas to
> premium how do they know which one is the culprit?
Drive a a few years on regular, then a year on premium. Some have
stated after doing so they had carbon build up issues. Had it cleaned
up then went back to regular and no problems since.
> due to a nasty throttle body resulting from the cheaper gas.
There is cheap gas and good gas whether its regular or premium. The
simple truth of the matter is that Premium does not mean better and
Regular does not mean worse. People seem to think Premium means
cleaner, better, etc. It means no such thing at all.
Mike - 06 Apr 2007 17:04 GMT
>>> i run nothing but premium fuel in all four of my gas burners from my own
>>> pump and still find it neccesary to clean the injection system about
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> vehicles every day? if they are switching back and forth from cheap gas
> to premium how do they know which one is the culprit?
Actually Chrysler. Chrysler has issued several TSB's that state using
premium gas in a vehicle that does not require premium can cause
driveability problems and will cause carbon build up in the engine.
> i had a truck that was giving me some trouble while it was still in
> warranty so i kept taking it to the dealer. after about half a dozen
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> had quit running due to a nasty throttle body resulting from the cheaper
> gas.
All throttle bodies on all vehicles need peiodic cleaning regardless of
what grade fuel is being used. I've seen a dirty throttle body cause a low
idle/ no idle condition but I have yet to see it cause a vehicle to quit
running completely.
he also found
> the original problem that the dealer missed which was a simple vacum leak.
>
> the great gas debate will continue forever but i have taken enough motors
> apart that i believe premium is better for the fuel delivery system than
> the cheaper alternatives.
All grades of gasoline sold in the US have to have detergents added to
control fuel system deposits. Some companies may add more than the required
amount but the EPA requires all gasoline sold to have at least the minimum
amount.
More info can be found here:
http://www.vecc-sepa.org.cn/eng/news/news_detail.jsp?newsid=e00344
> michael
Roger Rabbid - 19 Apr 2007 06:32 GMT
>>> i run nothing but premium fuel in all four of my gas burners from my own
>>> pump and still find it neccesary to clean the injection system about
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>due to a nasty throttle body resulting from the cheaper gas. he also found
>the original problem that the dealer missed which was a simple vacum leak.
the only thing that passes through a common day throttle body is
air... gas is delivered through the injectors which are located in the
intake runners. How does that relate the carbon problem to the
throttle body?